This will be a huge setback for GoI if that’s the case. Let’s see how this plays out.
Explosion near Red Fort: At least 9 dead, several injured in blast
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This will be a huge setback for GoI if that’s the case. Let’s see how this plays out.
Simplest Rationale - They know who did it but can not pin it and the without clincher proof, diplomatic fallout is too much to bear. Lack of diplomatic support was a takeway in 1.0 too.
Now if there is a climbdown on IWT, the sab changa si process will be complete. Lets see. Not happy today TBH
@_Anonymous_ your thoughts ?
Now if there is a climbdown on IWT, the sab changa si process will be complete. Lets see. Not happy today TBH
@_Anonymous_ your thoughts ?
Now we won't be blamed for aggression if something untoward happens ..
are they trusting the Munira to do the needful ..
Unless they are trying to downplay this to maintain a state of ambiguity unlike Pahalgam where aggressive statements had more or less made it clear retaliation was inevitable for fauji foundation to prepare, their terming of action against "anti-national forces" and refusal to call it pak-sponsored terror makes it look like internal cleanup more than large scale strikes by trying to downplay the severity of this to prevent political fallout. At best guided arty rounds and loitering munitions in case it escalates.
Munirs doctrine is pre-empt. If we dont posture what does he preempt?
You think they will really do internal cleanup? If this was stated as Pakistan operated terrorist attack, then I would believe that they will do internal cleanup cause the tag of Pakistan sponsored will deter oppurtunists.
But now oppurtunists will be out on streets and professional protestors will start getting jobs at scale, when GOI tried to clean internal modules. Cause , we all know what it will require to do so. What kind of places to be monitored and raised for search.
Then there's whole SIR issue. Isn't that also part of cleanup. And since it was said that Bangladesh-nepal route was used.. what do we do with bangladesh? Are illegal Bangladeshis are the anti-national?
And the fking bio terror plan!! How are agencies going to find another such plans, since this might just embolden anti national forces. Causes conviction rate under UAPA is very low. Will they get hanged? Anything less than that is self defeating.
Yeah. Read the cabinet resolution
Same. After repeal of farm laws, this statement cum resolution has been most disappointing when it comes to political will and decision taken by GOI.
I don't know what they are waiting for. Cause 13 dead people ain't gonna complete the bloodlust of jihadis.
It was precisely due to the previous incident (which involved Pakistani nationals) that the boys in Pindi have changed their approach. Many people speculated that Pakistani nationals and soil will not be used to conduct the next terror attack. They were right. The complication now is that the GoI will need to put together proof that there are enough links to terror outfits based in Pakistan. Unlike the Israelis we do not operate under the blanket of a superpower. This will be a slow process. I had previously stated the same. People who are expecting immediate retaliation - It is unlikely to happen. The element of surprise is gone. Exercises are ongoing near IB and an operation can be launched quickly. However, there are certain constraints that are imposed upon GoI. Also, there is a general expectation that Sindoor part 2 will cause damage to certain assets that were not targeted during part 1. This is turn (expectation from the public) needs to be managed well.
Unfortunately for us, Munir can pretty much single handedly decide what the course of action should be for his entire country (good or bad) which gives him a lower kinetic threshold. The pace and escalation matrix is not a one sided affair. We have more at stake in comparison to the Pakistanis. Trolling aside, Russia went in for a week long operation and EU was supposed to support Ukraine for a few months (till they drove the RU forces from their territory). The next conflict if it does happen will can turn into a war (because the appetite post Sindoor has grown). The members should also contemplate if you are willing to go in for a month long war with Pakistan at present.
Internal clean-up is likely to remain a priority due to the following reasons:
1. Extensive networks that will need to be dismantled. Will need intelligence work and resources.
2. The Biological and Chemical angle also needs to be investigated and probed.
3. Involvement of Dhaka based modules.
4. The role that the Turks might have played in the enabling and planning such attacks.
There are multiple angles involved and Delhi has limited bandwidth in terms of military, intelligence, and diplomatic capacity.
The defence budget needs a hike and Delhi needs to shed its soy boy approach in the region when it comes to certain other parties (folks know whom I am talking about).
If we decide to commence Sindoor, it should be at a pace of our choosing and if feasible should last long enough to create a deterrence that similar conflicts can be avoided at least till the end of the decade.
Nothing new about internal modules, internal elements, and sleeper cells as you said correctly. And this Bangladesh, Nepal, and Doha, Turkey also is not new.
People here should read about qurban ali doctrine, I have a doubt that they have restarted it over pan India like in mid 90's and 2000s, which was on halt , read about it. Big challenge coming up for Modi government if this is true.
Bleed India with a Thousand Cuts - Wikipedia
I think even the Government is taken aback about this New Route and New Module of Terrorists
If those posters had not been pasted in Kashmir and the If the Very Brilliant IPS officer Sundeep Chakravarthy had not begun an enquiry , the whole thing would have remained a secret
Then also The Naysayers were scoffing on the first day when Arrests were made and explosives seized
It is only when the Car Bomb exploded that the Liberal lobby was forced to condemn their own " Supporters "
First let us clean the Country from within
Pakistan can wait for Now
If those posters had not been pasted in Kashmir and the If the Very Brilliant IPS officer Sundeep Chakravarthy had not begun an enquiry , the whole thing would have remained a secret
Then also The Naysayers were scoffing on the first day when Arrests were made and explosives seized
It is only when the Car Bomb exploded that the Liberal lobby was forced to condemn their own " Supporters "
First let us clean the Country from within
Pakistan can wait for Now
Only few reasons that I can think of..
Since both sides are well prepared, losses will be higher ..
Pakistan is already in free fall .. lets not divert that. Which is why I think Munir will try again, bolder..
Since both sides are well prepared, losses will be higher ..
Pakistan is already in free fall .. lets not divert that. Which is why I think Munir will try again, bolder..
Highly likely
We will see more events before the year ends. Please pray I am wrong here.
You clean today, and then after 2 years they will come up with new modules. Ab aisa hi chalta rahega kya?
Chances any such misadventure are indeed high (when viewed historically). More than anything the govt. needs to ensure that should such a thing come to pass the retaliation should be such that the operation should not end in ambiguity and should result in a decisive victory (which is a hard ask but what the public demands). However, such an operation will likely turn into a full scale war. The Pakistanis also need a victory or at least need to sell a victory convincingly.
And this time the attackers will plan the attack near elections. To fit into the new narrative of opposition.
It isn't without reason when it's said that Congress is matching tunes with what pak wants.
Abhinandan capture stopped the chances then.
Op Sindhoor was almost flawless and in control of war during the entire course.
I think Indian war planners are trying to win war with least loss and have total control on war .
