INS Vikrant (IAC1) & INS Vikramaditya - News & Discussions

This has less to do with our resources more to do with the kind of sick defensive mindset our babus in the foreign office & China Study Group have long been espousing failing to see Doklam or even Galwan till it smacked them in their noses.

The idea being if we militarise the A&N the Chinese would react adversely & probably set up a base in the Coco Islands of Myanmar or the Chittagong port . Well , they seem to be in the process of doing so anyway or at least they're trying their best & utilising whatever they can .

It's only after that we'd wake up . There was talk of building a deep sea transhipment harbour in the A&N recently including converting it into a tourist hub . Let's see if an upgradation of defense infrastructure will accompany or follow it .

Just my 2 cents.
Tbh, having a trans-shipment port is a pretty good development. China so far has attacked us over bits of land that hold no economic value. Attacking a trans-shipment port generating trade and revenue would be a significant escalation.
 
According to Admiral R. Hari Kumar, Chief of Staff of the Indian Navy, the construction of a new aircraft carrier of the same type as INS Vikrant with minor modifications could be completed in 8 years, allowing to then switch to a format with 3 aircraft carriers. At the same time, the development of the replacement for INS Vikramaditya, which will leave the service by 2040, will be launched, and will probably relate to a new model of aircraft carrier this time equipped with catapults and electromagnetic arresting strands , so as to spread the development costs but also the technological risks, while maintaining the format targeted by the Indian naval aviation.

 
According to Admiral R. Hari Kumar, Chief of Staff of the Indian Navy, the construction of a new aircraft carrier of the same type as INS Vikrant with minor modifications could be completed in 8 years, allowing to then switch to a format with 3 aircraft carriers. At the same time, the development of the replacement for INS Vikramaditya, which will leave the service by 2040, will be launched, and will probably relate to a new model of aircraft carrier this time equipped with catapults and electromagnetic arresting strands , so as to spread the development costs but also the technological risks, while maintaining the format targeted by the Indian naval aviation.

One of those minor upgrades better be wider lifts, ideally wide enough for two aircraft and jet blast deflectors to improve launch rate. Why doesn't IN already operate like this? Seems like a missed opportunity.
 
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Modest defence budget this year. Government prefers to spend money on infra. As long as we see good RoI, the defence budget can go up and we can have as many CVs as we want.
These procurements are for the future i.e beyond 2030 whereas our biggest security nightmare may well unfold before or around 2030.

While the IN is better placed as compared to it's sister services , I'd still say we need at least 6 P-8i's if not more especially since the additional Scorpenes won't come before 2030 nor would the Project -75 (I) , more Sea Guardians , hopefully comprehensive SOSUS sensors / hydrophones linked up to the US Japan systems apart from better sharing of ISR between us , definitely the 26 MRCBF , MCMV & Fleet Support Ships are few vital requirements which come top of the mind .

The rest is WiP.
 
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These procurements are for the future i.e beyond 2030 whereas our biggest security nightmare may well unfold before or around 2030.

While the IN is better placed as compared to it's sister services , I'd still say we need at least 6 P-8i's if not more especially since the additional Scorpenes won't come before 2030 nor would the Project -75 (I) , more Sea Guardians , hopefully comprehensive SOSUS sensors / hydrophones linked up to the US Japan systems apart from better sharing of ISR between us , definitely the 26 MRCBF , MCMV & Fleet Support Ships are few vital requirements which come top of the mind .

The rest is WiP.
I think the government is betting on not having a major conflict with China for the coming decade. That's my assumption considering their lack of urgency in upgrading IAF fleet for example. China is too bogged down in the Pacific at the moment. That should be their main focus for the time being. It would be a nightmare if Pakistan was in a strong position economically with an appetite for conflict. Thankfully for us, that's not the case.

I would be very surprised if we saw any meaningful progress regarding IAC2 within the next 5 years. Like you said; better ASW capability, long range air launched torpedoes and better ISR integration with Japan and the US is the best card we can play for now.

The time is ripe for us steal a chunk of China's manufacturing exports. That will deal a bigger blow to them more than any carrier ever could.
 
Modest defence budget this year. Government prefers to spend money on infra. As long as we see good RoI, the defence budget can go up and we can have as many CVs as we want.
IAF & IN unable to spend 48% & 44% of their CAPEX till 1st Feb.

Nothing wrong in not a big increase in defence budget if the forces continuously fail to fully exploit the allocated resources.
 
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The time is ripe for us steal a chunk of China's manufacturing exports
I have been to industry connects with US companies, and the media won't quote this but they have openly showed their disconnect with the local/state level government.

Paper work regarding water & electricity are even blocked by state governments in India. The only way we steal China's manufacturing is that we totally abolish/restrict powers of state & local level governments.

A certain multi national IT company even revealed that for setting up a simple office space in Patna , they were harrassed so much so that they are now focusing on other locations.
 
I think the government is betting on not having a major conflict with China for the coming decade. That's my assumption considering their lack of urgency in upgrading IAF fleet for example. China is too bogged down in the Pacific at the moment. That should be their main focus for the time being. It would be a nightmare if Pakistan was in a strong position economically with an appetite for conflict. Thankfully for us, that's not the case.

What has deterred China is the 2 MSCs we have raised. Our navy is pretty soon gonna hit the "we are screwed" phase, the air force is already there, but the army's 2 strike corps and the massive border infrastructure drive has allowed India to have the forces necessary to invade large parts of Tibet. The Chinese cannot show off a border victory if we also take their land. We have also taken a significant technological lead on the ground in some areas with emergency imports, like long range ATGMs, swarm drones, infantry weapons and precision artillery.

Another factor that has played a significant part is allowing private sector to manufacture ammunition.

I had always said we needed until 2023 to be ready, and we finally are. And the modernised army has served as enough of a deterrence. It's very difficult to see a Sino-India war this decade because of the army.
 
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IAF & IN unable to spend 48% & 44% of their CAPEX till 1st Feb.

Nothing wrong in not a big increase in defence budget if the forces continuously fail to fully exploit the allocated resources.

It's a one-off situation. We were gonna pay 28k Cr to the Russians and that didn't pan out, either due to the failure in setting up a payment mechanism or the war itself. So the money was going towards signed contracts.