Future Combat Air System (FCAS) - France/Germany

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Dassault Aviation and Airbus join forces on Future Combat Air System | Press kits - Dassault Aviation

Berlin, 25 April 2018 – Dassault Aviation (stock exchange symbol: AM) and Airbus (stock exchange symbol: AIR) have decided to join forces for the development and production of Europe’s Future Combat Air System (FCAS), which is slated to complement and eventually replace current generation of Eurofighter and Rafale fighter aircraft between 2035 and 2040.

  • Landmark agreement to develop and produce Europe’s next generation combat aircraft
  • Fosters European high-tech leadership in the military aviation sector for decades to come
  • Future Combat Air System to be developed as a system of systems, including unmanned aerial vehicles, connectivity and secure communications
  • Next generation fighter aircraft to complement and eventually replace current generation of Eurofighter and Rafale fighter aircraft by 2035-2040
  • Overall development contract to be launched to follow study and to include demonstrators to support FCAS planned as of 2025
Berlin, 25 April 2018 – Dassault Aviation (stock exchange symbol: AM) and Airbus (stock exchange symbol: AIR) have decided to join forces for the development and production of Europe’s Future Combat Air System (FCAS), which is slated to complement and eventually replace current generation of Eurofighter and Rafale fighter aircraft between 2035 and 2040.



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ILA (Innovation and Leadership in Aerospace) Berlin Air Show, Germany, from 25 to 29 April 2018. Éric Trappier, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Dassault Aviation, and Dirk Hoke, Chief Executive of Airbus Defense and Space

The partnership, sealed in Berlin by Eric Trappier, Chairman and CEO of Dassault Aviation and Dirk Hoke, Airbus Defence and Space Chief Executive Officer (CEO) , represents a landmark industrial agreement to secure European sovereignty and technological leadership in the military aviation sector for the coming decades.

Eric Trappier, Chairman and CEO of Dassault Aviation, said: “We are convinced that by deploying our joint expertise, Dassault Aviation and Airbus can best meet the operational requirements of the Forces in the development of this critically important European programme. Both companies fully intend to work together in the most pragmatic and efficient manner. Our joint roadmap will include proposals to develop demonstrators for the FCAS programme as of 2025. I am convinced that European sovereignty and strategic autonomy can and will only be ensured through independent European solutions. The vision that France and Germany have set forth with FCAS is a bold one and it’s an important signal in, and for, Europe. The FCAS programme will strengthen the political and military ties between Europe’s core nations and it will reinvigorate its aerospace industry.”

“Never before has Europe been more determined to safeguard and foster its political and industrial autonomy and sovereignty in the defence sector. Airbus and Dassault Aviation have absolutely the right expertise to lead the FCAS project. Both companies are already cooperating successfully on Europe’s medium altitude long endurance new generation drone programme,” said Dirk Hoke, CEO of Airbus Defence and Space.

“FCAS takes this successful cooperation to the next level and we are absolutely committed to tackling this challenging mission together with Dassault Aviation. The schedule is tight, so we need to start working together immediately by defining a joint roadmap on how best to meet the requirements and timelines to be set by the two nations. It is therefore of key importance that France and Germany launch an initial joint study this year to address this task.”

Dassault Aviation and Airbus Defence and Space agree on the importance of efficient industrial governance in military programmes. This also includes the involvement of other key European defence industrial players and nations based on government funding and on the principle of best contribution.

Overall, FCAS defines a system of systems combining a wide range of elements connected and operating together, including a next generation fighter aircraft together with Medium-Altitude Long-Endurance Unmanned Aerial Vehicles (UAVs), the existing fleet of aircraft (which will still operate beyond 2040), future cruise missiles and drones flying in swarms. The overall system will be interoperable and connected in a larger perimeter with mission aircraft, satellites, NATO systems and land and naval combat systems.

ABOUT DASSAULT AVIATION
With over 10,000 military and civil aircraft delivered in more than 90 countries over the last century, Dassault Aviation has built up expertise recognized worldwide in the design, development, sale and support of all types of aircraft, ranging from the Rafale fighter, to the high-end Falcon family of business jets and military drones. In 2017, Dassault Aviation reported revenues of €4.8 billion. The company has 11,400 employees.

ABOUT AIRBUS
Airbus is a global leader in aeronautics, space and related services. In 2017 it generated reported revenues of € 67 billion – or
€ 59 billion restated for IFRS 15 – and employed a workforce of around 129,000. Airbus offers the most comprehensive range of passenger airliners from 100 to more than 600 seats. Airbus is also a European leader providing tanker, combat, transport and mission aircraft, as well as one of the world’s leading space companies. In helicopters, Airbus provides the most efficient civil and military rotorcraft solutions worldwide.
 

