No mention of the AEW version aimed at replacing Ka-31.
IMRH Project Gains Momentum with ₹13000 Crore CCS Proposal - AlphaDefense.in
HAL moves forward with IMRH and naval helicopter development through a ₹13000 crore CCS proposal for five prototypes.alphadefense.in
Design has become even sleeker compared to even the previous iteration, hopefully it gets approved soon.
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REQUEST FOR QUOTATION (TWO BID SYSTEM) FOR DESIGN AND ANALYSIS OF AIRFRAME FOR IMRH & DBMRH
Indian vendors only
See page 43 for images in the both documents
Indian vendors only
See page 43 for images in the both documents
Yeah, this is from last year tender. Already posted before.
So this tender bid is happening after a year? @marich01
GoI / MoD are determined to phuck the life out of HAL by hollowing it inside out. This is yet another example of their approach assuming what's written there is true.
Pragmatic approach if true, better to get the prototypes rolling for trials than wait endlessly for funds to arrive.
The twin Tejas Mk1A contracts are really paying dividends in the kind of projects HAL can fund on its own.
It has been one year since the HAL board cleared an investment of around Rs 4,500 crore for prototype development. It is a Navaratna company; they can fund the entire project themselves if they want to.
How? One would think that this development is the correct way of approaching defense production.
Its not like we don't need IMRH. If HAL is confident about it, then it doesn't lack funds to develop couple of prototypes. If it's successful, then orders will definitely come. Have no doubt that HAL will get the orders if it can develop prototype successfully with its own funding.
DPSUs do everything to get orders of BTP platforms. They won't let their own funded program be a casualty.
I'm glad you asked. OTOH HAL is facing a competition for NUH & UHM where it's more than likely half the order will be awarded to a JV of an F-OEM with a local partner under MII & OTOH HAL is expected to develop the next gen hptrs using in house funds where there's neither a CCS sanction nor any assurance of receiving the order.
All this , when the new draft DPP (?) proposes splitting the cost of development between the MoD / GoI & the DcPP. So where're the MoD's share of development funds ?
Moreover HAL is now a publicly listed company . If some activist shareholder raises questions on the reason HAL is funding such development with no assurance of an order or a CCS clearance & HAL doesn't have answers , said activist could in theory drag HAL to SEBI presenting a major embarassment for both MoD & GoI . @suryakiran
It's another matter that HAL enjoys no AUTONOMY whatsoever ,unlike what novices here think with little or no experience of Corporate Culture on how top management thinks whatsoever , wherein one call from the Defence Secretary will see the MD of HAL get up from his cosy chair & stand in attention while attending the call duly complying with all the instructions received.
That's exactly what's happening here.
True that. Case in point: HALs insistence on developing HTT-40 on its own dime despite the IAFs clear preference for more Pilatus PC-7s.
This was at a time when HJT-36 was in the doldrums.
Can we see this as an attempt/pilot project of " What if HAL was pvt"?
I don't see any indication that HAL is self funding prototypes and going against GOI to do that. Surely, def sec is already on board. Foreign OEM rakes moolah because our industry doesn't have the answer for it yet ( fully in production?). But no OEM can surely take HALs order away from it. Right? UHM & NUH aren't even ready to be in production yet. It pains me to see that we have no other alternative than some old foreign tech to open room for competition against THE HAL.
HAL is on backfoot due to delays after delays and confusing decisions about LCA. GOI is under pressure to cut off the rot.
This development if true'( all hearsay at this point) works well for both parties. HAL can get back it's credibility, increase work ethic and GOI can showcase it as successful initiative and model on which future indian defense may work. It can nudge others to build initial R&D setup.
But that's just my conjecture. HAL is no innocent player finding itself in a quagmire. It's one of the core player of the quagmire
No , HAL's committed to the project just like they're committed to CATS Warrior & the HTSE & HTFE projects just that unlike the latter 3 , there's a very good chance HAL will bag the order.
Then again given the all around confusion prevailing one's no clue if HAL will get the entire component or part order.
Who says they're going against the GoI ? I'm saying GoI is arm twisting them to fund the development of the IMRH while starving them of development funds they're entitled to.
Fingers crossed at the moment. HAL is going thru uncertain times with the GoI having thrown it under the bus. Previously I was under the impression GoI wanted to create an alternative aero ecosystem to HAL.
Now I'm becoming increasingly convinced GoI wants to hollow out HAL the way Titan hollowed out HMT . Time will answer this one.
Compare this approach to what China took .
The Idea is to give HAL full autonomy to run its affairs as a private sector company without MoD on its back . Give them a stipulated time period during which the mandate would be - perform or perish.
At the end of that stipulated time period take a call whatever it may be.
Instead we have this quagmire. HAL certainly is no innocent party in this but then again neither is the MoD or GoI or IAF. They're all equally culpable.
Is it politically feasible to truly privatize HAL? The union workers might burn down and destroy half the factories.
This BJP led government had given 11+ years to HAL. Have they deliver anything meaning full in last 12 years no. Their own product ALH Mk3 was gtounded for an year, had IAF & IA version was not inducted in large numbers thatbalso could have grounded. Where is the HAL HTSE 1200 engine that promised to develop? Its no where.
FYI HAL seeking 8 years to complete 84 MKI upgrades. Why would government support such PSU who is handling the critical area endlessly? Let IMRH goes to the pvt sector.
The only area they done some meaningfull work was the LCH project, they provided few examples to IAF in 2020 for operational deployment against China .
As a Maharatna DPSU, HAL has more autonomy/flexibility in picking projects today than ever before. Afaik, projects like CATS, HTSE and HTFE were all initiated without IAF sanction.
While I don't blame them for thinking long term, they often suffer because of issues like reservation/quotas in recruitment and lack of direct coordination with the forces on their
requirements (LTIPP/TCPR vision documents are only indicative after all)
No private company in its right mind would ever bring a product to market without first studying product market fit.
DPSUs like HAL are still operating like we live in a pre-90s closed economy.
The armed forces are now looking at the pvt sector to meet urgent needs. With the entry of Airbus and Agusta, HAL has effectively been put on notice.
While I don't blame them for thinking long term, they often suffer because of issues like reservation/quotas in recruitment and lack of direct coordination with the forces on their
requirements (LTIPP/TCPR vision documents are only indicative after all)
No private company in its right mind would ever bring a product to market without first studying product market fit.
DPSUs like HAL are still operating like we live in a pre-90s closed economy.
The armed forces are now looking at the pvt sector to meet urgent needs. With the entry of Airbus and Agusta, HAL has effectively been put on notice.