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China precipitated the problem in Sikkim & Ladakh. They will have to pay a price. Expect India to back Taiwan in WHO.
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China rejects India’s objection over Diamer-Bhasha dam
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May 15, 2020
The spokesperson maintains that the Diamer-Bhasha dam is mutually beneficial for both Pakistan and China

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Beijing on Friday rejected the objection raised by New Delhi over the construction of Diamer-Bhasha dam and said economic cooperation between China and Pakistan was aimed at promoting economic development and improving the well-being of the local population.
While responding to a question about the construction of the dam during a media briefing in Beijing, Chinese Foreign Ministry’s Spokesperson Zhao Lijian said: “China and Pakistan conduct the economic cooperation in order to promote the economic development and improve the well-being of the local population."
Referring to the Indian External Affairs Ministry’s stance, Lijian stated that China’s position on the issue of Kashmir was consistent.
Also read:PM Imran orders immediate commencement of work on Diamer-Bhasha Dam
The spokesperson said the project was mutually beneficial and win-win for the two all-weather friends and strategic cooperative partners.
Prime Minister Imran Khan had directed to immediately start construction activities of the dam after issues related to settlement, detailed road map for mobilisation and financial resources of the Diamer-Bhasha dam were resolved.
The Diamer-Bhasha dam is a 4,500-megawatt project with an estimated cost of US$ 15 billion and which is expected to be one of the largest dams in the world after completion.
The project, being termed as a positive stimulus for Pakistan’s economy, will not only create 16,500 jobs but will also generate 4,500 MW of electricity.
Additionally, the project will also irrigate 1.2 million acres of agricultural land while extending the life of Tarbela Dam by 35 years.
Contract awarded to joint venture between Power China and FWO
The Water and Power Development Authority (Wapda) awarded the contract of the construction of the Diamer-Bhasha dam on Wednesday to a joint venture between Power China and Frontier Works Organisation (FWO)
Speaking on the occasion, WAPDA Chairman Lt Gen (retired) Muzammil Hussain said that the contract for the construction of the main dam was worth Rs442bn, which includes the construction of the main dam, a diversion system, access bridge and a 21MW hydropower plant in Tangir.
Diamer-Basha dam Chief Executive Officer Amir Bashir Chaudhry and authorised representative Yang Jiandu signed the agreement on behalf of WAPDA and the joint venture, respectively.
The WAPDA official said that the Diamer-Bhasha project's value was estimated at around Rs1,406.5bn and will complete in 2028.
The dam will be able to provide the national grid 18 billion units of electricity annually.
Hussain said that earlier a consultancy service contract had also been awarded to the Diamer Basha Consultants Group (DBCG) worth Rs27.18 bn.
The consultancy agreement includes construction design, construction supervision and contract administration of the Diamer-Basha dam project.
The Joint Venture DBCG comprises of 12 top-ranked national and foreign consulting firms namely NESPAK (Pakistan), Associate Consulting Engineers(Pakistan), Mott MacDonald Pakistan (Pakistan), Poyry (Switzerland), Montgomery Watson and Harza(MWH) International - Stantec (USA), Dolsar Engineering (Turkey), Mott McDonald International (England), China Water Resources Beifang Investigation, Design and Research Company (China), Mirza Associates Engineering Services (Pakistan), Al-Kasib Group of Engineering Services (Pakistan), Development Management Consultant (Pakistan) and MWH Pakistan (Pakistan) with NESPAK as the lead firm.
These firms have a vast experience of providing consultancy services for mega water projects the world over.

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China rejects India’s objection over Diamer-Bhasha dam

Beijing on Friday rejected the objection raised by New Delhi over the construction of Diamer-Bhasha dam and said economic cooperation between China and Pakistan was aimed at promoting economic development and improving the well-being of the...
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_Anonymous_ said:
China precipitated the problem in Sikkim & Ladakh. They will have to pay a price. Expect India to back Taiwan in WHO.
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They simply don’t care.
 
AbRaj said:
Delhi Customs seizes over 5 lakh masks, 952 PPE kits being smuggled to China
The Delhi Customs on Wednesday intercepted a huge amount of PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) kits, masks, raw material, and sanitisers which were being smuggled to China.

