Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

tutioton said:
trust me If our economy is 20 trillions I would never say this. I don't understand why everyone wants to continue fighting.

We took out their jihad factories and their air bases, some of their PAF birds too.

Now is the time to step back and evaluate.

In a long term war do you know what happens, look at Russia's failed economy. Foreign investors will leave and supply chain shift from China to India will get stopped.

Unfortunate and sad that so many people are not able to understand this basic point. Right now apple and many companies are coming to India for manufacture. This is all chink ploy do destabilize and destroy our economy.
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You will say this even if Indian economy is 100000000 trillion dollar but that is beyond the point. I do not blame you.

That being said, I do not think India had prepared to annex back Pak Occupied Kashmir. It was an operation to punish Pakistan and that it has done its job.
 
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Shaktimaan said:
Modi is aiming for nobel prize. Thank God, Modi was not the PM of India in 1971.
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No, he is not, it is not even his decision. This entire thing must have been planned really well before we went on offensive. I am 100% sure US was in confidence of this and JD Vance while here had worked this out before he left...

If you have not noticed, a plane that came for Vance has not yet left. It was here for a reason. To collect all the data on Chinese systems and to act as a liaison between Indian and USA.
Jaymax said:
If we stop now it’s a wasted opp

India should have taken this moment and realigned the LoC before stopping.

Right now, except for lowering the threshold, nothing else achieved. Pak will beg cry and borrow money and rebuild all that was destroyed.
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I may be wrong, but most humbly, my friend, it is not the case. Changing LoC will not be an opportunistic stuff like this. Even IG took 9 months to cut B-Desh free. It will take much much more. It will take a very deliberate action. Not an opportunity that just falls in your lap. It will take a proper prep for this, very deliberate.
 
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TARGET said:
That's the power of a common man sitting in the DRDO office with tea and Parle-G biscuits building a state-of-the-art defense system. No foreign maal is equivalent to Akash missile defense.
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I've said it quite a few times before all this, right now, no one has better IADS than India among the big powers. It can counter even the drones that the Russians have struggled with, and they are at war.

The US is yet to take deliveries of NASAMS. The Chinese have largely old systems, the same as the Russians. So the downgraded Chinese systems failed in Pakistan. India's IADS is advanced from bottom to top, plus fully integrated. We did not have all this in 2019 and 2020. It's all post-2022 development, when we received sufficient MRSAMs and S-400s to cover the middle and top rungs. And in 2024, we inducted sufficient CUAS capabilities, both DEW and gun.

We timed things right in the areas that mattered.

It's the advances made in comms, integration, and IADS by 2023 is what brought us to this level. That's why in 2020, I had repeatedly pointed out that if we are to fight China, we have to wait until 2023.

By 2015, the IA and IN lost their peer status to become near-peer relative to China. The IAF fell even worse. It took them until 2023 to rise back up to near-peer status, ie, become competitive enough to put up a fight. Now IA will get back its peer status by 2030 and IAF will follow suit by 2035.
 
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Saaho said:
No, he is not, it is not even his decision. This entire thing must have been planned really well before we went on offensive. I am 100% sure US was in confidence of this and JD Vance while here had worked this out before he left...

If you have not noticed, a plane that came for Vance has not yet left. It was here for a reason. To collect all the data on Chinese systems and to act as a liaison between Indian and USA.

I may be wrong, but most humbly, my friend, it is not the case. Changing LoC will not be an opportunistic stuff like this. Even IG took 9 months to cut B-Desh free. It will take much much more. It will take a very deliberate action. Not an opportunity that just falls in your lap. It will take a proper prep for this, very deliberate.
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I m not saying take back PoK. Only suggesting a more manageable LoC where problem points are taken over to make infiltration much harder. A shallow 3-5 km incursion.
 
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Sathya said:
My Wild guess : Ceasefire is to restrain the nuclear chain. ( If pounding continues later )
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Likely, very likely. US will dig its claw in Pakistani nuke chain.
Jaymax said:
I m not saying take back PoK. Only suggesting a more manageable LoC where problem points are taken over to make infiltration much harder. A shallow 3-5 km incursion.
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That kind of change is still not out of question, even after ceasefire. But that being said, I do not know if it will happen.

