India–United Kingdom relations : Updates

Gautam

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But sometimes it is necessary to pretend to have an opinion in order to polish the raw turd alluded to earlier. And it is also helpful for a few of your idiots, e.g. _Anonymous_, Thardoor etc. to complain about the polishing in order to make our opinion seem genuine.

So now that we're clear on everyone's role in this game, can we move along please?
If your opportunistic politicians poking their nose here seems like a pretension to appease the Pakistanis in UK(for votes I imagine), isn't it quite normal to expect a similar pretension from the Indian govt. ?

Why is it wrong when we do it ? Again it was an opinion piece in the media. I am not sure the GoI even reacted to it at all. Why does this bother you so much ?
 

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If your opportunistic politicians poking their nose here seems like a pretension to appease the Pakistanis in UK(for votes I imagine), isn't it quite normal to expect a similar pretension from the Indian govt. ?

Why is it wrong when we do it ? Again it was an opinion piece in the media. I am not sure the GoI even reacted to it at all. Why does this bother you so much ?
So long as we're clear that it's all pretend... except for _Anonymous_, he likely still thinks it's real, along with Santa.
 

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Could you for once do something without trying to drag us into it? Because it doesn't help either of us.

Did you read the article I posted , Paddy ? Of course, yes. Did you properly comprehend what was written there? Of course, no.

Well that's a big pile of BS. Cholas, Anti-Sikh riots, multi-sectarian massacres, caste system, widow-burning..... It's not like the local populations in Iraq, Libya and Syria were having a picnic under Saddam, Gaddafi and Assad either.

Bottom line, stop trying to drag us into it. And that applies to Pakistan as well as India. This is your problem, settle it with a good old fashion war and stop behaving like 12 y/os and getting your parents involved.

This isn't about what happened in the past. That's brought about by the author to underline his point about the present. That of the UK - A third rate & ever declining power unlike the French still thinks of itself as A colonial master of India and thinks it owns this narrative.

Why else would they say something in private to us & do the opposite in public. This has A history. Robin Cook , the then FS under A newly constituted "Tiny " Blair government publically declared in 1997 as soon as the government there assumed office that Britain had to be actively involved in solving the Kashmir dispute coz being the former colonial power it was A moral obligation, thereby implying they would mediate between India & Pakistan to the delight of the latter only to be told by I K Gujral our then PM that we don't want mediation especially by A third rate power like Britain, A statement he denied making subsequently. But the message went home. Subsequently, the Brits like all bullies who are tamed after having received a kick in between their legs on either ends , backed off.

So, you see , like most of your current policies viz Brekshit, this one too is driven by sentiment not cold calculation. Your establishment still harbours delusions of grandeur. Like shopkeeping, which is in your blood, you don't want to invest. You merely want to cash in. While this approach worked for you in the past, it will yield diminishing returns going ahead. Something your establishment realises but doesn't relish nor acknowledge. Good luck with reverting to what you were. A cold damp gloomy decrepit isolated island with A hoary past and no future. Fit for cultivating potatoes.
 

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Look, everyone knows that when you interfere with the geopolitical structure you create an unpolished turd, which upsets the recipient of said turd, which in this case is Pakistan. Now if the US and UK really had an opinion, one of two things would happen: Either you would be hit by a raft of crippling economic sanctions; Or a raft of cruise missiles and have many aircraft carriers parked off your coast. Since neither of these two things has happened, rest assured that we don't really have an opinion. But sometimes it is necessary to pretend to have an opinion in order to polish the raw turd alluded to earlier. And it is also helpful for a few of your idiots, e.g. _Anonymous_, Thardoor etc. to complain about the polishing in order to make our opinion seem genuine and improve the saleability of said turd..

So now that we're clear on everyone's role in this game, can we move along please?
As I remarked in my previous post. Delusions of grandeur are hard to let go . The UK couldn't do squat to Iran when they seized your ship & you're talking of posting carriers off India's coastline to bomb us. The Iranians cuckolded you and all you could do was grin & bear it. I suspect part of you relishes being cuckolded.Then there's North Korea or HK where the Chinese are cuckolding you and all you can do is be indignant in private and smile A causal smile in public.I'm more than convinced Britain secretly loves being cuckolded.

Go smell the coffee, old fart. The US & UK did try something to that effect in 1971 only to scoot with their tail between their legs.

Task Force 74 - Wikipedia

https://www.thedailystar.net/news/us-fleet-in-bay-of-bengal-a-game-of-deception

If you couldn't browbeat us then when we were weak what makes you think you can do so now?

P. S - nice to note your obsession with scat. Like being cuckolded this seems to be your fetish.
 

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So long as we're clear that it's all pretend... except for _Anonymous_, he likely still thinks it's real, along with Santa.
It's not pretence, Paddy you sick old fart. It's all very real. The only people pretending it is so, are your foggy old fools in the foreign Office.
 
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As I remarked in my previous post. Delusions of grandeur are hard to let go . The UK couldn't do squat to Iran when they seized your ship & you're talking of posting carriers off India's coastline to bomb us. The Iranians cuckolded you and all you could do was grin & bear it. I suspect part of you relishes being cuckolded.Then there's North Korea or HK where the Chinese are cuckolding you and all you can do is be indignant in private and smile A causal smile in public.I'm more than convinced Britain secretly loves being cuckolded.

Go smell the coffee, old fart. The US & UK did try something to that effect in 1971 only to scoot with their tail between their legs.

Task Force 74 - Wikipedia

https://www.thedailystar.net/news/us-fleet-in-bay-of-bengal-a-game-of-deception

If you couldn't browbeat us then when we were weak what makes you think you can do so now?

P. S - nice to note your obsession with scat. Like being cuckolded this seems to be your fetish.
Iran already has sanctions.

