Operation Sindoor: Aftermath

Fake news. their missile range is barely 300KM and they have not yet tested against a moving target. This is basically a rocket artillery like their Fateh rockets. Highly inaccurate and incapable of hitting targets precisely. Indian Sagarika missile from 90s is more potent.
its a modified(i.....cough...cough) version of the CM401. Its not fake. the range might be lower but the capability is the same
 
By "we" i meant , Muslims.
Muslims? What Muslims?

You people were never Muslims. You just accepted the religion of winners.

Arabs, the OG of Islam, do not even think spit on your face.

The ones who ruled India were Turks and Persians. Mughals spoke Turkish or Persian in their homes or court. They had nothing in common with you folks. You people speak Urdu officially and mostly Punjabi. You are as much of a ruler as slaves are.
its a modified(i.....cough...cough) version of the CM401. Its not fake. the range might be lower but the capability is the same
Its a rocket artillery and less of a missile. Limited range. Very limited ability of hitting a moving vessel. Brahmos has 450-600 KM range and will always outgun this. Whats more, an 800 KM variant of Brahmos was just tested. Plus a 1500 KM range anti-ship hypersonic missile is being readied.
 
We sure? Better to take range as 1000 and prepare with that in mind. Right?
We are doing way better than puny 1000 KM. LRAShBM has a range of 1500 KM and has already been test fired, twice. So no issues there. And unlike a stupid rocket artillery, LRAShBM is a real hypersonic missile capable of turning on a dime to hit a moving ship with ease.

That and 800 KM Bramhos will render all of Pakistani ships useless even before they move in the range.
 
Fake news. their missile range is barely 300KM and they have not yet tested against a moving target. This is basically a rocket artillery like their Fateh rockets. Highly inaccurate and incapable of hitting targets precisely. Indian Sagarika missile from 90s is more potent.
They released a video of hitting a vessel.
We are doing way better than puny 1000 KM. LRAShBM has a range of 1500 KM and has already been test fired, twice. So no issues there. And unlike a stupid rocket artillery, LRAShBM is a real hypersonic missile capable of turning on a dime to hit a moving ship with ease.

That and 800 KM Bramhos will render all of Pakistani ships useless even before they move in the range.
We need a potent SAM system to take down incoming missile not Brahmos. Even if we wiped out all pakistani vessels in day 1, still this threat will be there as a shore based weapon.
 

Thoug we had clear advantage, the fear of the repeating this 1971 7th fleet incident might be the reason why we stopped op-sindoor abruptly. And, this tge actual reason for the lauce, i fear there wont be any war with pak too.
 
The ERSAM(barak-8ER) can do it but our ships use the LRSAM not the ERSAM. th LRSAM is exceptional against sea skimming threats but unlike th ERSAM it has a max of like mach 2-3. the ERSAM has an extra booster that takes it to mach 4-5. the ERSAM is also 1.5m longer than the LRSAM so we cant reterofit our ships easily.
Barak-8 was meant to supplement/replace PAC-3 batteries in the terminal BMD role in IDF service. So LRSAM can take on the role, esp now that IN frontline ships are CEC-capable.
 
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yea now thats concerning. Looks like we are going to have to accelerate the development of our naval based ASBM and integrate it quickly. Although we have tested a ABM at sea in 2022 so shouldnt be too hard to accelerate.

while it does change things, i mean this all only applies if the ships can leave port in the first place.
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Keep your gober language to yourself please. No need of bad mouthing.
By "we" i meant , Muslims.
To indians religion is ethnicity, as all indian Muslims are treated as one ethnicity and foreigners
Says who?

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Imagine being insecure of idolatry and polytheism being the greatest of all sins and not grooming gangs and terrorism.
Arabs, the OG of Islam, do not even think spit on your face.
Lmao
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LRAShM says hello
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Says who?

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Imagine being insecure of idolatry and polytheism being the greatest of all sins and not grooming gangs and terrorism.

Lmao
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LRAShM cant protect out ships from the missile can it? Plus why tf are we even comparing with pakistan? our main opponent has now shifted to china and to stand a chance we need a proper ABM. The LRAShM is good but we need a ship based variant integrated soon and not in fking 2035 when the p18 comes.

We need both the LRAShM and an ABM and like ive said we have tested a sea based ABM in 2023. we simply need to refine it and integrate it.
 