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      • Munish Pandey
  • New Delhi
  • May 14, 2020
  • UPDATED: May 14, 2020 07:10 IST
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Delhi Customs has started an investigation in this matter. (Photo: India Today/Munish Pandey)

The Delhi Customs on Wednesday intercepted a huge amount of PPE (Personal Protective Equipment) kits, masks, raw material, and sanitisers which were being smuggled to China, officials said.
Amid the crisis of protective kits during the fight against increasing coronavirus cases in India, the Directorate General of Foreign Trade (DGFT), on March 19, had banned the export of all ventilators, surgical, disposable (2/3 Ply) masks, and textile raw material for masks and coveralls. Export of Alcohol-based sanitiser was banned by DGFT on April 7.
According to officials, on the basis of intelligence, Air Cargo, Delhi Customs intercepted multiple shipments containing 5.08 lakh masks, 57 litres of sanitiser in 950 bottles, and 952 PPE kits at the courier terminal, New Delhi. It was being smuggled out of the country.
The department has also seized 2,480 kg of raw material for masks which was being smuggled to China.
“The goods were declared as packing materials for pouches and were being smuggled to China. These goods are prohibited for export as per the latest DGFT guidelines,” the officer said.
The Delhi Customs has started an investigation in the matter
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So what is China doing with them? Selling them on? I thought their outbreak was over.
 
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So what is China doing with them? Selling them on? I thought their outbreak was over.
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No idea mate. IMO they are selling it in the Chinese black market, as India has put restrictions on sale of PPE, masks and sanitizers. It can be a lucrative business for Chinese to smuggle these from third world countries like India at dirt cheap prices and sell it to western countries at a premium.
 
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We are backing the Aus ?? So I guess it wasn't all talk :

Coalition of 62 nations backs Australia’s push for COVID-19 probe

Australia has secured strong global backing for an independent inquiry into the coronavirus, with 62 nations coming together to co-sponsor a motion calling for the review at the World Health Assembly on Tuesday.

The new draft resolution updates an earlier EU version with significantly toughened language, and is backed by key nations including India, Japan, Britain, Canada, New Zealand, Indonesia, Russia, and all 27 EU member states.

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No guidelines yet!!! Country is reduced to a joke, tomorrow is Monday, guidelines must be released few days in advance so that people can assess the situation and make appropriate arrangements, now guidelines will be released at night, 2 days more will be wasted in clarification and chaos.
 
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BlackOpsIndia said:
No guidelines yet!!! Country is reduced to a joke, tomorrow is Monday, guidelines must be released few days in advance so that people can assess the situation and make appropriate arrangements, now guidelines will be released at night, 2 days more will be wasted in clarification and chaos.
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ALL responsibility now on states

Demarcation of Zones and permission of Activities left on State and local administration

Modi has finally realized that all his grandstanding is NOT working

Modi is getting only blame for the economic and the migrant crisis
 

In this interview , Rajiv Bajaj clearly said that States are deliberately asking for Extension so as to put all blame on
Modi

As it is , the migrant crisis is already
Modi's responsibility

Now all the economic problems and hardships will also be blamed on Modi

Meanwhile corona numbers keep piling
 
Guys,Is it okay to post my opinion piece on migrant crisis here?
It was a response to a guy in the other forum,i'll take it down if it breaks any forum rules,
Regards,

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Either enforce a full lockdown or let the people go about their life.
I am one those supported the lockdown(still asking for a full lockdown) but opposed for lifting it on the basis half baked data.

Im currently living in my hometown,which is a rural area.
According to the government data,my district is marked Orange but in reality it should be in red zone. The positive cases reached way above the breaking point.
(my relatives work in the health department,and visited few of those quarantine facilities myself)

All of my nearest college's and schools are working as make shift quarantine facilities.

Day before yesterday,5 positive cases were found in my nearest villages(within 4km or so).including a pregnant woman.

Revenue department officials came and physically cut down the access roads to those villages.

Including those 5 cases there 50+ cases in my 10km radius(which hosts 7 quarantine facilities)

All this ruckus in a quiet rural area,hence the myth of "yet to reach the villages" myth have been already busted. Community transmission has already started.

Current situation is way over our heads.

Wether,Migrants on the road or not ,we are doomed.

So my point is,why bother those poor souls along the way?

First of all,the logic of "certain states are pristine from infection,so allowing migrants will enhance the transmission" is a bogus statement. Those states do not even have proper grass root government set up.(like local revenue dept vao's,health dept. BDO offices etc)

If they don't have such set up how they could be sure of the infection rate ?

I'll go briefly on the migrant issue.

The way I see it,Welfare of any migrant belongs to three entities,
1.)Central government(mainly transportation,railways)
2.) State government of their origin
3.)state government of their work place.


If the central government kept the lockdown seriously,I wouldn't have cared for the migrant plight. But they didn't.


The central government gave nod for lifting the lockdown without proper planning and data.


we know what happened next, biggest example of the blunder is opening of booze houses.(I guess you might have seen the videos of tamils flocking into Ap wine shops)



If people get to have booze during this lockdown what's wrong for a migrant want to get home in this miserable time period?



i think your point is "even the host state/employers pay regularly,then they wouldn't stay so there,so the fault lies with them"


most of our decision makers are well educated,well paid civil service officials.

Despite their education, their excellent suggestion after a lockdown is" lets open those alcohol vomit shops,lets see what happens,"

If the educated, well paid official thinks like that,imagine what is the thought process of a underpaid migrant worker?