The Soviet Union is gone and the pretend democracy left behind also has sanctions.

India does not have sanctions because the US/UK do not really care about Kashmir, it's all pretence for the sake of diplomacy.
 

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This isn't about what happened in the past. That's brought about by the author to underline his point about the present. That of the UK - A third rate & ever declining power unlike the French.
:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Yellow vest protests: Toulouse police use teargas on 1,000 marchers

Yellow vest protests: Toulouse police use teargas on 1,000 marchers
Police in Toulouse clash with demonstrators as revival of yellow vest movement continues in several cities

France don't even have control over their own capital.


Anyway, keep it up, there is no comedy that beats an Indian and Pakistani arguing.


 
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:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

Yellow vest protests: Toulouse police use teargas on 1,000 marchers

Yellow vest protests: Toulouse police use teargas on 1,000 marchers
Police in Toulouse clash with demonstrators as revival of yellow vest movement continues in several cities

France don't even have control over their own capital.


Anyway, keep it up, there is no comedy that beats an Indian and Pakistani arguing.


The first video could well be two Indian yokels fighting or 2 Pakistani yokels just as the second one can be searched under the keywords Pakistanis fighting locals in Birmingham or Pakistanis fighting each other in Birmingham. Besides what's it have to do with the French yellow vests protesting in Toulouse and how's it connected to the quoted post you wretched unwashed louse.
 

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This is OT here, but the country watch threads aren't visible :

Pakistan security work keeps UK safe, says William

:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
I can't stop laughing. @BMD @_Anonymous_
It's amazing the lengths their dogs will go to in order to escape.

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India-UK defence ties: The UK seeks opportunities in Make in India, offers electric propulsion

By: Huma Siddiqui | Published: October 19, 2019 9:13:39 PM

Admiral Tim Fraser, the UK’s Vice Chief of Defence Staff, while outlining practical areas of cooperation between the two countries beyond information sharing said, “we hope to have the individual in the post very soon”.
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In recent years there have been several high-level military visits on both sides that India and the UK have been steadily ramping up their military-to-military cooperation.

Ahead of the Brexit, the UK has accepted India’s offer to place a liaison officer at the Indian Navy’s Information Fusion Centre (IFC) for the Indian Ocean Region (IOR) headquartered in Gurugram and is exploring opportunities under the Make in India initiative.

Admiral Tim Fraser, the UK’s Vice Chief of Defence Staff, while outlining practical areas of cooperation between the two countries beyond information sharing said, “we hope to have the individual in the post very soon”.

Through engagement with partner countries, the Centre helps in the further development of comprehensive Maritime Domain Awareness and sharing of information on vessels of interest.

At a discussion on India-UK cooperation in IOR organised jointly by the British High Commission and the Vivekananda International Foundation, according to the Admiral both sides can work together and there are several opportunities which would further deepen cooperation between the two. Adding, also, areas like safety and the electric propulsion on the aircraft carriers can be explored.

Also, in November a Royal Navy Destroyer will be visiting Mumbai, and both India and the UK are expected to continue their dialogue on electric propulsion and explore opportunities to support Make in India initiative.

According to Admiral Tim Fraser, in2021, HMS QUEEN ELIZABETH and the Carrier Strike Group, on her maiden operational deployment, will operate in the Indian Ocean region. Admiral Fraser said that “Indian Carrier Task Group and the UK Task Group will be working together to undertake Exercise KONKAN 21 – which could be the most complex and sophisticated yet in the KONKAN series.”

In recent years there have been several high-level military visits on both sides that India and the UK have been steadily ramping up their military-to-military cooperation.

The UK side earlier this year in February at Aero India pitched to collaborate in the areas of aircraft carriers and development of 6th generation fighter aircraft technologies. This was followed by the bilateral defence and security equipment talks in April, when the two countries renewed the Defence Equipment Memorandum (DEM) of 2007.

This year in March, the former Naval Chief Admiral Sunil Lanba, during a discussion on ‘Maritime strategy and its contribution to the Indo-Pacific and global commons’, at the said the Institute of Strategic Studies, had said that India sees “no post-Brexit challenges” but only opportunities for greater synergies with the UK in naval cooperation.

India-UK Maritime Cooperation

Over the years the multi-faceted bilateral relations between the two have grown. Both have a common perspective on maritime challenges.

The two have agreed to develop a cooperative framework to face all challenges. Both share common goals.

Are clear in their intentions for the future – which is reflected in ambitious shipbuilding and maritime innovation programmes.

Ex-Konkan, the bilateral naval exercise, is the cornerstone of India’s maritime cooperation. And is designed to test the ability of the two Commonwealth navies to operate side-by-side during the war and other operations.

The UK has been a preferred port of call whenever Indian Navy operates in the northern Atlantic.

India-UK defence ties: The UK seeks opportunities in Make in India, offers electric propulsion
 
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Well this would happen eventually, it was only a matter of time :

The Pakistanis number more and are fairly concentrated in some areas like Bradford, Birmingham, Manchester, etc. However, Indians contribute much more in terms of funds than any of the immigrant communities in Britain. But make no mistake, the Party in Labour has struck a raw nerve amongst the Indian community & I include the Sikhs here or at least all except the Lunatic Khalistani fringe & possibly the Indian Muslim vote.
 
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The Pakistanis number more and are fairly concentrated in some areas like Bradford, Birmingham, Manchester, etc. However, Indians contribute much more in terms of funds than any of the immigrant communities in Britain. But make no mistake, the Party in Labour has struck a raw nerve amongst the Indian community & I include the Sikhs here or at least all except the Lunatic Khalistani fringe & possibly the Indian Muslim vote.
Outside India , an Indian Muslim is more muslim than Indian. Will never align with India's interest