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French operational requirements: the aircraft needs to be able to operate alone in contested airspace, penetrate deeply in enemy territory, operate from an aircraft carrier, have have a high availability rate.

German operational requirements: the aircraft needs to be sufficiently expensive that Germany can buy more than any other partner country, so as to get the largest possible workshare before cancelling half their orders once workshare is secured. Germany must be able to block any export attempts by partner countries, but partner countries must not be able to block German export attempts. The aircraft's ability to actually fly is optional, and, frankly, discouraged.
 

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Both sides know that they need a new plane to fight the next war, with their present planes they cannot
Airbus will want the lead and Dassault will be the cry baby and then France will do it alone after stealing the design

French operational requirements: the aircraft needs to be able to operate alone in contested airspace, penetrate deeply in enemy territory, operate from an aircraft carrier, have have a high availability rate.

German operational requirements: the aircraft needs to be sufficiently expensive that Germany can buy more than any other partner country, so as to get the largest possible workshare before cancelling half their orders once workshare is secured. Germany must be able to block any export attempts by partner countries, but partner countries must not be able to block German export attempts. The aircraft's ability to actually fly is optional, and, frankly, discouraged.
 

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Both sides know that they need a new plane to fight the next war, with their present planes they cannot
So the next war has to be after 2040 :LOL:
Airbus will want the lead and Dassault will be the cry baby and then France will do it alone after stealing the design
Franco-German industrial cooperation is honored at the Berlin Air Show. In addition to the massive presence of Airbus, which presents all its novelties, the show today serves as a framework for a new major step in the cooperation between France and Germany: the announcement of an agreement confiding to Dassault Aviation the piloting of the future European combat aircraft, in partnership with Airbus Defense & Space. It could succeed the Eurofighter and the Rafale by 2040.
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Delicate distribution of roles
An ambition constantly reaffirmed, which nevertheless stumbles on the need to achieve, as for the aircraft manufacturer Airbus, a distribution of equitable roles between the industrials of the two countries. After the European MALE (medium altitude long endurance) surveillance UAV program led by Airbus Defense & Space, the most German branch of Airbus, and meanwhile the next tank also preempted by German manufacturers, the new program Fighter aircraft would arrive at the right time to restore the balance between French and Germans, entrusting the leadership to Dassault Aviation.

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So the next war has to be after 2040 :LOL:

Franco-German industrial cooperation is honored at the Berlin Air Show. In addition to the massive presence of Airbus, which presents all its novelties, the show today serves as a framework for a new major step in the cooperation between France and Germany: the announcement of an agreement confiding to Dassault Aviation the piloting of the future European combat aircraft, in partnership with Airbus Defense & Space. It could succeed the Eurofighter and the Rafale by 2040.
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Delicate distribution of roles
An ambition constantly reaffirmed, which nevertheless stumbles on the need to achieve, as for the aircraft manufacturer Airbus, a distribution of equitable roles between the industrials of the two countries. After the European MALE (medium altitude long endurance) surveillance UAV program led by Airbus Defense & Space, the most German branch of Airbus, and meanwhile the next tank also preempted by German manufacturers, the new program Fighter aircraft would arrive at the right time to restore the balance between French and Germans, entrusting the leadership to Dassault Aviation.

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2050 in fact, if you guys buy like 6-11 aircraft per year.
 

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India should start negotiations with Dassault Aviation for this F-MMRCA
ie Futuristic - MMRCA plane

The Negotiations will conclude by 2040

India will be the first Buyer of this plane :LOL:

French operational requirements: the aircraft needs to be able to operate alone in contested airspace, penetrate deeply in enemy territory, operate from an aircraft carrier, have have a high availability rate.

German operational requirements: the aircraft needs to be sufficiently expensive that Germany can buy more than any other partner country, so as to get the largest possible workshare before cancelling half their orders once workshare is secured. Germany must be able to block any export attempts by partner countries, but partner countries must not be able to block German export attempts. The aircraft's ability to actually fly is optional, and, frankly, discouraged.

I did not know that Germans are so complicated people :LOL:
 
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going no where with germany/airbus in the drivers seat.
The leadership of the design will be given to Dassault. Fortunately. The programm is so huge that Airbus will have a lot of others things to do, in compliance with their real skills.

It seems the general move includes the next gen Main Battle Tank, which design will be a German one.
 

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French operational requirements: the aircraft needs to be able to operate alone in contested airspace, penetrate deeply in enemy territory, operate from an aircraft carrier, have have a high availability rate.

German operational requirements: the aircraft needs to be sufficiently expensive that Germany can buy more than any other partner country, so as to get the largest possible workshare before cancelling half their orders once workshare is secured. Germany must be able to block any export attempts by partner countries, but partner countries must not be able to block German export attempts. The aircraft's ability to actually fly is optional, and, frankly, discouraged.

And France also need nuclear deterence.
 

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