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India might order 3 Additional Scorpene-class submarines for Indian Navy with 14 changes
Published May 6, 2018 | By admin
SOURCE: RAUNAK KUNDE / NEWS BEAT / ****



The government of India is giving serious thoughts to a Proposal offered by Mazagon Dock which wants to construct three additional Scorpene-class submarines for the Indian Navy after its French designers agreed to make 14 design changes in the three additional Scorpene-class submarines as asked by Indian Navy.

After Data Breach and also do to the advancement of technology, Indian Navy had proposed 14 changes in their Scorpene submarines which were approved by the Naval Group after consultation with their Engineering team and 14 Changes will be carried out on all existing Six Scorpene order under Project-75 tender in near future but also will be incorporated into Three additional Scorpene submarines if ordered by India .

Due to delays in Project-75-I tender, Mazagon Dock offered to construct 3 additional Scorpene which will be delivered from 2026 on wards at a year interval if approved by Government and it also informed that its existing facilities at the dock will become idle by 2020 after sixth and last Scorpene is built.
India might order 3 Additional Scorpene-class submarines for Indian Navy with 14 changes – Indian Defence Research Wing
Most sensible thing to do!!
 

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India might order 3 Additional Scorpene-class submarines for Indian Navy with 14 changes
Published May 6, 2018 | By admin
SOURCE: RAUNAK KUNDE / NEWS BEAT / ****



The government of India is giving serious thoughts to a Proposal offered by Mazagon Dock which wants to construct three additional Scorpene-class submarines for the Indian Navy after its French designers agreed to make 14 design changes in the three additional Scorpene-class submarines as asked by Indian Navy.

After Data Breach and also do to the advancement of technology, Indian Navy had proposed 14 changes in their Scorpene submarines which were approved by the Naval Group after consultation with their Engineering team and 14 Changes will be carried out on all existing Six Scorpene order under Project-75 tender in near future but also will be incorporated into Three additional Scorpene submarines if ordered by India .

Due to delays in Project-75-I tender, Mazagon Dock offered to construct 3 additional Scorpene which will be delivered from 2026 on wards at a year interval if approved by Government and it also informed that its existing facilities at the dock will become idle by 2020 after sixth and last Scorpene is built.
India might order 3 Additional Scorpene-class submarines for Indian Navy with 14 changes – Indian Defence Research Wing
I think it's the more reasonnable idea.
And a real advantage for Mazagon + Naval group to win the P75I tender with a derivative of shortfin Barracuda or a Scorpene XL.

Most sensible thing to do!!
what else?
 

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There was a news long back that torpedo were lagging ...

What happened after that ?


Did we order something ?
 

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Mazagon Dock to deliver second Scorpene class submarine by year end

After commissioning its first submarine, Kalvari, in December 2017, the company will deliver five other submarines to the Navy by 2022.

The Mazagon Dock Limited (MDL) will deliver its second submarine, Khanderi, to the Navy by the end of this year, senior MDL officials said on Thursday.



After commissioning its first submarine, Kalvari, in December 2017, the company will deliver five other submarines to the Navy by 2022.

According to the deal signed between Navy and MDL in October 2005, the company is required to build six scorpene class submarines — primarily diesel-electric attack submarines — in collaboration with M/s Naval group of France, under Project 75.

Senior MDL officials said that more than 50 per cent of its engineering content has been manufactured in India.

“We will deliver the second submarine to the Navy by the end of 2018. Most of its trials have been conducted. The third submarine is being readied for sea trials and will be commissioned by next year. We will deliver the remaining submarines in 2020, 2021 and 2022, respectively,” said Captain Rajiv Lath, Director of MDL submarine and heavy engineering.

The submarines entail advanced acoustic silencing techniques and produce lower levels of radiated noise.

Senior MDL officials said Khanderi is equipped with an integrated platform management system that will ensure better maneuvering of periphery and undertake multifarious types of missions, including anti-surface and anti-submarine warfare, intelligence gathering, mine laying as well as area surveillance up to six meters of the periphery.

“The total project cost of building the submarines is estimated to be Rs 30,000 crore. We aim to undertake more ship and submarine repair works, which will give MDL an average revenue of Rs 1,000 crore per vessel,” a MDL
official said.

Officials added that they are in talks with other countries to discuss possibilities of exporting underwater vessels and unmanned submarines. “Many foreign delegations from Europe and America have visited our docks, expressing interest in our ship-building capacity. We are eyeing many high value orders in the future,” the MDL official said.

The company also plans to use up to 40 acres at Nhava in Navi Mumbai to develop a ship yard, which will have facilities to build, repair and lift ships.

Mazagon Dock to deliver second Scorpene class submarine by year end
 

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Mazagon Dock to deliver second Scorpene class submarine by year end

After commissioning its first submarine, Kalvari, in December 2017, the company will deliver five other submarines to the Navy by 2022.

