Water is stopped and released even on western rivers which are red line for pak, still the dams are standingAnother day gone. No attack from India. Disappointed
Pahalgam terror attack: 26 killed
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They aren't entering our airspace. The Pakistanis wi hide deep inside their own airspaces. The Pakistanis will just lob standoff munitions on ammo depots and civilian targets. There's no other strategy they have. The s400's won't really be required because they will use the j-10's as flanks and use the jf-17's and f-16's as baits to IAF aircraft. They cannot survive in our space.
DF21 may not have the same range as Agni-5, but its technology level is similar.
Not really sure why the count matters? Have you heard of the term āOverkillā ā you cannot really kill something that is already dead. In a nuclear exchange, the scenario will be MAD for all parties involved, what is needed is a capable delivery system which we have in active service. Your comparison of A5 and DF-21 kind of exposed your argument earlier. Good luck successfully intercepting MIRVs consisting of decoys etc, plus, it will be a saturation strike and no ADS in the world can handle that. Few are bound to get through and thatās sufficient. If you think China can come out unscathed- you are living in a delusional world of either ignorance or denial or both!
Letās elaborate on the tech aspect then, care to comment on which ātechā similarities exist between DF-21 and A5?
Don't think it will scale up to that point. Even PoJK is suspect. We may end with Haji Pir.
Swift Retort redux.
Lobbing PL15(E) from deep within their airspace will probably not get them kills, but can send our assets defensive. IAF needs to ensure that we are able to get our BVRMs off this time - get a firing solution and engage.
Cong taps other parties to demand special Parliament session on Pahalgam attack
Special Parliament Session on Pahalgam Attack: The Pahalgam attack left 26 people, mostly tourists, dead. A top source in the government had told The Indian Express that the govt is discussing a range of retaliatory options
indianexpress.com
Those exercises are meant to keep PLAAF away from their prying eyes. It gives us the excuse necessary to use EW.
I think we will start the same as usual, a ground operation or an air strike against terrorist hotbeds and allow Pak to escalate things on their own.
Could be - however, airstrike will probably have to be launched from within our airspace this time - there is zero element of surprise this time, so going deep doesnāt make a lot of sense strategically.
It's just a language issue. The operating interfaces of JF17 and J10C are exactly the same. Isn't Pakistan's J10CE using Urdu or English now?
Tomorrow, maybe a Chinese J10C will land in Pakistan from Iran or Afghanistan.
As for combat system, except for a few old F16s and Mirage 3s, all Pakistani aircraft are Chinese weapons, so there is no problem with combat system.
Why would Indians lie about it?
Nobody else is sitting around and arguing about whether we actually have thermonukes or not when we have SSBNs and ICBMs.
Thank you for the advise but our current plans are centered around how far we need to go, a limited war or a full-blown one with complete destruction of Pakistan.
Even if we face some serious losses, we have enough diplomatic capital to get away with it. The West needs India to deal with China, so financial assistance will also come in, necessary to rebuild parts of the cities destroyed.
You can try it, it's a unique delusion of Indians
We already know J-10 is integrated, but there's only 20 of those. If JF-17 B3 is integrated with it, that doubles the fleet by another 20-30.
But the real clincher is if PL-15 is integrated with AWACS, this would help older JF-17s carrier it too, all cued by AWACS. That would increase the number of JF-17s carrying the PL-15 and pose serious risks.
But if it's just 20+20/30 or the info is wrong and it's merely 20 J-10C, then the threat drops drastically.
Yes, missiles are not used at their longest ranges... Post 549
But it's difficult to use it at its most effective range too 'cause India's fighters have better support systems, like EW, at closer ranges. The JF-17 as a platform is insufficient.
The only war happening between India and Pakistan is at the PDF. If there's no "retaliation" by India come the end of this week then no conflict is happening.
won't range of missile matter when you are extrapolating 100% interception rates?
will single child chinese parents want to lose their blood line in a war in far away lands between different people, and if India really attacks Tibet why not nuke it then, than pre empting it by joining pakistan now? Your 731 IQ logic is all over the place, nor are you replying to me in the paf thread, where you confidently shared Indian hacked J-10C deal document as Pakistan itself released it
"Outdated"? No. I said, "Irrelevant." Another translation error. HQ-26 is meant for ships. Where is the sea between India and China?
The US came to India with THAAD, it was rejected.
Or that doesn't speak well for DF-21.
DF-21 has a max speed of mach 10 with a range below 2000 km. That's well within the threshold of India's capabilities.
Why would India want to get into a conventional war with China? Our demonstrable ability to fight back was the reason why China had to back out in the first place after Galwan.
We have no intention of fighting a nuclear war with China or Pakistan. But an Indo-Pak war can go nuclear, and that will automatically make China a target by association if China makes it a two-front war. I don't understand how you find this difficult to comprehend.
Due to the risk of India and Pakistan fighting a nuclear war, it's extremely unlikely that China will fight for Pakistan in such circumstances.
Plus China's BMD is insufficient, and India has thermonukes and IRBMs/ICBMs that can destroy Chinese cities.
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