Operation Sindoor: Aftermath

yea now thats concerning. Looks like we are going to have to accelerate the development of our naval based ASBM and integrate it quickly. Although we have tested a ABM at sea in 2022 so shouldnt be too hard to accelerate.

Chinese antiship missile for Pakistan. US will neever sell Pakistan a ballistic missile, thise who cheered for PM's visit to china should see this.
while it does change things, i mean this all only applies if the ships can leave port in the first place.
 
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yea now thats concerning. Looks like we are going to have to accelerate the development of our naval based ASBM and integrate it quickly. Although we have tested a ABM at sea in 2022 so shouldnt be too hard to accelerate.

while it does change things, i mean this all only applies if the ships can leave port in the first place.
Havent our navy been working on countering the Chinese threat? This much should already be accounted for.
 
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Chinese antiship missile for Pakistan. US will neever sell Pakistan a ballistic missile, thise who cheered for PM's visit to china should see this.

You still think China visit was friendship ? It was always a geopolitical move wrt USA. And that was the whole idea along with the support for move. Which still remains same.

Only you will think that a tactical visit as response to US pressure wrt to Russia, is India extending a hand for friendship to China. Kya narrative chalta hai tera yaar.
And USA has sold F-16 to Pak. Back when we didn't have better FA in our inventory. It has given a lot of things to pak. Including backing ISI in khalistani issues. So, stop looking for white man's approval.
 
Pakistan’s so called navy won’t survive first contact. Can they launch these from their subs ? If yes, that’s the only case I will worry about these missiles.

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yea now thats concerning. Looks like we are going to have to accelerate the development of our naval based ASBM and integrate it quickly. Although we have tested a ABM at sea in 2022 so shouldnt be too hard to accelerate.

while it does change things, i mean this all only applies if the ships can leave port in the first place.

PN is upping its game. Its copying the Chinese approach of threatening Prime Assets.

For PN, SMASH creates a bubble. Any ship that enters the bubble must be under cover of ABMs else its a walking target. Hinders independent operations forces ships to move in a fleet - which provides rich targets in many ways. If they stay in Karachi Harbor the 1200km bubble still exists from Karachi towards Arabian Sea.

But like all things Pak, its smokes and mirrors. Effective targeting is an expensive skill to acquire and maintain. Which is one of the reasons why you see India going gung ho on live firing these days. A lot of validation and refinement is going on. Pak has done first test firing. The entire chain from identification to targeting to launch must work like a well oiled machine.

Whats next from IN?

0 hour - missile strike, followed by a follow up missile strike to clear remainders at +4 hours.

Mop up done with loitering munitions at +8 hours

Followed by airstrikes and voila - the bubble is punctured.
 
PN is upping its game. Its copying the Chinese approach of threatening Prime Assets.

For PN, SMASH creates a bubble. Any ship that enters the bubble must be under cover of ABMs else its a walking target. Hinders independent operations forces ships to move in a fleet - which provides rich targets in many ways. If they stay in Karachi Harbor the 1200km bubble still exists from Karachi towards Arabian Sea.

But like all things Pak, its smokes and mirrors. Effective targeting is an expensive skill to acquire and maintain. Which is one of the reasons why you see India going gung ho on live firing these days. A lot of validation and refinement is going on. Pak has done first test firing. The entire chain from identification to targeting to launch must work like a well oiled machine.

Whats next from IN?

0 hour - missile strike, followed by a follow up missile strike to clear remainders at +4 hours.

Mop up done with loitering munitions at +8 hours

Followed by airstrikes and voila - the bubble is punctured.
Relying on ballistic missiles to engage a moving warship is essentially a delusional fantasy........ You would need aggressive end phase course corrections that bleed velocity, flatten the trajectory, and make the inbound missile far more predictable and easier to intercept compared to say sea-skimming cruise missiles........ This is why modern militaries field dedicated anti-ship cruise systems rather than ballistic profiles for maritime strike....... In any real shooting war, their fishing boat surface fleet would be in serious trouble the moment it clears the harbor, as our coastal missile batteries deployed across Gujarat provides coverage extending all the way to Iran border....... a sustained, accurate, saturation level fires from these coastal batteries would overwhelm and neutralize there blue water fishing boat fleet the moment they left safety of their harbor.
 
Relying on ballistic missiles to engage a moving warship is essentially a delusional fantasy........ You would need aggressive end phase course corrections that bleed velocity, flatten the trajectory, and make the inbound missile far more predictable and easier to intercept compared to say sea-skimming cruise missiles........ This is why modern militaries field dedicated anti-ship cruise systems rather than ballistic profiles for maritime strike....... In any real shooting war, their fishing boat surface fleet would be in serious trouble the moment it clears the harbor, as our coastal missile batteries deployed across Gujarat provides coverage extending all the way to Iran border....... a sustained, accurate, saturation level fires from these coastal batteries would overwhelm and neutralize there blue water fishing boat fleet the moment they left safety of their harbor.
It's just a repackaged CM-401. It's not that effective.
 
