News One dead, three injured in clashes between two groups in UP

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To be honest those days are gone when our deep state used to destabilise India .
Now India has played a jolly good game and bought off our main politicians.
Nawaz Sharif has big business with Sajjan Jindal . His sugar mills have all Indian machinery , even Indian staff.
Zardari the same.
Total annual business with India in 4 billion dollars and upwards.
We buy 4 billion dollars worth of Indian products and services, while India buys a mere 2 billion annually.
So basically 2+ billion of Pakistan's money goes to India every year. ( Figures from a 2015 state Bank of Pakistan report).
ISI was starved of money by nawaz government and had a mere 6 million dollars budget.
So we can do jack shi*t when it comes to clandestine propaganda warfare against India. Our leaders are more pro India than pro Pakistan due their financial interests in India.
Our military is being systematically blocked from taking any covert step against India.
We even failed to support Kashmiri freedom fighters for more than a decade.
In the 80s and 90s I saw myself Kashmiri fighters being trained at a Pakistani army firing range, being trained for military grade marksmanship.
Doesn't happen anymore and hasn't for over a decade.
I keep listening to Indian leaders and media blaming ISI , Pakistan for all sorts and I laugh.
India is a larger country with more resources, naturally there would be a trade imbalance. Also think in terms of cheaper products, which would help people of Pakistan, this is a hidden profit.

I think we are being manipulated by our leaders. There is a attempt by politicians to exploit fault-lines between communities, so that people fight with each other. Indians and Pakistanis are brought up differently, more hatred and less attempt to understand each other. Our leaders gain more control over us.

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In Padmawati riots emotional and simple among the Rajput youth were made to clash with others. Karni sena members actually believe that honour of their community is at stake. That this is similar to Jodha Akbar 2, leaders are exploiting patriach mentality and caste feelings.
 
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India is a larger country with more resources, naturally there would be a trade imbalance. Also think in terms of cheaper products, which would help people of Pakistan, this is a hidden profit.

I think we are being manipulated by our leaders. There is a attempt by politicians to exploit fault-lines between communities, so that people fight with each other. Indians and Pakistanis are brought up differently, more hatred less attempt to understand each other. Our leaders gain more control over us.

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In Padmawati riots emotional and simple among the Rajput youth were made to clash with others. Karni sena members actually believe that honour of their community is at stake. That this is similar to Jodha Akbar 2, leaders are exploiting patriach mentality and caste feelings.


Meanwhile,

Hindu students were brutally beaten by Muslim principal for chanting Vande Mataram in Mirzapur.

UP Police trivialized the issue and its this trivializing of Facts that ends in kids getting shot during Republic day Tiranga yatra.

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There are several NO-GO zones in every town in UP where anything could happen anytime.
A moderate Muslim friend of mine told me about where even women from Muslim community won't like to go through.

I'd suggest any of my Hindu brothers to keep calm & don't waste your life for showing nationalism at this situation because all political parties are high on their appeasement politics.

A Hindu life only costs 3-5 Lakhs Rs. compensation.
Brother this is what I think, Hindutwa Nationalism is a trap, we need to save our brother Indians. Nationalism should be towards people of our country, humanity first, we have a Indian DNA( human DNA if we are ready for it ), not a Hindu DNA. Politicians are exploiting us and making us fight, using our caste, religion and creed.

The Muslims who lost economically in Kashganj riots were very very poor people like puncture shop owners, they are patriots like us with Indian DNA. The Hindus in ABVP rally were also innocent, they truly believe they were part of a tiranga rally, but here bhagwa is being mixed with tiranga. I see a pattern...

Left and right should understand try to understand each other instead of fight with each other.
 
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Meanwhile "Reel life" Heroes and villains and assembling to save India from evil Hindu conspiracy. :eek:

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You are doing a good job brother, Help my Indian brothers understand Hindutwa ... All you smarter ones save yourselves... ;) I can use a bh-akt to explose Hindutwa... If corporates can use Mainstream media to exploit simple and innocent Indians. Even Amir Khan is fighting using movies pk , satyamev Jayate and "Taare Zameen par", ... Now I know why Bahubali 2 lost to Dangal(fight).
 
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Brother this is what I think, Hindutwa Nationalism is a trap, we need to save our brother Indians. Nationalism should be towards people of our country, humanity first, we have a Indian DNA( human DNA if we are ready for it ), not a Hindu DNA. Politicians are exploiting us and making us fight, using our caste, religion and creed.

The Muslims who lost economically in Kashganj riots were very very poor people like puncture shop owners, they are patriots like us with Indian DNA. The Hindus in ABVP rally were also innocent, they truly believe they were part of a tiranga rally, but here bhagwa is being mixed with tiranga. I see a pattern...

You see a "pattern" ? ......... funny. So do I.

We are Hindu, Indira’s children declare confidently after Muslim conversion quashed


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Jan 30 ― M. Indira Gandhi's two elder children can now proudly declare their Hindu identity, after the Federal Court yesterday nullified their conversion to Islam that was done without their Hindu mother’s consent.