Most humbly, I think those two things are not correlated. Those small changes are still possible. LoC is very vague. But say taking Hajipir? Thats a totally different ball game.
 
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RationalGuy said:
This may not be the specific space but i want to ask the experts, can our Rafales with Meteor reliably and with a high chance hit Jeff and J10 inside of their air space or is it more geared towards awacs/refuellers? Why couldn't we hit either the jeff or j10 yet with air to air? Or have we inderd hit more of their fighters and potentially they are concealing it really well? How much of an advantage does J10 with its Gan aesa have over Rafale and ifs GaAs radar? Sorry if these are stupid questions but I feel we must get an air to air kill before this conflict de-escalates.
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J-10 is competitive due to GaN. But we don't have any info about what's going on. For example, India's RoEs may have tied IAF's hands in some ways 'cause we are not at war yet.

What we do know is our IADS cannot be penetrated by these yahoos, and we have no issues getting through their stuff.
 
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South block said:
Strike on Sargodha nuclear facility was probably the final nail in Porkee military leadership bravado..... They immediately called & asked for ceasefire after that. This was an utter Humiliation for them. Operation chadi turned into operation chadi Uttar gai 🤣
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Oh don't get me wrong. Pakistani will celebrate this as their massive victory. Thats very much their nature.
They will loose their home and yet they will be happiest folks on the planet. Fools can be happy at the very least. Almost always.
 
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Saaho said:
You will say this even if Indian economy is 100000000 trillion dollar but that is beyond the point. I do not blame you.

That being said, I do not think India had prepared to annex back Pak Occupied Kashmir. It was an operation to punish Pakistan and that it has done its job.
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No, India first need to become a huge economy that will grow our Millitary industrial complex to unimaginable levels. Then after 10-15 years we solve the problem of pakistan permanently.
 
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And we have a ceasefire already started from 3:30 pm IST. The last over hard hitting was the best part of this match. Let’s wait if they start again.. I don’t think they will do. USA engaged with India. Anyway I think they will give guarantees that no terrorist attack will happen in India by Pakistan in future.
 
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tutioton said:
trust me If our economy is 20 trillions I would never say this. I don't understand why everyone wants to continue fighting.

We took out their jihad factories and their air bases, some of their PAF birds too.

Now is the time to step back and evaluate.

In a long term war do you know what happens, look at Russia's failed economy. Foreign investors will leave and supply chain shift from China to India will get stopped.

Unfortunate and sad that so many people are not able to understand this basic point. Right now apple and many companies are coming to India for manufacture. This is all chink ploy do destabilize and destroy our economy.
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Well said brother. Emotions are running high but it's a good time to end this now for us. India still emerges as the victor. Eventually, the narrative will be totally in Pakistan's favour but Pak military will know the truth.
 
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Saaho said:
WHAT THE *censored* IS GOING ON HERE?????

www.flightglobal.com

Awkward discrepancies in Indian Rafale shootdown image

The fog of war is alive as well in the aerial clash between India and Pakistan, with nebulous imagery swamping social media, exacerbated by limited comments from authorities.
www.flightglobal.com www.flightglobal.com


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The seam line of rudder...
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@randomradio ?
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I don't know whether it's fake or not. But even if it's fake, it's pretty much a 100% accurate replica of the Rafale BS001's fin. The seam line, the font, it all checks out with the real BS001. If it's real, it should be a screen grab from a video. And the video's nowhere to be seen even after 3 days.

So, for now, treat it as a deep fake.
 
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randomradio said:
I don't know whether it's fake or not. But even if it's fake, it's pretty much a 100% accurate replica of the Rafale BS001's fin. The seam line, the font, it all checks out with the real BS001. If it's real, it should be a screen grab from a video. And the video's nowhere to be seen even after 3 days.

So, for now, treat it as a deep fake.
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It is a pretty well optimized image...

I think someone in China made this. This is not Pakistani's work.
 
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