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People are reading too much in what PLA is doing on our borders but they fail to understand the implications of PLA supporting a battle in favour of Pakistan. What happens when India joins battle when China tries to take over Taiwan? And in case of 2.5 front war, what happens to Pakistan and muslims of India? How will Hindus and non muslims react? In unarmed combat, I was taught to bring down the ratio by initially delivering blows to kill the enemy in case of being out numbered and thereafter concetrate on winning the battle. The man with most destrutive weapon was supposed to be taken out first followed by others.
I had stated very clearly a few days back that PLA is helping PA to relieve pressure on them on LOC by their increased activity on LAC with them. China knows very well what will happen to them if they actually support Pakistan in a battle. 13 countries have disputed borders witrh them. Chinese will get a bloody nose if they interfere between India-Pak war. The new world order after Covid19 has created a situation in which the world might drop china from UN and include Taiwan and Make India the fifth power to hold VETO in UNSC as a replacement to China.
What happens to china after that once it is thrown out of UN? They will disintegerate as a nation and those five nations which created China will be torn apart. The broken nations of China will bow to everyone in the world to sustain themselves. But what will happen to Pakistan? Any guess?
I had stated very clearly a few days back that PLA is helping PA to relieve pressure on them on LOC by their increased activity on LAC with them. China knows very well what will happen to them if they actually support Pakistan in a battle. 13 countries have disputed borders witrh them. Chinese will get a bloody nose if they interfere between India-Pak war. The new world order after Covid19 has created a situation in which the world might drop china from UN and include Taiwan and Make India the fifth power to hold VETO in UNSC as a replacement to China.
What happens to china after that once it is thrown out of UN? They will disintegerate as a nation and those five nations which created China will be torn apart. The broken nations of China will bow to everyone in the world to sustain themselves. But what will happen to Pakistan? Any guess?
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If China is thrown out of UN , Russia
Iran and Pakistan will also move out
Along with North Korea and Mongolia
The Nuclear weapons of the Entire World will be put on Hair Trigger Alert like in the Earlier Cold war of US and Soviet Union
First of all the world community should
Economically boycott and Sanction China
Then Give Diplomatic status and Recognition to Taiwan
These two steps will be enough to destroy Chinese Ego and pride
Why will Russia move out in support of China? Russia has a veto at UNSC, it needs the west to shore up its economy, especially gas hungry EU. Plus it has a long pending border issue with China, in the Siberian region. Walking out of the UN in support of China will be hara kiri for Russia.
Pakistan will have no choice but to support China, but here again, I suspect the Pak establishment will see the writing on the wall and will dump china to curry favour with the US. Pak needs a strong anchor to tag on to and an isolated China will be a weak country because what makes China strong is its economy, which is heavily dependant on the West.
Iran is a mystery, so no comments there.
Mongolia also has long standing issues with China and will never support China- I foresee Russia providing a security guarantee to Mongolia if ever such a situation comes to pass.
North Korea is a basket case, so frankly, who cares.
Nothing will happen, initially there will be some statements and then world will move on. Every country is only interested in their own benefit. So how is rest of the world benefiting from taiwan? UN is a joke who cares about it any way, only weak countries who are dependent on others should worry about it.
That will never happen, other than issuing few condemning statements things will remain same.
I think the Chinese are doing it because of all the attention on Taiwan and its WHO status. And with India getting the head seat at WHO, I suppose the Chinese were trying to send a message to not get ideas abotu Taiwan.
India to decide on Taiwan's observer status if put to vote by WHO: Sources
Taiwan is hoping that it would help Taipei regain the 'observer' status that it had for eight years between 2009 and 2016.
Personally, I don't think the Chinese will ever lift a finger in support of Pakistan by creating problems at the border.
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Nehru did the same by underestimating Chinese, and they made an example of him. He got humiliated in front of whole world and had to beg the Nixon to send their troops (and help).
We must not underestimate Chinese will to subdue and humiliate us again.
The 1962 war had nothing to do with Pakistan. The situation is not the same today.
Nixon?
kennedy. Pakistan is just a bonus. China alone has its own aims regarding India. Pakistanis won’t do a thing as long as Chinese don’t ask them to. They know it would be a suicide.
It’s very much understood now, both by us and Pakistanis. That’s why so much focus on joint air , land and naval exercises.
Recent border tensions are testament to that, also simultaneous rise of our homegrown Islamists.
During 62 war they had successfully cultivated and used our communists against us.
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With respect to politics, the Chinese have bigger headaches than India does. They are surrounded by 4 large countries after all, and even small countries like Vietnam and Philippines keeps giving them problems. And Taiwan is a perpetual monkey on their backs, and Hong Kong has climbed up their backs once again.
That's a lot of balancing they have to manage. They screw up once, they get screwed for decades. So the last thing they want is to add India to their list of problems.
Which is why they would rather prefer India is occupied with Pakistan instead. But that will fail if they start interfering in India's problems on behalf of Pakistan.
India of 1962 and India of 2020 are two very different nations. Nehru got humiliated as he did not listen to any of his military officers and took his decisions based on hunch rather than solid military advice.
There is even greater difference between China of 70s and China of today and the gulf is getting wider each day passing . Even US+EU combined (NATO alliance) can’t even think of direct confrontation with PRC without getting burnt in the process.
It’s hopelessly one sided match now between China and India. Our best bet will be a strong deterrence backed by WMDs and MAD doctrine similar to what Russia has against NATO.
True that Nehru never trusted his own Army due his narcissism and grandiose delusions. He never accepted rise of anyone else but himself. Even today the Nehru/Gandhi family’s following his footsteps. This is the reason Congress got divided again and again to current dysfunctional state.
I think that the recent dare of China to mess with India at LAC was to test the intention and response of India, based on which they will maneuver in the SCS and Taiwan against US. In fact, China is wondering how they will manage a two-front war - one against India and another against the US led coalition in SCS.
But when they saw the MKIs response to the three helicopters they sent in Ladhak and got a punch from Lieutenant in Sikkim, they quickly understood the mood of India.
It is a catch-22 situation for China now.
Chinese antics are more to remind about its nuisance value and not to toe any western line on COVID issue. I dont think taiwan has got to do any thing with this. India being on WHO should call the chinese bluff and vote for investigation into virus origin. If we back down they will think their bullying tactics at LAC was success.
They are also building Dam in occupied Indian territory in GB. It’s not just nuisance but provocation and defiance of our territorial sovereignty. They are trying to provoke us. But GOI seems fearful to even support Taiwan’s membership into WHO, despite Taiwan’s full support to us during China Virus19 crisis and other security issues.
China is a typical bully. Till you stand upto him, it will continue to bully you and just like a typical bully, it will not get into a fight to avoid getting a bloody nose because after that, noone will be scared of him and he will not be able to bully anyone.
Virus will get weakened like the SAR one.. Trials ongoing in India will not completed at-least by this year end, so by the time medicine comes to market, herd immunity will be developed in almost half of the population, rest of the cases will not be sever so that it would require medical attention because of attenuation of Virus. Please read Muller's ratchet..
Dear Admin, sorry for off topic.
Like the junior officer punched in the nose of PLA major.
Chinese mentality is like a street hawker, Grab the someone else's space which does not belong to it. Make a brawl or create a scene while claiming that the space is their's. If someone calls their bluff, then they back-out. If not, the space become theirs illegitimately.