LCA Tejas Mk1 & Mk1A - News and discussions
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"Hopefully, the first two of those are going to be delivered with weapons integration this September. We will do the contact signing next month,"
Okay, that's fine, but the question is, what are the capabilities they have now? Can they carry Jammer and fire Astra missiles (certified), or are tests still in progress?
Astra missile not yet tested . It was supposed to be in August but now pushed to September .
The EW suite has been validated AFAIK
Guys I have a doubt about the ferry range of tejas . I have seen multiple estimates about the range being 3200+ km or 1800 km but wherre does this figure come from like from the interview of the tejas pilot in singapore himself said that the ferry is 900 miles (1400 km) with 3 droptanks
The Mk1A does have an in-flight refueling probe, so range or flight hours will depend on driver fatigue. If needed, MKI can do a buddy refuel in an emergency.
Unfortunately, it continues to crawl at the slowest speed possible. I can understand the rage that certain def. enthusiasts continue to feel.
It's a clear incompetence, Tejas mk1a have been flying for quite some time, but they delayed the weapons integration, rudram & SAAW are not even in the line for integration,
Tejas mk2 rollout supposed to happen in 2025 but it was pushed back to 2026 now it got even delayed pushed to 2027, first flight by 2028, induction by 2035, when everyone is moved to 6th gen, we are going to outdated jets for the time period, Every projects runs on delay, i don't what the excuses ADA, drdo & HAL gonna give for the delay,
There are a multitude of factors that exist within government organizations that continue to plague their efficiency. A professional outlook and timely delivery of projects is one of them.
It is also long term planning that has hampered this project in particular. The HAL seems ill prepared to deliver the MK1A in time.
Can I just venture out and say something - Not making Kaveri a functioning engine for a 4th gen fighter has really come to bite the IAF in the *censored*.
I will have to blame the present MoD administration for the Kaveri issue. They have been in play long enough to realise the stakes. I will say no more as there exists a separate thread for this issue.
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The present government and the MOD haven't done anything to solve the crisis, weapons integration supposed to be happen in sept & delivered by sept as per def sec now it's gonna be October, and 2 more engines are going to delivered by year end, they haven't signed the engine deal, squadron are at all time low, mk2 rollout supposed to happen this year, now it's going to happen in 2027,
And we are supposed to fight 2 front war, when we don't have any Allies, does the ppl in charge even realise the threat we are facing, they aren't buying any aircrafts nor they are making any aircraft, we are cooking excellent recipes for disaster, they made Astra mk1 irrelevant for current conflict,
There's no accountability at all from ADA to drda and HAL,
I do not know how to console you. All I can say is that hopefully someone amongst the babus has a modicum of shame left and will do what is right. The defence minister must be aware of what is going on for sure and will have to share the blame. Accountability? That's too strong a word to be used in the world of babudom. Relax and leave this thread be for sometime.
The private players themselves are a whole another game. How do I even say that the pvt. sector could have done a better job here.
HAL to deliver 2 Tejas Mk-1A aircraft in October despite engine delays: Sources
Despite delays in engine deliveries from the US, sources said the first two LCA Mk-1A aircraft will be delivered by HAL in October.
" Meanwhile, the Mk-1A has completed weapons integration trials, including the firing of Astra and ASRAM missiles. The more advanced LCA Mk2 is scheduled for rollout in 2027, while 83 Mk-1A fighters are now expected by 2029, after a reported delay of four quarters."
HAL to start delivery of new Sukhoi-30s to IAF in April 2027
State-run plane maker Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) will begin delivering in April 2027 the new Sukhoi-30s ordered by the defence ministry for the IAF. | India News
www.hindustantimes.com
Maybe just an order of twelve is not enough. Food for thought. Considering how dire things can become this aspect can be explored.
The rate of delivery is what will matter the most. The entire squadron replacement scenario as of now hinges on this FA. Strategically speaking, this is an own goal by the MoD. However, there is absolutely no use raging against this issue. No, the Mk1A cannot be redesigned now. MoD will either stick to the FA or has to procure other FAs.
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how about making the LCA MK 2 even more delayed ?
make it a single engine stealth aircraft
but this time from ground up go for multiple engine options (like design multiple versions of same aircraft with GE414, indo french engine etc.
We already have AMCA , make one more variant with single engine.
Remember LCA MK 2 is supposed to defend Hasimara from J36 and j50 in 2040s
mean while order MK1A in more numbers and
get GE to deliver faster(probably impossible) won't a 400+ engine order to GE make them get faster?.
make it a single engine stealth aircraft
but this time from ground up go for multiple engine options (like design multiple versions of same aircraft with GE414, indo french engine etc.
We already have AMCA , make one more variant with single engine.
| Aspect | LCA Mk2 (Current) | LCA Mk2 as Stealth | Single-Engine AMCA |
|---|---|---|---|
| Prototype Expected | ~2027 | ~2032 | ~2030–31 |
| Production Start | ~2031 | ~2035+ | ~2034–36 |
| Cost | Lower | Higher | Medium |
| Stealth | Low | High | Medium–High |
| Risk | Low | Very High | Medium–High |
| Based On | Existing Tejas | Full redesign | New design from AMCA learnings |
Remember LCA MK 2 is supposed to defend Hasimara from J36 and j50 in 2040s
mean while order MK1A in more numbers and
get GE to deliver faster(probably impossible) won't a 400+ engine order to GE make them get faster?.
What you are asking for is infeasible as you've stated yourself. If you look at the political landscape, you have no leverage to get GE to deliver them faster. The orders for Mk1A are unlikely to increase.