Israel, US Strike Iran After Weeks Of Warning, Explosions Heard In Tehran

Nah, they don't always make a distinction between terrorists and civilians. They shot "protesters."
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The US and India converge on some aspects and diverge on others. Russia and Israel do not have enmity with each other, but their interests converge or diverge too. It's not enough to do something as ridiculous as the Hamas attack. Israel has far more real enemies.
Sure it is if it draws the US away from Ukraine.

 
A "just yuhi" question.. How about following out a mountain range and stuffing it, turning it into an artillery/rocket fortress?
That's what we're doing right across our stretch of the LAC though you won't see much of information on it in the public domain.

To what extent has it been accomplished & whether it's similar to Vietnamese plans of tunneling underground creating vast subterranean interconnected cities or something like what Hamas set up in Gaza & Iran has created on a gargantuan scale which is only now coming to light is unknown for obvious reasons .
 


Hmm. Ever seriously thought of relocating Paddy ? Maybe to France or Oz or NZ , heck even the US or Canada heck even India as most backpackers from the UK & retirees have living on the cheap in Goa for years at end.

Living standards are pretty affordable you know especially in winters which many of the aforementioned categories can't afford back home in the UK .

You could even team up with catlick paddy missionaries here or NGOs catering to destitute children & indulge in yours & their favourite hobby of bumming kids.

As an old pal I'm seriously advising you to consider it. I meant relocation not bumming underaged kids.
 
That's what we're doing right across our stretch of the LAC though you won't see much of information on it in the public domain.

To what extent has it been accomplished & whether it's similar to Vietnamese plans of tunneling underground creating vast subterranean interconnected cities or something like what Hamas set up in Gaza & Iran has created on a gargantuan scale which is only now coming to light is unknown for obvious reasons .

News reports say those tunnels are for ammo storage. Much of the infra building effort along the LAC is aimed at providing secure last mile connectivity to the armed forces.

I doubt we're building hardened u/g fighter hangars or missile depots. Heck, even our biggest airbases don't have underground hangars a la Ramstein AB.

They have only recently started getting basic infra like NG-HAS and perimeter defence systems via Tata et all. That too after the Pathankot AB attack which was a rude shock to the IAF.
 
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News reports say those tunnels are for ammo storage. Much of the infra building effort along the LAC is aimed at providing secure last mile connectivity to the armed forces.

I doubt we're building hardened u/g fighter hangars or missile depots. Heck, even our biggest airbases don't have underground hangars a la Ramstein AB.

They have only recently started getting basic infra like NG-HAS and perimeter defence systems via Tata et all. That too after the Pathankot AB attack which was a rude shock to the IAF.
Then we're phucked. Once again all these points were raised on the Indo China War Gaming Thread even before the war in Ukraine broke out what to speak of what's transpired or is transpiring in the ME post 7/10 .

As I've remarked before this government isn't serious about defence & that apathy stems from the very top.
 
Then we're phucked. Once again all these points were raised on the Indo China War Gaming Thread even before the war in Ukraine broke out what to speak of what's transpired or is transpiring in the ME post 7/10 .
We are doing plenty of stuff that the outside world doesn't know or needs to know.
As I've remarked before this government isn't serious about defence & that apathy stems from the very top.
Nah. This is by far the best government we have had for enhancing our national security. There are plenty of area in which this gov. has acted slow but eventually got it right.
 
Then we're phucked. Once again all these points were raised on the Indo China War Gaming Thread even before the war in Ukraine broke out what to speak of what's transpired or is transpiring in the ME post 7/10

Tbh, this GoI has almost single-handedly built up the border infra that we have today along the LAC. IAF airfield infra has also been upgraded + dedicated Garud SF units trained in asset protection/airfield security roles have been raised.

But we don't yet have a fortress airbase like Ramstein or Taiwan's Chaishan AB which is located within a hollowed out mountain which is what Subgradewalker was asking about.

The IAF seems to be placing its bets on rapid dispersal tactics and IACCS to defend against massive missile barrages from the PLA.
 
