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However, no contract will be signed because the deal will then go through a cycle of cost negotiations, like the time when Rafale was bought, and a final deal would be inked only after the next general elections slated for early next year.
 

DAC approves proposals for procurement of 26 Rafale Marine aircraft from France to boost Indian Navy’s operational capabilities​


Also clears acquisition of three additional Scorpene submarines under Buy (Indian) category​

Posted On: 13 JUL 2023 2:58PM by PIB Delhi

A meeting of the Defence Acquisition Council (DAC), held under the chairmanship of Raksha Mantri Shri Rajnath Singh, approved three proposals on July 13, 2023. The DAC granted Acceptance of Necessity (AoN) for procurement of 26 Rafale Marine aircraft along with associated ancillary equipment, weapons, simulator, spares, documentation, crew training and logistic support for the Indian Navy from the French Government based on Inter-Governmental Agreement (IGA). The price and other terms of purchase will be negotiated with the French Government after taking into account all relevant aspects, including comparative procurement price of similar aircraft by other countries. Further, integration of Indian designed equipment and establishment of Maintenance, Repair & Operations (MRO) Hub for various systems will be incorporated into the contract documents after due negotiations.

The DAC also granted the AoN for procurement of three additional Scorpene submarines under Buy (Indian) category which will be constructed by Mazagon Dock Shipbuilders Limited (MDL). The procurement of additional submarines, with higher indigenous content, will not only help in maintaining required force level and operational readiness of the Indian Navy, but also create significant employment opportunities in the domestic sector. It will also help the MDL in further enhancing its capability and expertise in submarine construction.

In addition, the DAC approved the proposal to lay down guidelines for achieving the desired indigenous content in all categories of capital acquisition cases. It will help in achieving ‘Aatmanirbharta’ in critical manufacturing technologies and life-cycle sustenance of defence platforms/equipment through indigenous manufacturing.
 
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France ready to offer naval SCALP missile with three Scorpene subs

Shishir Gupta

Apart from offer to build three more Scorpene class submarines for the Indian Navy at Mazagon Dockyards in Mumbai, France has also agreed to arm the air independent propulsion (AIP) equipped submarine with a naval cruise missile, which has double the range of SCALP air to ground missile carried by Indian Air Force (IAF) Rafale fighters.​
Upgraded from the SCALP missile, the naval version has a range of over 1000 kilometers when launched from a submarine and goes up to 1400 kilometers when launched from a warship. The turbojet powered cruise missile is sub-sonic and remains sub-surface before taking to the skies while approaching the target and then annihilating the potential enemy threat on ground. The missile is being used by the French Navy on board its frigates since 2017 and onboard its Barracuda class submarines from 2022. The missile can also be used on Scorpene class submarines after slight technical modifications of the torpedo tubes.​
While Indian Navy officials and diplomats have seen the performance of the Naval SCALP in France, it is understood that the missile manufacturer is willing to produce the cruise weapon in India under the “Make in India” route. The decision to build three more submarines at MDL has been taken as the entire process for Indian Navy’s Project 75 I will take a minimum of 15 years or more. The time delay can be estimated from the fact that the decision to make six Scorpene (Kalveri) class submarines was taken when Atal Bihari Vajapee was the Prime Minister and George Fernandes was the Defence Minister in 1999. The sixth of the submarines will be delivered to the Indian Navy in 2024, a quarter of a century after the 30 year submarine program was given approval by the Cabinet Committee on Security headed by PM Vajpayee.​
Given the rapid expansion of Chinese Navy which is expected to patrol Indian Ocean waters by 2025, the Indian Navy has no options but to counter the PLAN challenge in the Indo-Pacific as it cannot allow Beijing to dominate the sea lanes from Gulf of Aden to South China Sea with the help of India’s once upon a time arch rival Pakistan.​
It is quite evident from the content of bilateral ties with France that PM Modi visit will take the strategic relationship on a top gear with President Emmanuel Macron and his companies only waiting for India to ask for the technology the country wants.​
Politically what is quite interesting is that PM Modi has been offered a state visit by US and France on the eve of 2024 Lok Sabha general elections, while UPA Prime Minister Manmohan Singh was offered the same immediately after the Congress got 206 seats in 2009 Lok Sabha elections. That PM Modi has been feted by both President Joe Biden and will now be by President Macron, reveals the confidence they have on the Indian leader in 2024.​
Fact is that both Biden and Macron have close personal relations with PM Modi, who likes to bat straight without compromising on India’s strategic autonomy be it on Ukraine war or expansionist China. /end
 

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The Naval Group MDL is a private agreement. For the 36-plane Rafale programme, the Indian opposition tried to claim that it was Indian politicians who had imposed DRAL as Dassault's partner. To prove that there had been favouritism! So now we're wary and we don't include links with private agreements in a government agreement.
 
The Naval Group MDL is a private agreement. For the 36-plane Rafale programme, the Indian opposition tried to claim that it was Indian politicians who had imposed DRAL as Dassault's partner. To prove that there had been favouritism! So now we're wary and we don't include links with private agreements in a government agreement.
You made way for the allegation by choosing incompetent and corny capitalist as your partner. That's no one else's fault.

Naval Group got the follow-on order just as they complete the original by their competency in delivering what they agreed. Be it offset obligations or working on further improvements like Indian AIP.

Fear of allegations is the only reason there is no follow on Rafale order from airforce. I dont think Dassualt can ever deliver on the offets they agreed upon.
 
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You made way for the allegation by choosing incompetent and corny capitalist as your partner. That's no one else's fault.

Naval Group got the follow-on order just as they complete the original by their competency in delivering what they agreed. Be it offset obligations or working on further improvements like Indian AIP.

Fear of allegations is the only reason there is no follow on Rafale order from airforce. I dont think Dassualt can ever deliver on the offets they agreed upon.
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To pass for an idiot in the eyes of an imbecile is the delight of a gourmet. (Georges COURTELINE)