LRAShM cant protect out ships from the missile can it? Plus why tf are we even comparing with pakistan? our main opponent has now shifted to china and to stand a chance we need a proper ABM. The LRAShM is good but we need a ship based variant integrated soon and not in fking 2035 when the p18 comes.

We need both the LRAShM and an ABM and like ive said we have tested a sea based ABM in 2023. we simply need to refine it and integrate it.
Project 18 will have ABM systems embedded in them. I doubt it makes sense to fit LRAShM on ships, when hypersonic cruise missile is supposedly a much better ship-based option as the former is much larger and heavier owing to being a hypersonic glide vehicle.
 
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Project 18 will have ABM systems embedded in them. I doubt it makes sense to fit LRAShM on ships, when hypersonic cruise missile is supposedly a much better ship-based option as the former is much larger and heavier owing to being a hypersonic glide vehicle.
yea a HGV on a ship is not great cause its too big. as for our hypersonic cruise missile we dont yet have a ship based version in development. Maybe with putins visit in december we finally get the tech for the zircon from NPO and make some progress on the brahmos 2 although its probably highly unlikely
 
Barak-8 was meant to supplement/replace PAC-3 batteries in the terminal BMD role in IDF service. So LRSAM can take on the role, esp now that IN frontline ships are CEC-capable.
Does CM-401 leave the atmosphere? If not, then does that make it easier or harder for system like Barak-8 or VL-SRSAM to intercept such missiles?
 
Does CM-401 leave the atmosphere? If not, then does that make it easier or harder for system like Barak-8 or VL-SRSAM to intercept such missiles?
near space i.e around 60-100km. Its not out of space yet. The LRSAM(navy barak 8) has a max altitude of around 16-17km. its also quasi ballistic so quite similar to our pralay in that sense(but the pralay has a much flatter trajectory keeping it in the atmosphere and so its able to move a lot more) but its does not have a MARV but is said to be able to maneuver at hypersonic(probably not hypersonic but at least supersonic) so not too far away from the pralay.

its basically a worse version of the pralay but still a decent weapon and unlike the pralay actually produced in decent amounts by the chinese.


near space makes it impossible for the barak 8 to hit in during its slower cruise phase and we will have to wait until it performs its terminal dive. this decreases the likelihood of intercept
the VLSRSAM is not designed to take on ballistic threats. its meant to be used against sea skimming or threats at a much lower altitude.

if what @Speedster1 said is true then we dont need to worry too much about this missile as ASBMs always slow down during the final minutes of the flight cause of air resistance. But the barak ER is the true ATBM capable missile so i still have some misgivings
 
Does CM-401 leave the atmosphere? If not, then does that make it easier or harder for system like Barak-8 or VL-SRSAM to intercept such missiles?

CM-401 is ultimately an evolution of the land-based SY-400/BP-12 SRBM family. Its low altitude performance at sea level should be significantly degraded.

Given the relative ease with which the USN shot down Houthi ASBM (believed to be Iranian Fateh 313 variants) which is in roughly the same class as CM-401, the IN should be able to tackle CM-401 too.

B-8/LRSAM sits between the ESSM and SM-2 series on the capability curve and was designed for multiple target sets. IAI specifically designed it as a credible alternative to the high end SM-2/3 interceptors which were overkill for the Isreali Navy.

I'd say if the Israelis haven't acquired SM-3 for sea-based BMD yet, the B-8 must be quite capable in the role.
 
They released a video of hitting a vessel.
That video is fake. The real video shows hitting a target on ground.
We need a potent SAM system to take down incoming missile not Brahmos. Even if we wiped out all pakistani vessels in day 1, still this threat will be there as a shore based weapon.
Even better, see first shoot first. Shoot at their frigattes before they get a chance to fire that missile.
LR-SAM and MR-SAM can defeat a rocket artillery.
 
Keep your gober language to yourself please. No need of bad mouthing.
By "we" i meant , Muslims.
To indians religion is ethnicity, as all indian Muslims are treated as one ethnicity and foreigners
Woh sab theek hain maamu , what's the latest on Khansama at Adiala ? Is he alive ? Does he suffer from haemorrhoids thanks to plenty of fun Pathan style in Adiala ?

What about the millions of Khusra & Khwajasara PTI supporters like yourself , overseas & at home ? Why aren't they protesting hard enough ?

What will it take for the entire impotent awam to turn on that Shi'a murtad Munira ? Or have the martial race of Punjabi Musalman given up like they've so often throughout your history ?