DRDO Very short-range air-defence system (VSHORADS) : MANPAD Developments
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More man-portable air defence missile systems coming soon amid rising India-Pakistan tensions over Pahalgam attack | India News - The Times of India
India News: NEW DELHI: The Army is going in for the procurement of another lot of man-portable air defence missile systems, which can intercept and destroy hostil.
timesofindia.indiatimes.com
As per 2023 Dec standing committee on defence report, drdo VSHORADS was under developmental trials, which also concluded recently in 2025 so this can now move into user trial.
Now the warhead is made and might be in live warhead trials soon. Once it passes UT stage, a quick LSP and induction to follow. The warhead fitting is in the last stage of development once the baseline article is proven apparently.
As with any IR/IIR system, the critical parts are the seeker itself and incorporating error free control and guidance algo. The independent tiny gyro system needs to be highly accurate for accurate tracking irrespective of ambient and aerodynamic condition, which is why our IR/IIR based system take so much time. During old Nag development, stabilised high precision gyro with seeker were all imported at high cost.
There is also small bias between the IR seeker stabilised gyro axis and the missile body axis during tracking. While this is very small, it can be enough for a biased data accumulation sent to the OBC, which result in biased calculation of the target profile and its probably trajectory interception point thereby affecting the miss distance. Hence the OBC tracking algo based program need to consider this and incorporate in the program also. This part is highly critical and need extensive testing for satisfactory outcome. This is applicable for all air to air missiles, sam systems, AD systems also.
Managing logistics for the Indian military has got to be a high blood pressure job. VSHORAD, Igla-S, Starstreak, Mistral, ... not to mention all the legacy stuff and I am sure Putin will sell Verba this visit.
Hope they stop the insanity, and consolidate all the services around VSHORAD.
Hope they stop the insanity, and consolidate all the services around VSHORAD.
On the contrary, a very practical force would want diversified arsenal available in the inventory, even if in smaller nos.
If every available product were best in the class , why do this scampering for upgrades during wartime use is seen in every theater of war ? This is why warfare is so dynamic, there is no right fit solution from start to the end.
Against a quantitatively superior foe like China, India needs to give critical thought to her logistics game -- the Ukraine/Russia war should be a wake up call to everyone. Does India have the numbers to prosecute a drawn out border conflict? Or will the soldiers be yeeting rocks at the Chinese after the first couple of weeks?
Besides, India isn't playing to her strengths -- economies of scale. That's foolishly paying more for what could be obtained for less. And that's funding away from local R&D projects.
Sadly India has a procurement process designed to NOT support iterative improvements from local OEMs, and a lack of strategic thinking on logistics.
I saw an article by a Ch!ng ch0ng who actually was impressed we can maintain a weeks worth of ammunition for war with the kichidi of weapons we have though that number is probably more now.
RFP for VSHORADS NG
Personal opinion: The RFP seems to favour Adani's Igla S offering specifically and keep DRDO VSHORADS out of running.
Modi's government has been compromised at the highest levels by Adani imo.
Personal opinion: The RFP seems to favour Adani's Igla S offering specifically and keep DRDO VSHORADS out of running.
Modi's government has been compromised at the highest levels by Adani imo.
The length of the system eliminates DRDO VSHORADS, the strict requirement of IR guidance eliminates BDL's Starstreak.
Even the incoming speeds of targets are an exact match for the presentations of Igla-S.
Go through the document to know more. We have seen this with buying useless Hermes too. I think the push behind Stryker is also because they may go with Adani as a partner.
I don't have much knowledge about specs and utility for vshorads, hence i asked. Otherwise I did go through the document.
So, is Igla-S 100% indigenous or jv? And is it superior? Does this render drdo vshorads unusable or what.
And is vshorads ready at same stage of development as igla? Like really ready apart from articles.
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How much profit would Adani gonna make from igla-s, he still has to give some fee's to the Russians, on the other hand he could make More profit by pushing DRDO VSHORDS, where he didn't have to give the license fees, he is the DCCP for drdo VSHORDS
Local assembly has delivered a batch to Army. Localisation wouldn't be very high.
Superior in some situations like use in special ops, where mobility more important.
PMO is again pushing for modified Stryker trials
Maybe it's more to keep the trump sedated and happy rather than any major acquisition.
Everyone knows Trump is more about showmanship now. Give him Good soundbytes and he laps it up.
What's ironic is that even the rag-tag Afghans are buying the latest Verba system while we're buying the older gen Igla-S. Likewise, Starstreak is nearing retirement with UK forces but in India its called 'state of the art'.
Let's say it takes 100 dollars to keep trump happy. Then those 100 dollars can be better utilised. Additional P8I, additional MH60R and additional Chinook are something which we need and we have no other alternatives. Buy those instead of Strykers or Javelins.
Yup. If these trials turns into acquisition when our own whap gen2 is about to come.. it will be foolish and tantamount to betrayal of strategic and economic prudence