Tevi Darsiny, the eldest child now aged 20, said she felt “overwhelmed” when she heard about the Federal Court ruling voiding her conversion by her Muslim convert father, Muhammad Riduan Abdullah.

“When my mom called me this morning to tell me about the decision, I started crying with her. After all these years, we finally got justice to what has been done to us.


“For the past nine years, people (friends and acquaintances) ask us what are we, as in what religion are we? And my answer would be 'I'm a Hindu', with confidence. After today, I can say it with assurance that 'I am a Hindu',” she told Malay Mail in a written response yesterday.
Karan Dinish, the second child now aged 19, said he was left “speechless” after hearing about the decision from his aunt who called him as soon as everyone was out of the courtroom.

“I will be more confident of my identity and I think I wouldn't have to be afraid of people asking me whether I'm a Muslim or an Indian,” he said.
On April 2, 2009, K. Pathmanathan, or Muhammad Riduan Abdullah as he is now known, had covertly converted his three children to Islam without their knowledge and without Indira’s consent, before going to the Shariah court just a few days later to obtain custody rights for them. The Shariah court only has jurisdiction over Muslims.

Indira had in May 2016 told Malay Mail however that both her elder children have been practising Hindus since birth, with their identity cards still carrying the names they were born with and stating their religious status as Hindu. While confirming to Malay Mail then that they had been spared from going to Islamic classes in school, she had then said it was unjust for them to spend “miserable years” with uncertainty over their official religious status.

The youngest child, Prasana Diksa, was abducted by Muhammad Riduan as an 11-month-old nine years ago and was last seen in a photo wearing what appears to be a “tudung”, or headscarf usually worn by Muslim women.

The Federal Court yesterday unanimously declared that it was unlawful to convert children to Islam without the consent of both parents.


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The lost years, a family apart

Tevi and Karan were first thrust into the limelight as children because of the court battles over their custody and their religious status, which lasted throughout their teenage years until now.

“We try to be as discreet as we can, but we can't have all that we want, right?” Tevi asked.

For Karan, the publicity of their family's case was necessary to ensure no other Malaysians would suffer the same ordeal that they went through.
“People have to know about this issue. There shouldn't be another problem popping out similar to our family case...So it's not about losing privacy, it's about opening the eyes of Malaysians on issues like this,” he said.

As their mother Indira trudged through the courts for years just to have her children recognised as Hindus, Tevi and Karan had slowly reached and surpassed the age of 18 ― the age of majority in Malaysia where one can decide their own religion.

Tevi, who will be turning 21 in May, is currently pursuing a Bachelor of Science (Decision Science) degree in Universiti Utara Malaysia. Karan, who will be 20 this October, is now studying for his A-Levels in Brickfields Asia College and hopes to pursue a law degree.

Torn apart forcibly from their youngest sibling who will be turning 10 this year, Tevi and Karan are still unhappy with Muhammad Riduan's actions.

“I have always been disappointed with my father that he would want us to go through this and that has never changed,” Tevi said.
Karan said he was “extremely frustrated” with his father's “irresponsible attitude”, adding: “If he wanted to convert, it wouldn't have been an issue, why did he have to convert us as well?”

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Our sister Prasana

Prasana Diksa, who was born on April 8 and has spent all her birthdays away from her mother and elder siblings, remains with her father.
Tevi said the last time they saw Prasana was when the latter was just one and a half years old, when the judge had ordered all the children to be present in court for a custody case then.

“She had little memory of us then, I guess, because she kept coming to where we sat and showed us her scribble on papers. That was the last we had contact with her as well,” she said.

“A few years later, we saw a photo of her and my father sent by his lawyers.

“After everyone saw the picture, they said she looks like me, but we have yet to confirm it. And I don't think I would recognise her now. I can only still picture her as the baby I looked after,” she added.

Karan said the last he spoke to Prasana was nine years ago, adding: “I hope she looks like my sister. Hahaha when Prasana was young, she looked alike my sister Tevi. I'm not sure whether I can recognise her or not as 9 years have passed.”

Both Tevi and Karan remain focused like their mother on the hope of eventually being reunited with Prasana.

“Today has been a very blessed day and for that, I thank all who have given their all to fight for the cause. But as much as peace we now can have, my sister, Prasana Diksa, is not with us yet still. So till then we still have a fight to be fought,” Tevi said.
Karan added: “As everyone knows, the whereabouts of my sister and father is still a big mystery. As long as my sister isn't back to my mom, the fight will go on!”

Following yesterday's court ruling, Inspector-General of Police Tan Sri Mohamad Fuzi Harun told Malay Mail that he will instruct the police force to track down both Muhammad Riduan and Prasana. He later said that the police have been trying to locate Muhammad Riduan since 2014 but were unable to make any progress on his whereabouts.

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Look at Inforwarriors utter hypocricy on full display every single day.