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Karachi slum spawn like you survive on pure coping history...... don’t start deluding yourself in the glory of your Turkish masters whose surving descendants in India rot in same slums you crawled out of, while their womenfolk ho! around just to score a night meal....... your Turkish masters could never have killed Hindus ever despite their repeated efforts.......... the closest you lot ever came was during the Delhi Sultanate days when the Rajputs were burned out from nonstop wars.... but even that tiny flicker of relevance got snatched away the moment the Sanatani dharma rakshak Mongol rolled in from North and sent your source of jihadi slave recruits flying into oblivion from Central Asia to the Middle East, with Buddhist Hulagu Khan alone casually bulldozing your so called golden age into oblivion and since Buddhism itself is just another branch of Hinduism, 🙂 the kill count didn’t even register......... it was basically a cosmic reset button that left your entire ola-hu-uber brigade stunned, humiliated, shattered, while genetic map of your precious Turkish master homeland in Central Asia got changed permanently, leaving you Slum spawn pretenders whining in the ruins with nothing but cope left..... Muslim rule has long gone the delusion hasn't, even after getting thrashed left right and centre by kuffar from around the globe.
I doubt surfjizz is karachi slum spawn mohazir, most probably a buffalo f*ker porkjabay, who hates pestoons' and balochis' guts for lynching fellow porkjabays from buses etc as expressed frequently by him in the mirpuri pedo forum.

Coming to the cope of subcon mohemmadans of 700 year rule, large area rule (whatever that means), it is not like they did not tried it few times like orangajeb etc but every time they tried it buck broke their kangdoms soon after, Neither delhi soltonate nor moghul could achieve it as they are primitive extractive states with limited bureaucracy and state capacity that anything outside of few capitals was beyond those mohemmadan control, the country side was under largely hindu rule. I mean babar literally mentions, there are two powerful Hindu kingdoms in India when he came (Mewar in North, Vijayanagar in South), at any given time there were continous powerful Hindu kingdoms with in India not like the fantasy version of history imagined by these subcon mohemadans.
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Audacity of the buffalo f*cking porkjabay state, who were elevated to sapience from buffalo f*ckin by british of all people, by developing canals, making new cities etc, which even their "fellow mohemadan biradri" rulers like turkics or pestoons never did for them when they ruled that region to call RJB as so called "Ram Temple".

Before any pakees gas light you for babri, remember pakees chimped out and demolished bunch of historic Temples in pakistan during the same time: https://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/08/world/pakistanis-attack-30-hindu-temples.html
 
Relying on ballistic missiles to engage a moving warship is essentially a delusional fantasy........ You would need aggressive end phase course corrections that bleed velocity, flatten the trajectory, and make the inbound missile far more predictable and easier to intercept compared to say sea-skimming cruise missiles........ This is why modern militaries field dedicated anti-ship cruise systems rather than ballistic profiles for maritime strike....... In any real shooting war, their fishing boat surface fleet would be in serious trouble the moment it clears the harbor, as our coastal missile batteries deployed across Gujarat provides coverage extending all the way to Iran border....... a sustained, accurate, saturation level fires from these coastal batteries would overwhelm and neutralize there blue water fishing boat fleet the moment they left safety of their harbor.
the sm3 is an anti ballistic and the sm6 can perform limited anti ballistic as well. the CM401 is a credible missile that might not stand against those 2 but we dont have anti ballistic capablities on our ships yet. Consider it similar to our pralay but maybe slightly worse. It can most certianly hit our ships at maybe not 800km but at 400km.

The ERSAM(barak-8ER) can do it but our ships use the LRSAM not the ERSAM. th LRSAM is exceptional against sea skimming threats but unlike th ERSAM it has a max of like mach 2-3. the ERSAM has an extra booster that takes it to mach 4-5. the ERSAM is also 1.5m longer than the LRSAM so we cant reterofit our ships easily.

Bombarding their ports is true but what if they have constant deployment of a ship outside the port in the arabian sea far enough away from the range of the indian coastal batteries. In case of a conflict that is almost certain to happen and given our leadership we dont do a first strike on the military especially not the navy.


WE need a proper ABM on ships to counter ASBMs. the MFSTAR is more than enough we just need the missile. really hope they finally start integrating a 4 cell VLS or something of the ad-1 or the AAD onto the vizag and kolkata classes of even the nilgiri class. We need an sea based ABM.
We also need to look at the countering the yj21 and for that we need the navy kusha(250km). Thats is wayy to far out though.
 
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Chinese antiship missile for Pakistan. US will neever sell Pakistan a ballistic missile, thise who cheered for PM's visit to china should see this.
Fake news. their missile range is barely 300KM and they have not yet tested against a moving target. This is basically a rocket artillery like their Fateh rockets. Highly inaccurate and incapable of hitting targets precisely. Indian Sagarika missile from 90s is more potent.
 
Man! Sometimes it feels like Converted are more desperate to prove them true believers instead of believers themselves.

No wonder muslims across South Asia face unprecedented identity crisis, giving way to insecurity and irrational fear. Making them prime asset to be radicalised and trained as terrorists.

Even in Africa, it's the converted that gets radicalised first. As if they want to outdo each other to prove who is better believer. Even palestinians have been discarded from surrounding muslim nations, ironically with the help of pak military only. Egypt erects a wall to keep them out, whole other royalty only invite important Palestinians to work as their tools. Giving them same status as converted.

While the real believers of founding members.. they drink wine, have grand show for western leaders, live in grand castles and enjoying the life while delegating tasks to converted. Even Turkish's sudden love for pak is to use the converted as tools, taking a leaf out of others' book. Their proximity to NATO only gives them close experience on handling them. Why would erdogan shed turkish blood when aspiring turkish are ready to shed it at a moments notice.

Mercenary state for a reason.
Fake news. their missile range is barely 300KM and they have not Qyet tested against a moving target. This is basically a rocket artillery like their Fateh rockets. Highly inaccurate and incapable of hitting targets precisely. Indian Sagarika missile from 90s is more potent.

We sure? Better to take range as 1000 and prepare with that in mind. Right?