Indian Ballistic Missile Defence Programme - Updates and Discussions

South block said:
Almost all these cruise missile interception by MANPADS happened during day light for obvious reasons......Stealth shaping is the way forward & speed..... What we really need to do is massive investment in SRBM like Iskander, Lora, PrSM type Systems.
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Subsonic CM are cheaper and provide much needed mass. Pvt cos like DG Aero are coming up with so many small TF/TJ engines which could power a whole new gen of small CMs in the JASSM, Spear-3 mould. We have a lot of ongoing programs for MLRS/BMs anyway.
 
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In which case our ITCM Nirbhay , while it'd have greater chances of success against Paxtan will have limited utility against the Chinese.

Whereas previously there were a few here including myself arguing for fast tracking the development of various iterations of the Nirbhay viz the Air, Sea & Undersea versions of it apart from the land version to be inducted in the thousands in view of our upcoming war against China.

Could that be the reason we haven't seen much activity on that front? Prima facie it would seem so.

Looks like we need to focus more on expediting final certification of the STAR missile ASAP as well as it's air launched version for the royalties we pay Russia for the Brahmos is simply too high rendering huge quantities unaffordable apart from the dependencies it creates on them for the RAMJET engine which is going to bite us in conflict time.

Unfortunately this administration is heavily into penny pinching & extremely stingy when it comes to spending on defence procurement. What we're seeing now vis a vis a supplementary budget of ~ 50,000 cr is merely sum allocated to replenish stocks used in the current conflict apart from limited augmentation.
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Imo we still need subsonic cruise missiles. Subsonic cruise missiles, Pralays and Brahmos can be launched together to achieve saturation. Launching a lot of subsonic cruise missiles especially if they are stealthy still poses problems for enemy AD.
South block said:
Almost all these cruise missile interception by MANPADS happened during day light for obvious reasons......Stealth shaping is the way forward & speed..... What we really need to do is massive investment in SRBM like Iskander, Lora, PrSM type Systems.
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Won't our Pralay outclass Iskander?
 
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Not our BMD related but posting it here.

Does anyone know AD2's dimensions?
I wonder, if it's designed with UVLS in mind or not.
 

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SM3 has like 4 stages,
Booster
1st stage
2nd stage
Liquid stage KV (+DACS)

AD2
1st stage
2nd stage
Liquid KV
Though I don't know the dimensions.
It Can't be more than 1m> diameter?
(Hopefully, 600mm ish)
AD-1 is 500-600mm ish at its booster.
BMD Destroyers will definitely be 13-14k ton displacement ships.
We need 6 ships minimum. 8 preferred.
 
Thunder said:
SM3 has like 4 stages,
Booster
1st stage
2nd stage
Liquid stage KV (+DACS)

AD2
1st stage
2nd stage
Liquid KV
Though I don't know the dimensions.
It Can't be more than 1m> diameter?
(Hopefully, 600mm ish)
AD-1 is 500-600mm ish at its booster.
BMD Destroyers will definitely be 13-14k ton displacement ships.
We need 6 ships minimum. 8 preferred.
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For AD2 if chart comparing both missiles has right ratio of sizes of both ad1 and ad2.
Can we can expect ad2 to have diameter between 0.55m-0.6m and length of~8.5m.
Slightly longer and slightly narrower than standard brahmos.
 
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Not sure if anyone has posted this earlier but here we go
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BEYOND BALLISTICS: CRUISE MISSILE DEFENCE
The Threat: Low-flying, nuke-tipped cruise missiles
• XRSAM - Long-range Surface-to-Air (350 km range against cruise missiles)
• BARAK-8 - Naval Defence (India-Israel Joint Venture)
• MODIFIED AAD - Adapted for cruise interception


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THE DOUBLE-TIERED DEFENCE ARCHITECTURE

TIER 1 : EXO-ATMOSPHERIC
50-80 km (Edge of Space)

Interceptor PAD/PDV
Goal : Destroy before re-enty

TIER 2 : ENDO-ATMOSPHERIC
15-30 km

Interceptor AAD
Goal : The Final Line (???/Leakage)

SYSTEM RELIABILITY GOAL : 99.8% HIT PROBABILITY.


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TECH SPEC
• ROLE : Low Altitude Interceptor (Endo-atmospheric)
• INTERCEPT ALTITUDE : 15-30 km
• SPEED : Mach 4 5
• PROFILE : 7.5m Tall / *0 5m Diameter (420mm to be exact)
• AGILITY : High-stress terminal manoeuvring

https://twitter.com/x/status/2025120696511463898
 
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Indian Missile Defence (Exo) & ASAT Capability
MissileAltitudeRange
ASAT1000 km230 km
AD-2320 km70 km
PDV130 km?? (30 km maybe*)
AD-180 km20 km
AAD?? (30 km**)10 km

* Based on rough eyeballing the image
** Based on my previous post where the range was confirmed
 
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Indian Missile Defence (Exo) & ASAT Capability
MissileAltitudeRange
ASAT1000 km230 km
AD-2320 km70 km
PDV130 km?? (30 km maybe*)
AD-180 km20 km
AAD?? (30 km**)10 km

* Based on rough eyeballing the image
** Based on my previous post where the range was confirmed
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It's not range, it's the protected area footprint, around the missile launcher
 
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