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JIYO PARSI - Asking Parsis to Have More Kids, in the Most Regressive and Patriarchal Way
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No I don't want to here.
It was simply a one-off insight into the working of the Parsi mind. Linked to what we are discussing here, and what we discuss elsewhere.
There is nothing to debate on that really.
Its one Parsi informing two Hindus about how his people tick. Regardless of whether its warranted or not.
Cheers, Doc
Hindus are basically Very Secular and Accomdative people
That is why neither parsis nor Jews have ever felt unsafe in India
And Muslims population has grown by LEAPS and Bounds after 1947
BUT when Hindus saw that their Good nature is being taken for granted and
Minorities especially Muslims are being appeased they started reacting
The rise of BJP represents the Counter reaction to Minorities appeasement
Its called Artificially created Genetic splicing of chromosomes, you know like add subunit 21 of the Y- arm , add 3/4th X etc. .
@vsdoc Look at this news ; Iranians converting to Christianity
And you were EXPECTING them to Revert to Zorastrianism
'Thousands' of Iranians claiming asylum in Europe as converts to Christianity - World Watch Monitor
And you were EXPECTING them to Revert to Zorastrianism
'Thousands' of Iranians claiming asylum in Europe as converts to Christianity - World Watch Monitor
How does a few thousand political refugees converting fir convenience make a difference to a nation of 90 million, of which 65 odd are of Persian ethnicity.
You do realise that Iran today, 1300 years post Islam, is a hodgepodge of bloodlines, races and ethnicities?
The vast majority, including a large chunk of Iraq, Syria, Jordan, Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan, and Uzbekistan are all of Zoroastrian lineage.
In terms of potential reverts, do the math.
When it comes to this region of the world, it takes just a spark. One little snowball.
The changes then escalate unbelievably rapidly. History is proof of that.
You do not need the validation of Iranian Shia clerics saying that today worldwide and in Iran, Zoroastrianism is the biggest threat to Shia Islam.
I would go one further. Once the reversion to Zoroastrianism snowballs in the strife torm failed states of the region, Zoroastrianism will be the biggest existential threat to Sunni Islam in the region.
Old scores need to be settled.
Cheers, Doc
You really must stop drinking Nilgiri black at night . For that matter ,it'd be better if you gave up Nilgiri black altogether.
The difference between Hinduism and Zoroastrianism, and a major factor in why Hinduism survived the onslaught, is that unlike Zoroastrianism, Hinduism was always a decentralized fragmented entity. Aside from the base polytheist theology being completely at odds and irreconcilable to a montheist one.
But that for Zoroastrianism is a double edged sword, it's central power core structure and homogeneous social construct would fall together. All at once. Fairly rapidly when the momentum built up.
But it would also ride back up in a similar manner.
Cheers, Doc
Please reconcile the dichotomy of Zorastrianisation of a mixed race in Iran( if & when it happens ) with your own notions of racial purity of the Parsis in India & the handful of impoverished Zorastrians who've withstood the onslaught through the ages in Iran.
It is nice to see you POURING out your HEART
But if you USE your Mind ; Shia Iran is at the Forefront of the Conflict Between
Shia and Sunnis ; where the Saudis lead the Sunnis
Now if you think that Iranian Shias would DUMP Islam altogether and Revert back to Zorastrianism All Sunnis would Die of Laughter
You mean to say that the 1400 year Conflict between Shias and Sunnis amounts to Nothing
Zoroastrianism as a religion of the chosen (blood) and Zoroastrianism as the state religion of a world superpower controlling land and people of more than half the civilized world for two millennia are two separate entities.
I belong to the former. As do the Persian Zoroastrians still in Iran.
The Kurds lay claim to that too, because many sources claim that Zarathushtra was a Kurd.
Some claim that Zarathushtra was born in the mountains of present day north-western Afghanistan.
Azeris too, as Azerbaijan is actually called the Land of Fire.
But when you talk about the larger Persian Empire, expanding north south east and west, you see people who have lived with Zoroastrianism as the state religion for centuries, millennia even. Who have practiced Zoroastrianism as cultural Zoroastrians and still retain the cultural vestiges as largely Muslim (in some rare cases, Christian) people today.
If and when these revert, Zoroastrianism would be once more a major world religion, not unlike the top 4 in numbers. And land.
Even if not (or until they do or might), the movement has already begun among those who were Zoroastrian by blood. The Persians and the Kurds. And it is interesting to note that while the Persians are Shia, the Kurds are largely hardcore Sunni.
The political and theological influence that Iran is trying to exert all around in the Middle East and our friendly neighbor (and pretty successfully) based on their pretty radical Velayat e Faqih doctrine is not just sectarian but hugely racial and blood driven. Old equations being reasserted, in modern times.
Zoroastrianism did not get ousted from that land and those people without a fight then.
It will not reassert itself there to a position of preeminence without a fight now. The mullas are not simply going to bend over.
I see two hugely promising fights developing in the region individually at the current point in time.
The movement for Greater Kurdistan that involves soil and peoples of northern Iraq, western Iran, eastern Turkey and north eastern Syria, extending to parts of Jordan. No one currently knows how it is going to look when the dust finally settles. But Zoroastrianism has already taken root there. And the fight is ongoing in full earnest and ferocity.
The other is for the heart of Iran. Two Persian springs in 5 years. The Shah moving close to nationalist Pan Persianism before the overthrow. Increasing disenchantment with Islam and the mullocracy among the youth and seniors alike. And the state forces and proxies spread thin across the middle east.
Things look ripe for a revolution. Zoroastrian style.
Now some time in the future, does this mean a majority of Iran or only a significant but powerful minority, I do not know. But if it is a majority, then Islam will eventually die off if not driven out from Iran. And there could well be joining of forces with the pan Kurds.
The possibilities following on from there are endless.
No wonder the Arabs are already shitting sand bricks.
Cheers, Doc
It is nice to see you POURING out your HEART
But if you USE your Mind ; Shia Iran is at the Forefront of the Conflict Between
Shia and Sunnis ; where the Saudis lead the Sunnis
Now if you think that Iranian Shias would DUMP Islam altogether and Revert back to Zorastrianism All Sunnis would Die of Laughter
You mean to say that the 1400 year Conflict between Shias and Sunnis amounts to Nothing
Sigh.
So clueless.
Cheers, Doc
You ought to write historical fiction and alternate reality .I'm absolutely certain about this . And I'd venture my neck on this one that there's absolute unanimity on this too out here . Correct me if I'm wrong .
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Nope. Dickraas are never foxes.Asses perhaps ( they're solitary animals too ) .Never foxes or hyenas.The FOX is also a Solitary animal