India - France relations.

So where is the oversight on research subjects here? It's about "pro-Palestine" demonstrations, not about research.
But, they have oversight on "funding" (atleast selectively) on university. Which is the point.

Referring to political theory as "research" itself is a scam. I mean, conduct this kind of hogwash within your own country. Why are you using public funds for this in other nations?
 
And your solution to that is "go suck Uncle Sam's Cock"??

You can do as much fellatio to Biden but its not going to make India into China or even anywhere near them. If it was this simple, rest assured Modi and entire South Block are not beyond that.

Ask Pakistan. They are masters in alignment. Have been doing it for a very long time now.

What you need is fundamentals. Infra like Roads, electricity and ports. Skilled labour. Business friendly policies. Legal system that caters to businesses when needed without wasting 50 years. Do that and you will get all the investment, Biden or Trump not withstanding.
sigh... so much brain rot on this forum...people really stick onto their dogmas.....every single point you mention here, i have already addressed in my previous posts

>And your solution to that is "go suck Uncle Sam's Cock"??
Ans: my response from previous thread>>this is the 4th time I am saying this. Indian nationalists think that greater engagement with US means deepthroating them. there is no in-between.

>You can do as much fellatio to Biden but its not going to make India into China or even anywhere near them. If it was this simple, rest assured Modi and entire South Block are not beyond that.
Ans: Ever increasing american companies pouring their investment into india (semiconductors, solar, optics, etc) says otherwise.
Also, Modi & south block are already on their knees giving fellatio to biden admin anyways. White House met khalistani activists just before modi visit(a tight slap). So much so that Ajit Doval was not allowed on modi's entourage(another humiliation). But modi went anyway because he wants their investments. Looks like Modi admin is on their knees sucking hard despite what you say.

>Ask Pakistan. They are masters in alignment. Have been doing it for a very long time now.
Ans: just more brain-rot from indian nationalists. I specifically addressed this point in my previous response. let me copy it again -
"You give example of Pakistan, a very retarded country but not of Taiwan, South Korea or Japan, all of them have 32k to 35k USD GDP per capita. Pakistan failed to take advantage of its US support to grow its economy. Its retarded elites were happy to fill their own pockets. Now that they have fallen out with US, they are bitter. This bitterness is compounded when they see american companies making a bee-line to invest in india. Something they never cared about. Do you think if they were given another chance with US, they wouldn't take it? They absolutely would. Because they understand that US was the only reason why their economy was better than India for most of post-independence history."

>What you need is fundamentals. Infra like Roads, electricity and ports. Skilled labour. Business friendly policies. Legal system that caters to businesses when needed without wasting 50 years. Do that and you will get all the investment, Biden or Trump not withstanding.
Ans: I already addressed all these points in my previous responses to randomradio. The essence was that there was no major change in India's investment climate before the pandemic & after the pandemic but something changed as more and more american companies started pouring their capital into india. That was because of geopol alignment with US nothing else.
Quoting my previous responses - "WTF is a low-mid end induatry idk but all I see is american companies like Boeing, Lockheed Martin, Micron, AMD, etc investing heavily in india despite India not having good enough business environment. Which means there is artificial pressure on them from above(white house) to industrialise India. French companies like Airbus on the other hand don't even look towards india while they are planning to increase their investments in the assembly plant they have in China. All this is happenning while Air India + Indigo are buying record amount of planes from these countries. Waste of opportunity. Shameless."
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>quality of trade, not quantity
your goal posts will never stop shifting. I have given you so much data by now, its not even funny. India's trade surplus with US increased from $24billion to $38Billion b/w 2020 and 2022. Please do tell, what quality of indian products changed in these 2 years? This was a result of greater alignment with US interests. I like to see it. Similarly, there has been no change in investment ecosystem in the last few years but now so many semiconductor firms are ready to invest in india. Why? what quality changed? Its the geopolitics and interests, not quality."

See the point here is that I have refuted randomradio & others so many times but they will not change their viewpoints. Aadat se majboor. I specifically like how randomradio will go in random directions & when his points get refuted he wont reply, but ghum gham ke, 10 reply ke baad, usi topic ko firse regurgitate kardega. like this one -

">While India is trying to reduce strategic dependency on the US
Wow, what weird way to reduce strategic dependency-
All 83 tejas mk1a will run on american F404 engines. All future jets(tejas mk2, TEDBF, AMCA mk1) will run on american F414 engines. Almost all future frigates/destroyers/Aircraft Carriers will run on US General Electric LM2500 gas turbine engines. What a weird way to reduce strategic dependency? wow, maybe randomradio can tell us something we don't know."

There is no point in arguing with such people. I realised this and stopped replying. Saaho I didn't read your posts either. I understand their is no point. I will probably get replies on this thread but won't really bother replying until september 2025. See you in a year boys!!!
 
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sigh... so much brain rot on this forum...people really stick onto their dogmas.....every single point you mention here, i have already addressed in my previous posts
None. You addressed none.

Ans: my response from previous thread>>this is the 4th time I am saying this. Indian nationalists think that greater engagement with US means deepthroating them. there is no in-between.
Have you ever seen any in-betweens for developing countries? US says do not buy Russian oil and all of them have to bow down. US says no russian weapons and none of them buy Russian weapons. Even turkey is looking to get rid of their russian S-400. Have you ever seen Japan take a stance that is anti USA? Have you seen South Korea try to take a pro Russia stance for their own benefits?

Thats what it means with alignment.

BTW one can prosper and not align at all. Ask Chinese.

