Operation Sindoor: Aftermath

What was being hushed up is now more and more in the open.

Diplomacy was bungled post Pahalgam

Munir as a soldier might be hopeless but as a politician he is top tier.

He got his behind handed to him, yet got promoted. Got Trump on his side and is now hobnobbing with Arabs on Gaza peace plans.

This is by selling the country some might say - the same country has been sold 5-6 times over.

Meanwhile our side spent 6 months saying Sindoor is on and we ll treat every terror attack like an act of war.

When the time came we did a feeble Parakram 2 (also under BJP).

Forces in the field, primed up and ready and no orders to attack.

If Trump can force the outcome - why make such bold statements especially when relations with US were going downhill ?

We thought all the Notams are mock drill for the impending attack...

Now it Seems like it can only serve to defend.
No matter how many evidences pop up.

With Trade deal is on this month end and Putin s visit next month..

Diplomacy is already busy ..
 
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jaishankar is an overhyped mediocre mandarin.


Easy on the name calling.

Sindoor 2 didn’t take off but the cold season is just starting.

Every intense training cycle is followed by reviews, consults to fine tune plans based on results. Equipment would be in maintenance cycle.

By mid December, things will be at the go-no go point.

If we still don’t go in just suck it and accept the govt called it a day.
If goi is not keep up with its own word that war with pak, i fear they may even drop the withdrawal decision on indus water treaty.
 
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Take any contentious issue related to diplomacy and FP ever since this forum started. Any issue upto 2023.

Check the initial view point on the issue from members of this forum. The hype, the defenders and the doomsday predictor. The Jaishankar's critiques, Modi's critique etc etc..

Fast forward 1 or 2 years later to the starting of that issue. Check the status of said issue.

Do this excercise for some few issues and you will come to a realisation. And its not limited to FP. But even in domestic policies.

Do it yourself to get the best insight.
Adios
 
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The Modi government was just trying to create deterrence by repeatedly saying that Operation Sindoor is paused, but they don’t have the guts to initiate it again. It is also absolutely clear now that Pakistan was behind this attack.View attachment 47902
We dont have guts, because last 11 years are just another st antony era with some marginal defence procurement. The lost 22 years of defense startrd from 2003 is creating the problem for us. Had we have signed original mmrcs deal in 2014 things would have different.
 
We dont have guts, because last 11 years are just another st antony era with some marginal defence procurement. The lost 22 years of defense startrd from 2003 is creating the problem for us. Had we have signed original mmrcs deal in 2014 things would have different.
Just so you know, the original deal for 126 Rafale jets was for the F2 standard, these aircraft didn't come with METEOR as standard fit (not that it matters because it looks like even F3R don't come with them).
 
The Modi government was just trying to create deterrence by repeatedly saying that Operation Sindoor is paused, but they don’t have the guts to initiate it again. It is also absolutely clear now that Pakistan was behind this attack.View attachment 47902

I am more worried about the part "Lab in home". What the heck imwas everyone doing. Does TOI realise what kind of sophisticated lab would be required to "test" and DIY experiment with the kind of materials he was handling.

What did he study. Not every doctor has the skills to pull it off just from Telegram. That's idiotic to think of. So, where did he get hand on training ? Turkey? Pakistan? BD? India? Who and how it was provided. Was any university other than Al-Falah gave him access to such facility.

Then how did he set up the lab? Can it be made from tools and equipment from your sources available to a doc of al-falah. Remember, FSL team apparently had an ' accident' while handling it. So, this jihadis process of noob to expert is more important to figure out. That's the network and the immediate hidden threat for our lives.
We will need to close those loopholes by making changes to policies from various ministries. And these radicalising videos only work when the initial state is primed for it. That is difference between journey from a radical to Jihadi. So, again.. it starts from young age or after some significant event in one's life. For young age, we know the kind of people madrassa have been churning out. It's from psychological perspective. I can make a thread to tell you my own personal experience of seeing a 17 year old literate and educated guy getting sucked by reels and shorts. But the inherent thought process wasn't built by reels. That was conditioned way before from childhood.


Anyone have knowledge on how easy/hard it is to set up such experiment lab ? Cause etc was civil agencies doing! No one flagged anything? No neighbor got any whiff of something sneaky? No colleague or relatives? Beside who were part of it.


The issue is far more complex. I don't think the civil society still has realised the gravity of the issue. Otherwise.. we would've been having discourse with a different approach completely. Right now it's like usual political drama and TRP fight. Usual potshots and such.

I hope everyone realises the graveness and implications while time is left. Take personal precautions and spread awareness.
 
Just so you know, the original deal for 126 Rafale jets was for the F2 standard, these aircraft didn't come with METEOR as standard fit (not that it matters because it looks like even F3R don't come with them).
Was it F2? Was it stock or India custom? I know the AESA antenna can be fitted to the F2 standard.
 
Just so you know, the original deal for 126 Rafale jets was for the F2 standard, these aircraft didn't come with METEOR as standard fit (not that it matters because it looks like even F3R don't come with them).
Original deal was for 126 mmrca aircraft, not for rafale or eft of f16 or mig.
Version weapons are not part of tender, and is to be sorted out after selection of particular aircraft.
 
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There was a co-ordinated campaign led by Islamabad. People who have been following this thread should not be surprised by such revelations or evaluations. ISPR bots were spewing AI images left and right. The sad part of it was that the Indian administrative apparatus was found wanting when it came to IW. Lessons for the future.
 
I feel like they want a war with India just to secure their political ambitions. Afterall the elites there don't give a *censored* even if the regular soldier gets killed in thousands. Or if their assets get blown to smitherins. For them it will only help them to beg more easily like Palestine to western powers. And all that money they will get from begging in the name of humanity will obviously get to the pockets of Munira, him and co. Most of them will just divert that same money into their overseas business. Meanwhile their quam would be smoking "We defeated India" Churan as usual while rotting in poverty as usual. What a bunch of psychopaths we are dealing with man.
 
I feel like they want a war with India just to secure their political ambitions. Afterall the elites there don't give a *censored* even if the regular soldier gets killed in thousands. Or if their assets get blown to smitherins. For them it will only help them to beg more easily like Palestine to western powers. And all that money they will get from begging in the name of humanity will obviously get to the pockets of Munira, him and co. Most of them will just divert that same money into their overseas business. Meanwhile their quam would be smoking "We defeated India" Churan as usual while rotting in poverty as usual. What a bunch of psychopaths we are dealing with man.
Unfortunately, we cannot change our neighbors. However, what we can do is adopt a realistic and pragmatic foreign policy along with funding a potent military force. They are clearly hostile so why not repay in kind whenever feasible.

Let them sell whatever they want to their awaam in country and as well as abroad. Things have been like this since the past 7 odd decades.