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Sure it is if it draws the US away from Ukraine.


The relationship broke after the fall of Syria. As I said the Israelis screwed the Russians over out of Syria.
 
We are doing plenty of stuff that the outside world doesn't know or needs to know.
I'm going by what's in the public domain. Beyond that my guess is as good as yours.
Nah. This is by far the best government we have had for enhancing our national security. There are plenty of area in which this gov. has acted slow but eventually got it right.
Acted slow is being charitable. Most of what we're witnessing unfold except the drone warfare part was something I hinted at before & after the war in Ukraine broke out.

Here I'm referring especially to the missile barrages unleashed by Russia in Ukraine as well as Iran in the ME as well as the air power brought to bear by Israel & the US .

Make the necessary replacements in the above matrix with India & China & do let me know how are we going to counter Chinese air power, their missile barrages & drone warfare.

In addition please also consider the inventories they hold as well as their production capacities in peace & war time. Compare it to ours & do let us know how do you propose we stop it .

Mind you they've a lot up their sleeves viz space based ISR, cyber capabilities, networked IADS & BMD, etc .

Now while India's no Ukraine or Iran, China's definitely China . Besides if you're actually comparing this government to the previous one, where hardly any decisions were taken it's a very low bar .

Moreover in St Antony's case he didn't know whom to trust since South Block was crawling with dalals, he took the path of least resistance & opted not to take any decision whatsoever .

The logjam over the MMRCA tender is a good case in point wherein Dassault backed away from signing the deal.

In spite of all this, corruption continued as the Agusta Westland deal & later the Pilatus deal was exposed . There were others as well which weren't quite highlighted.
 
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Tbh, this GoI has almost single-handedly built up the border infra that we have today along the LAC. IAF airfield infra has also been upgraded + dedicated Garud SF units trained in asset protection/airfield security roles have been raised.

But we don't yet have a fortress airbase like Ramstein or Taiwan's Chaishan AB which is located within a hollowed out mountain which is what Subgradewalker was asking about.

The IAF seems to be placing its bets on rapid dispersal tactics and IACCS to defend against massive missile barrages from the PLA.

Um, yes, we have undergound bunkers for personnel in large numbers along the LAC, not just ammo.

But dispersal of aerial assets is better than going underground. We are building 28 ELFs to that effect.

The Chinese have to go underground due to compulsion not choice, that's gonna be their graves. It doesn't work as Iran is finding out now.
 
Iran launched drone strikes and missiles of an unknown type against a US base in Bahrain. Iran also launched ballistic missiles against the Prince Sultan Air Base in Saudi Arabia. Iranian missile strikes were recorded at the US Ali al-Salam Air Base in Kuwait. At the end of the video, an Iranian drone strike on an airport in the United Arab Emirates and photos of the aftermath of Iran's strikes against the US Al-Dhafra Air Base are included.

 
Tbh, this GoI has almost single-handedly built up the border infra that we have today along the LAC. IAF airfield infra has also been upgraded + dedicated Garud SF units trained in asset protection/airfield security roles have been raised.
Work began during the UPA era & like everything in that era it was poorly executed improperly funded etc.

Yes much of the infrastructure we see today is due to this government. Credit where credit is due. But without corresponding investment in items discussed before it's a classic case of well begun is half done.
But we don't yet have a fortress airbase like Ramstein or Taiwan's Chaishan AB which is located within a hollowed out mountain which is what Subgradewalker was asking about.
I've no clue if we do though I can tell you some of our missile depots , SAMs , C&C are within such mountains across the LAC .
The IAF seems to be placing its bets on rapid dispersal tactics and IACCS to defend against massive missile barrages from the PLA.
Rapid dispersal tactics are WW-2 tactics . Land in the middle of nowhere & camouflage the plane. In this day & age of 24x7 satellite coverage including SAR , TI , IR & Hyperspectral Imaging & so on how effective are such methods going to be is anyone's guess.

IACCS also requires redundancy , multiple mfg facilities & an inventory running into thousands of missiles. Do you see any of this happening ?
 
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