Ans: just more brain-rot from indian nationalists. I specifically addressed this point in my previous response. let me copy it again -
"You give example of Pakistan, a very retarded country but not of Taiwan, South Korea or Japan, all of them have 32k to 35k USD GDP per capita. Pakistan failed to take advantage of its US support to grow its economy. Its retarded elites were happy to fill their own pockets. Now that they have fallen out with US, they are bitter. This bitterness is compounded when they see american companies making a bee-line to invest in india. Something they never cared about. Do you think if they were given another chance with US, they wouldn't take it? They absolutely would. Because they understand that US was the only reason why their economy was better than India for most of post-independence history."
The bigger question is that did Japan, Korea and Taiwan succeed because of US alignment or did they succeed because of their own policies? Japan was war-torn, it fixed its economy by developing an export oriented hi-tech industry in all sectors. South Korea followed similar but also included construction. Taiwan picked up semiconductors.

The most interesting example is China. They did not align at ALL. They picked up EVERY God damned thing and beat USA at its own game. You know how much China used to recieve in FDI? In 1997 it was about 40 odd billion dollars. India recieved only 28 billion in 2023. Its highest FDI EVER is some 67 billion dollars. China got more than that in 2004. And in 90s US China relationship was very bitter. As it is today.

By 2005 China was recieving 100+ billion dollars in FDi EACH YEAR! This was the game changer. And it kept on going till 2022. No amount of alignment will bring this money in India. You need investor's confidence to bring that money in India.

Ask yourself, why the hell in 90s & 2000s investors were SO god damn keen to put more money in China than they are doing it right now in India? What did China offer them at that point?

Source : World Bank Open Data

The upshot is simple, something you do not wish to even consider.

If your nation is capable and enterprising, NO alignment is needed to prosper. (See China)
If your nation is incapable no amount of alignment is going to fix your economy. (See Pakistan)


Rest is all bullshit. Fix your fundamentals and rest will work out.
 
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#bilateral defence cooperation
#space collaboration
#Ukraine
#cooperation in cyber and space sectors
#Strategic Dialogue
#Indo-Pacific partnerships
#Rafale Marine
#Scorpène subs
#nuthin about SSN :(

Synopsis​

National Security Advisor Ajit Doval met France's Armed Forces Minister Sebastien Lecornu in Paris. They focused on enhancing bilateral defence cooperation and space collaboration. They also discussed the evolving global situation, particularly in Ukraine. Doval led the Strategic Dialogue with Emmanuel Bonne, reinforcing Indo-Pacific partnerships and cooperation in cyber and space sectors.

Paris- National Security Advisor Ajit Doval has met the Armed Forces Minister of France here and discussed enhancing bilateral defence relations and advancing space collaboration, as well as the "evolving" global situation. "On his visit to France, India's National Security Advisor, Shri Ajit Doval, engaged in extensive discussions with French Armed Forces Minister, Mr Sebastien Lecornu," the Indian embassy in France said in a post on X on Tuesday.

"Their dialogue aimed at deepening bilateral defence cooperation and advancing space collaboration, while also sharing insights on the evolving international geopolitical landscape," it said.

Lecornu also took to X after the meeting and said they discussed "our bilateral defence cooperation: Rafale Marine, Scorpene submarines, space. As well as the international situation, particularly in Ukraine."

Doval also led the Strategic Dialogue here with Emmanuel Bonne, the Diplomatic Advisor to French President Emmanuel Macron.

The dialogue "anchors the strategic partnership of great trust and comfort, and high ambitions and responsibilities in the Indo-Pacific and beyond, and from cyber to space", the Indian embassy said in a separate post.
/end
 
#bilateral defence cooperation
#space collaboration
#Ukraine
#cooperation in cyber and space sectors
#Strategic Dialogue
#Indo-Pacific partnerships
#Rafale Marine
#Scorpène subs
#nuthin about SSN :(

Synopsis​

National Security Advisor Ajit Doval met France's Armed Forces Minister Sebastien Lecornu in Paris. They focused on enhancing bilateral defence cooperation and space collaboration. They also discussed the evolving global situation, particularly in Ukraine. Doval led the Strategic Dialogue with Emmanuel Bonne, reinforcing Indo-Pacific partnerships and cooperation in cyber and space sectors.

Paris- National Security Advisor Ajit Doval has met the Armed Forces Minister of France here and discussed enhancing bilateral defence relations and advancing space collaboration, as well as the "evolving" global situation. "On his visit to France, India's National Security Advisor, Shri Ajit Doval, engaged in extensive discussions with French Armed Forces Minister, Mr Sebastien Lecornu," the Indian embassy in France said in a post on X on Tuesday.

"Their dialogue aimed at deepening bilateral defence cooperation and advancing space collaboration, while also sharing insights on the evolving international geopolitical landscape," it said.

Lecornu also took to X after the meeting and said they discussed "our bilateral defence cooperation: Rafale Marine, Scorpene submarines, space. As well as the international situation, particularly in Ukraine."

Doval also led the Strategic Dialogue here with Emmanuel Bonne, the Diplomatic Advisor to French President Emmanuel Macron.

The dialogue "anchors the strategic partnership of great trust and comfort, and high ambitions and responsibilities in the Indo-Pacific and beyond, and from cyber to space", the Indian embassy said in a separate post.
/end
 
Namaskaar, thank you!
In fact i had read the article that the lady wrote for theprint, but I didn't repost it here because unfortunately she doesn't source her assertions on India-France collaboration in SSN, nor does she specify the areas of this collaboration: tails? Sonar? ...propulsion????
We need assistance in all three..... propulsion, Automation & Sonar.
 
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