The Mazagon Dock Limited (MDL) will deliver its second submarine, Khanderi, to the Navy by the end of this year, senior MDL officials said on Thursday.



After commissioning its first submarine, Kalvari, in December 2017, the company will deliver five other submarines to the Navy by 2022.

According to the deal signed between Navy and MDL in October 2005, the company is required to build six scorpene class submarines — primarily diesel-electric attack submarines — in collaboration with M/s Naval group of France, under Project 75.

Senior MDL officials said that more than 50 per cent of its engineering content has been manufactured in India.

“We will deliver the second submarine to the Navy by the end of 2018. Most of its trials have been conducted. The third submarine is being readied for sea trials and will be commissioned by next year. We will deliver the remaining submarines in 2020, 2021 and 2022, respectively,” said Captain Rajiv Lath, Director of MDL submarine and heavy engineering.

The submarines entail advanced acoustic silencing techniques and produce lower levels of radiated noise.

Senior MDL officials said Khanderi is equipped with an integrated platform management system that will ensure better maneuvering of periphery and undertake multifarious types of missions, including anti-surface and anti-submarine warfare, intelligence gathering, mine laying as well as area surveillance up to six meters of the periphery.

“The total project cost of building the submarines is estimated to be Rs 30,000 crore. We aim to undertake more ship and submarine repair works, which will give MDL an average revenue of Rs 1,000 crore per vessel,” a MDL
official said.

Officials added that they are in talks with other countries to discuss possibilities of exporting underwater vessels and unmanned submarines. “Many foreign delegations from Europe and America have visited our docks, expressing interest in our ship-building capacity. We are eyeing many high value orders in the future,” the MDL official said.

The company also plans to use up to 40 acres at Nhava in Navi Mumbai to develop a ship yard, which will have facilities to build, repair and lift ships.

Mazagon Dock to deliver second Scorpene class submarine by year end
Good news.
It's time to order a follow on batch !
 

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India's 4th Scorpene submarine to touch waters on May 6
INS Vela was under construction at Mazagon Dock Limited, Mumbai
By Pradip R Sagar May 02, 2019 18:42 IST


In a bid strengthen Indian Navy's underwater capability, a fourth submarine of the Scorpene class is going to touch waters next week. Named as INS Vela, the submarine, under construction at Mazagon Dock Limited (MDL) Mumbai, has completed its out fittings and is going to be launched on May 6 in the Arabian Sea.

INS Kalveri, the first Scorpene was already inducted in 2017 while two other submarines—INS Khanderi and INS Karanj—are in the advanced stages to join the Navy fleet. The last two submarines—INS Vagir and INS Vagsheer—are in advanced stages of manufacturing on the assembly line at MDL.

The contract to build six submarines in India was signed in 2006 between the French firm Naval Group, formerly known as DCNS, and Mazgaon Dock Limited under Indian Navy’s $3 billion Project-75. The first submarine was scheduled to be delivered by 2012, but the project witnessed repeated delays.

"On May 6, the submarine will touch waters for the first time. Then the sea trials will begin," a Navy officer said.
The strength of the Indian Navy's submarine fleet has dwindled from a total of 21 submarines in the 1980s to 15 conventional submarines plus one homemade Arihant-class nuclear submarine and one Russian Akula-class submarine operating on lease. To make the situation worse, at a time, Indian navy is operating with half of its submarine fleet strength as most of the vessels are in the last leg of their active operational life and are on mid-life upgrades. The matter raises serious concerns when it is compared with neighbouring China, which has a strength of 65 subs.

The Navy needs at least 24 submarines to meet the 30 year submarine building plan, which was approved by the Cabinet Committee on Security in 1999, months after Kargil conflict. The approved acquisition programme was divided into three sections: first, six Scorpene submarines to be procured under the Project 75; second, additional six more submarines to be built under Project 75 India, and third, remaining 12 to be built indigenously.

The state-of-the-art technology utilised for construction of the Scorpene class submarines has ensured superior stealth features such as advanced acoustic silencing techniques, low radiated noise levels, hydro-dynamically optimised shape and the ability to launch a crippling attack on the enemy using precision guided weapons.

The Scorpene submarines can undertake multifarious types of missions i.e anti-surface warfare, anti-submarine warfare, intelligence gathering, mine laying, area surveillance etc. The submarine is designed to operate in all theatres, with means provided to ensure interoperability with other components of a Naval Task Force. It is a potent platform, marking a generational shift in submarine operations.

Besides enhancing Navy's underwater capabilities, the Scorpene class submarine project will be a big leap towards India's self reliance in the defence sector under the "Make in India'' initiative. The Navy got its last Indian made submarine in early 1990s when two HDW class submarines—INS Shalki and INS Shankul—were joined the fleet.

India got its first of the eight Foxtrot class submarines, also known as INS Kalvari, on December 8, 1967 when it was commissioned at then Soviet Union’s naval base Riga in Latvia.

