Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

Lessons from this short war:
  • First and foremost, the world powers will not let India and Pakistan to fight for a long. So, seize opportunity to do whatever damage you can to the other side.
  • Invest more in Drones, Ballistic missiles, strengthen the AD systems as there will be more and more contactless skirmishes and ambushes.
  • Buy fast and furious platforms like Mig-31 and AAMs like R-37.
  • Don't stress much about 2 front war rather focus on high tech and top notch platforms in smaller numbers which can serve as not only deterrents but also to get trophies.
 
You will say this even if Indian economy is 100000000 trillion dollar but that is beyond the point. I do not blame you.

That being said, I do not think India had prepared to annex back Pak Occupied Kashmir. It was an operation to punish Pakistan and that it has done its job.
We can tell this now "with pok, you need to abdorb the people too. Means thats many voters too".
 
So this all was a fukken propaganda???

Apart from dismissing the tail fin for the moment. There's also an M88 video.

Discussed and rebuted here.

And this is the reason.

You can see the crater on the same type of terrain. The M88 crash site is way too clean.

Apart from that, all other crashes have no wreckages. There's one with a supposed Mirage 2000's M53, but no wreckage. There's another with 2 rings, we can't see the wreckage.

Here's a pic:
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This pic was claimed to be 12 years old, but it's actually new. Google Lens sucks with dates. The ring (bottom right) and the wreckage are too small to be from a fighter jet's engine. The scale is completely off.

You can also see what look like two vertical fins. Those look MKI-sized, but the wreckage is too small to be MKI. So they could be fuselage parts from a UAV that are bent forward. It's much more similar to some kind of secret UAV or a Heron.

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The size seems appropriate for a UAV.

And this is the supposed Rafale crash site in Bathinda. It's way too small to be the Rafale.
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It's like a small garbage dump on the ground that doesn't even come up to knee height. The length is good for either a plane or a UAV, but the bulk is not that of a 10T machine. So that's likely another UAV.

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Lessons from this short war:
  • First and foremost, the world powers will not let India and Pakistan to fight for a long. So, seize opportunity to do whatever damage you can to the other side.
  • Invest more in Drones, Ballistic missiles, strengthen the AD systems as there will be more and more contactless skirmishes and ambushes.
  • Buy fast and furious platforms like Mig-31 and AAMs like R-37.
  • Don't stress much about 2 front war rather focus on high tech and top notch platforms in smaller numbers which can serve as not only deterrents but also to get trophies.
The lesson for us , invest on indigenous state of the art lab and institutions. What they will bring to the table that no foreign mall will give.
 
And we have a ceasefire already started from 3:30 pm IST. The last over hard hitting was the best part of this match. Let’s wait if they start again.. I don’t think they will do. USA engaged with India. Anyway I think they will give guarantees that no terrorist attack will happen in India by Pakistan in future.
Nooo!!! I hope Pakistanis provoke us more and get pounded
At least we should have downed two J-10s with wreckage on our side or pilot captured.



I am not an expert neither I know if we lose Rafale or not and hope it was some minor UAV crash but this guy (he is an ex-Rafale-M pilot of the French Navy) has done a comprehensive breakdown of all scenarios that may have unfolded on that night (turn on english audio track)


He highlighted some shortcomings of Rafale, French tactics/SOPs and our operations.
An important point he mentioned is that in all the multilateral exercises like Anatolian Eagle, Pakistanis bring intelligence officers who put on pilot uniforms and they have pretty high level of understanding about our platforms like Rafale and M2000, on the other hand, J-10s is like a blackbox for us.

But I believe (even though I may sound like stupid desk general (which maybe I am)) that IAF should have first sanitized the airspace and carried out some SEAD operations before hitting the actual targets and in press debrief, they could have said that we shoot them in self-defence because they tried to shoot our planes while we do the operations and actively protecting the terrorists(which they did).
 
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Murica coming to save porkee a**es once again.... Hearing that Porkistan approached US after India bombed their Airbases
Need to re arm and expand our AD and counter AD capabilities. Need to sign MRFA now and get the production of su-57 and su-30's running. The Pakdogs are going to invest in more drones and weapons. Need to heavily invest in our AD and kinetic and non-kinetic options.
Also need to get the f-35's.
 
IWT remain suspended..... Pakistan got massively thrashed in last 24 hours reason for asking ceasefire 😁..... India has always maintained from the very beginning that attacks were against terrorist..... Ball was always in Pakistani Court to escalate & look like they chicken out with nothing other than getting their country bombed 🤣

 
SAAW has less than 100 kg explosives. It cannot make a crater that big. Plus runways are generally reinforced, so punching a hole through that requires a lot of explosives. The same crater on regular ground would have been even bigger.

We probably used SPICE 2000 or one of our new indigenous glide bombs.
I thought SAAW is specifically for runways. Isn't 100kg warhead is more than enough if the explosion is happening after penetration?
 
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IWT remain suspended..... Pakistan got massively thrashed in last 24 hours reason for asking ceasefire 😁..... India has always maintained from the very beginning that attacks were against terrorist..... Ball was always in Pakistani Court to escalate & look like they chicken out with nothing other than getting their country bombed 🤣

BrahMos-A attack on their airbases and nuke sites just broke the camel's back. They realized what was in store for them. Anyways, now that Modi gov. has made it clear to Pak, US etc. that any terror attack by Pak would be deemed an act of war against India, we have kept the door open for future poundings. This way or that POJK is coming home in due time.