Pahalgam terror attack: 26 killed

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Lots of excitement from Pakistan fanboys for pl 15 or pl 15E. But in case of a faceoff Pakistani tankers and SaaB awacs will face S400 and Multiple MRSAM deployment of Indian side. Indian will take them out first to make life difficult for PAF. Let see how PAF get out of this situation.
 
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PAF has swedish doctrine.
This was conceived in the cold war era.
The doctrine is based on power mismatch, and a smaller air force fighting a much larger and far more resourceful enemy.


So the Swedish Doctrine delusion is engraved in all pak defence personnel. One Pak army soldier Muslim Gazi is equal 10 Yindoo soldiers, so PAF fighter Plane is equal to 21 IAF fighter Planes. Good for IAF, come on bring in all your Ching Chong JF-17 fighters and destroy IAF completely... 😂😂
 
We need to be careful not to provoke a war because our military is not capable of fighting on two fronts at once. One being major ally of west and another China

Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Gulf.
These countries are always fond of Pakistan and are developing/ed. If we send some unknown gunmen there then some actual damage can be caused.
 
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Lol at the stupid Chinese thinking that India doesn't have thermonuclear tech when the truth is we've it from the mid 1970s. The low yield at Pokhran 2 was deliberate. An Agni 5 MK2 with 3 200KT warheads is good enough to send Beijing or Shanghai into stone age. Try hard @LX1111
Information about India's hydrogen bomb is that in the nuclear test in May 1998, India tested a two-stage thermonuclear device with an equivalent of 40,000 tons of TNT. The test site was located 200 meters underground and was code-named "White House". This is what I call India's largest nuclear test. However, Americans do not agree with this. Some believe that India may have tested an enhanced nuclear device with deuterium as the booster. And the equivalent is too small. India's nuclear test equivalent is mostly between several thousand tons and hundreds of thousands of tons of TNT, which belongs to nuclear fission or enhanced fission weapons (atomic bombs), not million-ton thermonuclear weapons (hydrogen bombs).
 
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So the Swedish Doctrine delusion is engraved in all pak defence personnel. One Pak army soldier Muslim Gazi is equal 10 Yindoo soldiers, so PAF fighter Plane is equal to 21 IAF fighter Planes. Good for IAF, come on bring in all your Ching Chong JF-17 fighters and destroy IAF completely... 😂😂

Actually PAF's weltanschauung, is even more delusional than their Army and Navy's, like in wars they lost PAF shifts the blame on other forces trying to maintain a facade of invincibilty, in Kargil they left Army mujhahijd high and dry to be bombed by IAF but sat it out🤣.
Even if true that PAF had more K/D ratio in air or what ever BS metric what they use, if you allow your Army and Navy to be blasted and the war is lost finally ex: 1971 where there are claims that PAF has not lost it, kek🤣. Though some of it comes to the US training (think Chuck Yeager) and machines provided which created and nurtured this belief within PAF and also general bombastic claims like only PAF can hold Israel Air Force, 10 kills under a second or some BS etc.

Generally overlooked in India but PAF v/s Soviet Airforce in Afghanistan is also major event in PAF's own ethos, where they took some Soviet bombers with their new F-16 in 1980s they even released a famous song in pakistan around that time
 
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We need to be careful not to provoke a war because our military is not capable of fighting on two fronts at once. One being major ally of west and another China

Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Gulf.
These countries are always fond of Pakistan and are developing/ed. If we send some unknown gunmen there then some actual damage can be caused.

None of the small countries matter .
Gulf needed for oil but not must, Russia & US will give us the oil.
However none of them will support to the level of going against India for the cause of sponsored terrorism.

We need to make sure terror attack a very tough option to exercise to stop further attacks.

They made overt terror attack to dissuade tourists to visit Kashmir.

We must disproportionately respond overtly to dissuade them from further attack and give the confidence to our public.

Hence the overt response is unavoidable.
 
We need to be careful not to provoke a war because our military is not capable of fighting on two fronts at once. One being major ally of west and another China

Malaysia, Indonesia, Bangladesh, Gulf.
These countries are always fond of Pakistan and are developing/ed. If we send some unknown gunmen there then some actual damage can be caused.

This is the kind of mindset that has been our bane for so long. 28 innocents were SHOT-IN-THE-HEAD in front of their family.

This is not the time for unknown gunmen. It’s time to look into their eyes and and shooting them between their eyes!

It is now extremely clear that Pak military is hand in glove with the entire thing (it always has been). We need to teach Pakistan a lesson if their lifetime & anything less, Modi will not come back for the next term. Balakote and Surgical strikes just don’t cut it!
 
We are simple people, we have simple taste.
We see Pakees, we shoot to kill.
We see Ching Chong, we nuke.

Its not that hard to understand, well?

So, @LX1111, convince Xi to send Armies to Pakistan and I will convince Modi to give a go ahead of nuking the shit out of China. Since sending armies that far takes time, I recommend you start right now. I will wait for Ching Chong armies to show up in Pakistan. Since we just have to press buttons and missiles will be away in minutes, you need to start right now or China will miss the opportunity.

As you said, once we are done with demons of Pakistan, we will round 'em up those dirty Hans in Tibet.
Well, we have now assumed that India will launch a nuclear war against China. Now we have to consider the nuclear weapons levels of both sides. China has a significant advantage and its anti-missile system is also very strong.
 
HQ-26 is irrelevant, no sea between India and China. HQ-19 and HQ-26 are old designs, like India's Phase 1 BMD, they can't stop our more modern IRBMs. Your BMD is not sufficient.

@Saaho's point is valid. China has 70% urbanization versus India's 35%. Any nuclear exchange between the two will not be equal.

And yes, you are afraid of death. At least Xi is. Mao didn't care about Chinese civilians, so tens of millions dying did not concern him in 1962. Deng is your real hero.
There is no accurate picture of HQ26 now, how do you judge it is outdated? India's anti-missile level is roughly equivalent to China's 1970's Anti-Strike-1 missile technology.

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And India's nuclear missiles are not higher than China's DF-21 missiles. China has ensured a 100% interception probability of DF-21 missiles in all anti-missile tests since 2010
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You do realize if war goes nuclear, China will be attacked too?

There's zero chance of China help Pakistan. The opposite can be true.

Anyway, unless things go wrong, this war is unlikely to see the destruction of Pakistan
Then, why didn't India just announce that it was attacking China and that China must not resist, otherwise it would use nuclear weapons?
The Indian nuclear threat is so ridiculous. China and Pakistan have four times as many nuclear weapons as India. Does India really think it has an advantage?
 
There is no accurate picture of HQ26 now, how do you judge it is outdated? India's anti-missile level is roughly equivalent to China's 1970's Anti-Strike-1 missile technology.

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And India's nuclear missiles are not higher than China's DF-21 missiles. China has ensured a 100% interception probability of DF-21 missiles in all anti-missile tests since 2010
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Did you just compare Agni 5 with DF-21?
 
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