The 66-metre long submarine is made up of a special kind of high-tensile steel which ensures that the warship can withstand high yield stress allowing it to dive deeper. The submarine can operate at a depth of 300 metres under water and travel 1,020 km underwater. It can carry 18 torpedoes and tube-launched anti-ship missiles underwater or from the surface.

India's 4th Scorpene submarine to touch waters on May 6
 

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India's 4th Scorpene submarine to touch waters on May 6
INS Vela was under construction at Mazagon Dock Limited, Mumbai
By Pradip R Sagar May 02, 2019 18:42 IST


In a bid strengthen Indian Navy's underwater capability, a fourth submarine of the Scorpene class is going to touch waters next week. Named as INS Vela, the submarine, under construction at Mazagon Dock Limited (MDL) Mumbai, has completed its out fittings and is going to be launched on May 6 in the Arabian Sea.

INS Kalveri, the first Scorpene was already inducted in 2017 while two other submarines—INS Khanderi and INS Karanj—are in the advanced stages to join the Navy fleet. The last two submarines—INS Vagir and INS Vagsheer—are in advanced stages of manufacturing on the assembly line at MDL.

The contract to build six submarines in India was signed in 2006 between the French firm Naval Group, formerly known as DCNS, and Mazgaon Dock Limited under Indian Navy’s $3 billion Project-75. The first submarine was scheduled to be delivered by 2012, but the project witnessed repeated delays.

"On May 6, the submarine will touch waters for the first time. Then the sea trials will begin," a Navy officer said.
The strength of the Indian Navy's submarine fleet has dwindled from a total of 21 submarines in the 1980s to 15 conventional submarines plus one homemade Arihant-class nuclear submarine and one Russian Akula-class submarine operating on lease. To make the situation worse, at a time, Indian navy is operating with half of its submarine fleet strength as most of the vessels are in the last leg of their active operational life and are on mid-life upgrades. The matter raises serious concerns when it is compared with neighbouring China, which has a strength of 65 subs.

The Navy needs at least 24 submarines to meet the 30 year submarine building plan, which was approved by the Cabinet Committee on Security in 1999, months after Kargil conflict. The approved acquisition programme was divided into three sections: first, six Scorpene submarines to be procured under the Project 75; second, additional six more submarines to be built under Project 75 India, and third, remaining 12 to be built indigenously.

The state-of-the-art technology utilised for construction of the Scorpene class submarines has ensured superior stealth features such as advanced acoustic silencing techniques, low radiated noise levels, hydro-dynamically optimised shape and the ability to launch a crippling attack on the enemy using precision guided weapons.

The Scorpene submarines can undertake multifarious types of missions i.e anti-surface warfare, anti-submarine warfare, intelligence gathering, mine laying, area surveillance etc. The submarine is designed to operate in all theatres, with means provided to ensure interoperability with other components of a Naval Task Force. It is a potent platform, marking a generational shift in submarine operations.

Besides enhancing Navy's underwater capabilities, the Scorpene class submarine project will be a big leap towards India's self reliance in the defence sector under the "Make in India'' initiative. The Navy got its last Indian made submarine in early 1990s when two HDW class submarines—INS Shalki and INS Shankul—were joined the fleet.

India got its first of the eight Foxtrot class submarines, also known as INS Kalvari, on December 8, 1967 when it was commissioned at then Soviet Union’s naval base Riga in Latvia.

The 66-metre long submarine is made up of a special kind of high-tensile steel which ensures that the warship can withstand high yield stress allowing it to dive deeper. The submarine can operate at a depth of 300 metres under water and travel 1,020 km underwater. It can carry 18 torpedoes and tube-launched anti-ship missiles underwater or from the surface.

India's 4th Scorpene submarine to touch waters on May 6
It's time to order a new batch, to avoid a skill loss in Mazagon dock.
 

Ankit Kumar

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It's time to order a new batch, to avoid a skill loss in Mazagon dock.
It would be criminal to not to use the follow on clause of this deal, especially when the next P75I deal is no where near sight, 90% of our submarines are vintage and Pakistan and even Bangladesh are acquiring more subs.

Another 6 Scorpene, getting out of production line every 9 months will mean we replace our oldest 2 Type 209 and the older Kilos easily.

I think 4 of our remaining kilos and 2 latest Type209 are to/already have underwent MLU, which should allow them to serve a bit more.
 

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India's 4th Scorpene submarine to touch waters on May 6
INS Vela was under construction at Mazagon Dock Limited, Mumbai
By Pradip R Sagar May 02, 2019 18:42 IST


In a bid strengthen Indian Navy's underwater capability, a fourth submarine of the Scorpene class is going to touch waters next week. Named as INS Vela, the submarine, under construction at Mazagon Dock Limited (MDL) Mumbai, has completed its out fittings and is going to be launched on May 6 in the Arabian Sea.

Idiots used the Foxtrot class INS Vela, instead of a Scorpene class.