If i carry Mumbai indians flag with Tiranga, is it a problem? NO
If i carry a red flag with Tiranga, is it a problem? NO
If i carry a green flag with Tiranga, is it a problem? NO
If i carry a bhagwa flag with Tiranga, is it a problem? HELL YES YOU TERRORIST

Is Proselytism ok as per Indian law? YES
Is Dawah ok as per Indian law? YES
is ghar wapsi ok as per Indian law? HELL NO YOU INTOLERANT TERRORIST
 
Be on topic...... Any off topic will be removed..... Though the topic will have certain amount of religious discussion.... Ensure no one goes overboard.....
 
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What is so wrong in asking people to say ' VANDE MATARAM' it was our call for Independence was it not? or are you from Pakistan and you believe your call was different?

If Muslims are peeved at VANDE MATARM.
Why should Hindus uphold your so called Secularism? What do we get in return for doing so. Do we get some benefits?
You take over our Temples and hoard our donations, give HAJ subsidies to Minorities.
RTE ACT only for Hindu run Schools and more...

Kya Hamne Theka liya he kya Poora Secularism ka? Bhaad mein jaye Secularism.

The rally went through a Muslim area ( which was celebrating Republic day as per you) why should they be provoked by 'VANDE MATARAM' or saffron flag?
Two Hindu kids died due to firing from Muslims who were ambushing their rally.
Now who came prepared to Ambush ?
Certainly not the youth who took out Tiranga Yatra, You were justifying Weapons at homes of Muslims earlier, What do you think will happen when every Hindu starts keeping weapons in their homes?

Next time don't come to Hindu Neighborhoods, if you don't like Saffron flags.
Do you think the ABVP rally organizer speculated, that something like this would happen ? Talent cannot be learned, politicians have a knack for mass psychology. If the ABVP rally organizer speculated this, then the ABVP rally organizer killed Chandan Gupta.
 
Do you think the ABVP rally organizer speculated, that something like this would happen ? Talent cannot be learned, politicians have a knack for mass psychology. If the ABVP rally organizer speculated this, then the ABVP rally organizer killed Chandan Gupta.

LOL...... wonderful.

If a women is raped by a man, then she is responsible since she dressed "provocatively".

If a Hindu is killed by a muslim, then its because of ABVP. :cool:



You forgot to add, Modi is responsible. lol.
 
Evil is still an evil if it act evil for being challenged.

I am free to roam around anywhere in India, chant Pakistan/China/Uganda Murdabad and NO ONE has the right to kill me for his sensibilities toward any other nation.

Why shall not I take my religious possession through other community areas? Isn't they are supposed to be secular and respect the other religious event as well?

Its ridiculous to say that people instigate, I would say people do challenge the wrong and rightfully so !!

Where is the intolerance brigade?
 
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Evil is still an evil if it act evil for being challenged.

I am free to roam around anywhere in India, chant Pakistan/China/Uganda Murdabad and NO ONE has the right to kill me for his sensibilities toward any other nation.

Why shall not I take my religious possession through other community areas? Isn't they are supposed to be secular and respect the other religious event as well?

Its ridiculous to say that people instigate, I would say people do challenge the wrong and rightfully so !!

Where is the intolerance brigade?
And if the muslims living in that locality have a past memory of riots. Those poor chaps just get suspicious and provoked by Saffron flags. There is a history of riots in India. I think those poor chaps are not smart enough to understand us, but it is easier for us to understand them.
List of riots in India - Wikipedia -- link

We see tiranga rally attacked on Republic day, they see a ABVP bhagwa rally with Indian flags, What if this was the intention of the ABVP rally organizer?

I think most people are good or bad based on their character. Because when I talk to a muslim, I never sensed any general malice, they are just like us Hindus, with a different religion.
 
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And if the muslims in that locality have a past memory of riots. Those poor chaps just get suspicious and provoked by Saffron flags. There is a history of riots in India. I think those poor chaps are not smart enough to understand us, but it is easier for us to understand them.
List of riots in India - Wikipedia -- link

I think most people are good or bad based on their character. Because when I talk to a muslim, I never sensed any general malice, they are just like us Hindus with a different religion.

LOL..... still pretending to be a Hindu ? :devilish:

Why is it "easier for us" to understand them ? o_O ........ what makes "us" (I suppose you mean Hindus) so much superior ?


Also good to know that those who THREW ACID on Hindus and Shot them dead are "poor chaps" in your book. :LOL: This is the true "secular" language. Javed Akhtar and Amir Khusro agrees with you.
 
Allaudin Khilji was a "Poor chap" who killed, raped and murdered hindus. That is because its is easier for "us" to understand him than for him to understand "us". :giggle:
 
She was sold eight times by Isis & raped 100 times during 10 months by those "poor chaps".

This Yazidi girl who was repeatedly raped by Isis fighters set herself on fire to make herself unattractive to the men.

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But the good news is that we can understand these "poor chaps" much better than they can understand us.


Meanwhile,

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