I heard stories of relatives (grandmas,grandpas,fathers,mothers)crying on the phone day/night begging them to come home. ie,they don't want them "suffer" in a unknown place.

Its a psychological thing, anothers cannot understand why they risking their life to get home.

If they wanna go home so what?

What's wrong with that thought?

They been here for 7-8 months on end and some for years.
In a time of crisis, people get home sick very easily. that's logical and expected.

My question is very simple.from the day one, Why haven't they(government) formulated a plan to move those migrants in a orderly mmanne?

Government could have moved them in tranches and held them in the district level quarantine centres. Heck they work hard and bring moolahs to their poverty ridden respective states.

Considering their contribution to the society,least we can do is treat them with respect.

Is it too much to ask for a train ride?

We elected governments for the welfare of our people.

To take care of us in the hour of crisis.

If the government fails on the prospect,we should question them and hold them accountable for
their mistakes.
Just because our favorite government is in the helm,it doesn't mean we have to give them a free pass.
 
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Holy Triad said:
Guys,Is it okay to post my opinion piece on migrant crisis here?
It was a response to a guy in the other forum,i'll take it down if it breaks any forum rules,
Regards,

=====================================




Either enforce a full lockdown or let the people go about their life.
I am one those supported the lockdown(still asking for a full lockdown) but opposed for lifting it on the basis half baked data.

Im currently living in my hometown,which is a rural area.
According to the government data,my district is marked Orange but in reality it should be in red zone. The positive cases reached way above the breaking point.
(my relatives work in the health department,and visited few of those quarantine facilities myself)

All of my nearest college's and schools are working as make shift quarantine facilities.

Day before yesterday,5 positive cases were found in my nearest villages(within 4km or so).including a pregnant woman.

Revenue department officials came and physically cut down the access roads to those villages.

Including those 5 cases there 50+ cases in my 10km radius(which hosts 7 quarantine facilities)

All this ruckus in a quiet rural area,hence the myth of "yet to reach the villages" myth have been already busted. Community transmission has already started.

Current situation is way over our heads.

Wether,Migrants on the road or not ,we are doomed.

So my point is,why bother those poor souls along the way?

First of all,the logic of "certain states are pristine from infection,so allowing migrants will enhance the transmission" is a bogus statement. Those states do not even have proper grass root government set up.(like local revenue dept vao's,health dept. BDO offices etc)

If they don't have such set up how they could be sure of the infection rate ?

I'll go briefly on the migrant issue.

The way I see it,Welfare of any migrant belongs to three entities,
1.)Central government(mainly transportation,railways)
2.) State government of their origin
3.)state government of their work place.


If the central government kept the lockdown seriously,I wouldn't have cared for the migrant plight. But they didn't.


The central government gave nod for lifting the lockdown without proper planning and data.


we know what happened next, biggest example of the blunder is opening of booze houses.(I guess you might have seen the videos of tamils flocking into Ap wine shops)



If people get to have booze during this lockdown what's wrong for a migrant want to get home in this miserable time period?



i think your point is "even the host state/employers pay regularly,then they wouldn't stay so there,so the fault lies with them"


most of our decision makers are well educated,well paid civil service officials.

Despite their education, their excellent suggestion after a lockdown is" lets open those alcohol vomit shops,lets see what happens,"

If the educated, well paid official thinks like that,imagine what is the thought process of a underpaid migrant worker?

I heard stories of relatives (grandmas,grandpas,fathers,mothers)crying on the phone day/night begging them to come home. ie,they don't want them "suffer" in a unknown place.

Its a psychological thing, anothers cannot understand why they risking their life to get home.

If they wanna go home so what?

What's wrong with that thought?

They been here for 7-8 months on end and some for years.
In a time of crisis, people get home sick very easily. that's logical and expected.

My question is very simple.from the day one, Why haven't they(government) formulated a plan to move those migrants in a orderly mmanne?

Government could have moved them in tranches and held them in the district level quarantine centres. Heck they work hard and bring moolahs to their poverty ridden respective states.

Considering their contribution to the society,least we can do is treat them with respect.

Is it too much to ask for a train ride?

We elected governments for the welfare of our people.

To take care of us in the hour of crisis.

If the government fails on the prospect,we should question them and hold them accountable for
their mistakes.
Just because our favorite government is in the helm,it doesn't mean we have to give them a free pass.
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Where are you located?
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
India's population is too big

Even if 10 percent die we will still have 115 crores
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Are you prepared to walk the talk along with your near & dear ones & be part of that 10-20 crores whom you say won't make it?
Holy Triad said:
I'm a chennaite,but due to the lockdown I shifted myself to my native place (near Chennai)
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Can't say what the macro situation across the state is but looking at the rates of infection in TN it seems bad across the board? I wonder why. For except TN all the other southern states seem to be doing much better.
 
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