Chinese Wuhan Virus Thread

How will they treat Malaria let alone COVID-19 if they don't maintain stocks ?
They don't. They will write prescription if you are lucky to find a doctor, though compounders and ward boys never let you feel their absence, sometimes they even perform minor surgeries as sarkari doctor is busy.

When you visit OPD in best ones there will be long lines yet doctor will spent most time talking, on phone or with their favorite commission agent MR.

How do hospitals in your place work ? Do they maintain stocks at all times or only during emergencies ?
You need to understand UP never had anything called public healthcare, at least not from when I am born. If you search you will find one okay govt. hospital on few crores of population so this gap is filled by private doctors, pharmacists (treat majority of population for minor diseases) and private hospitals absurdly expensive, over billing, unqualified doctors, it's ugly overall.

A decade back unless you are too poor or just taking your relative to hospital for formality and his life doesn't mean anything than only you will go to govt. hospital. Most lower middle class that valued their dear ones use to took them to private hospitals, most end up selling their property, their homes or savings or a lot of debt.

When Akhilesh came he atleast made building visible, removed encroachment, cleaned, even sanctioned/completed new wards but no improvement when it comes to doctors. Then came Yogi and he put Siddhant Nath Singh in charge, a very honest politician but couldn't change much and present health minister is non existent.

That's why it was all the more important to take strict precautions. Lock it down, we will collapse within minutes. Private hospitals have very limited beds as most patients don't get admit. One good private doctor diagnose hundreds of patients everyday, get fat commissions from diagnostic labs and MR for recommending their medicines.

Delhi have had way too better public and private ethical healthcare. UP is cursed with unethical corrupt healthcare system whose main purpose is make more money, even if its literally from selling poor's blood. There are few good doctors that keep the facade of trust on this profession going (talking strictly about UP).
 
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though compounders and ward boys never let you feel their absence, sometimes they even perform minor surgeries as sarkari doctor is busy.
WTF !!:eek::eek:
You need to understand UP never had anything called public healthcare, at least not from when I am born. If you search you will find one okay govt. hospital on few crores of population so this gap is filled by private doctors, pharmacists (treat majority of population for minor diseases) and private hospitals absurdly expensive, over billing, unqualified doctors, it's ugly overall.
There are some similarities here with our story. We have less people so technically we have more doctors per capita. If you are in Agartala then govt. hospitals are a better option that private for most ailments. The govt. hospitals are maintained(could be better but I am not complaining), they do have plenty of beds for normal situations but they are over run during emergencies, doctors are competent if a bit lazy, nurses are absolute assh*les(females more than males I don't know why). There are 4 major govt. hospitals and 1 major private hospital in Agartala, they are constantly being upgraded for infra and bed capacity. This being India pace of construction is slow. These hospitals combined have the capacity to take in about 1/3 of Agartala's population, this has been demonstrated in previous emergencies like floods. There are other minor hospitals, nursing homes and healthcare wards etc all of which combined can take in slightly less than half of Agartala's population. This combined with the abundance of 24x7 pharmacies means if you are in Agartala you should be fine.

Tripura has 8 districts and 23 sub-divisions, each sub-division has at least one minor govt. hospital. Some have more than one on account for their larger size(Sabroom sub-division for example), some have a major hospital on account for their relative prosperity(Udaipur, Ambassa etc). But the problem is there is no widespread network of pharmacies to support them, thus healthcare outside Agartala is problematic despite often having hospitals and other related infra. This created a trend among people to run to Agartala for every major or minor problem. This chokes up Agartala's hospitals and leaves the newer more recently established hospitals in the rural areas vacant.

The challenge for the administration would be to ensure enough supplies are available in the rural Tripura and also to prevent excessive migration to Agartala(the lockdown might have taken care of that). Anyway I have rambled on for long, I'll stop.
 
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Pune firm first in India to get government funding for Covid vaccine

Rohan Dua | TNN | Updated: Apr 12, 2020, 10:29 IST

NEW DELHI: The Union science and technology ministry will fund a Pune-based firm to develop a vaccine for Covid-19 which is expected to enter phase-1 trial in 18-20 months. Seagull Biosolutions is the first company the government is financially backing for coronavirus vaccine efforts. It will also produce at-home test kits for Covid-19 that can detect even asymptomatic infections.

For both purposes, Seagull will use its existing Active Virosome Technology (AVT) which can develop novel Active Virosome agents to induce antibodies. The firm is developing two kinds of agents to produce 19 types of neutralising antibodies to fight the new coronavirus. While the first agent will express the S protein — which mediates attachment of the virus to the host cell surface receptors — the other will express structural proteins of Covid-19.

The company, enrolled with the Union ministry under its Seed Support System scheme with the Technology Development Board, will conduct tests on wild mice to check efficacy of the two AV agents. The next round of tests would be on mice models of SARS disease and later on monkeys or another small animal. The AV-vaccine agent will then be prepared for phase-1 clinical trials.
Vishwas Joshi, founder and MD of the firm, told TOI that the vaccine could be fast-tracked if clearances for animal testing are given on time. Joshi also said their AVT platform has previously been used to develop vaccines for ebola, zika, chikungunya and dengue. “For coronavirus, we will evaluate the ability of AV agents to induce anti-Covid-19 neutralising antibodies and cellular immune responses,” he said.

The same AV agents are also being used by the firm to develop at-home test kits for Covid-19. The currently available polymerase chain reaction (PCR)-based diagnostic kits can detect active infections but cannot identify asymptomatic infections. In contrast, immunodiagnostic kits developed by the firm will detect antibodies to Covid-19 and, thus, identify asymptomatic infections too.
Department of science and technology (DST) secretary Ashutosh Sharma said the firm will help in diagnostics to break the chain of transmission as well as develop preventive measures, including safe and effective vaccines.

The department has earmarked Rs 56 crore for start-ups working on Covid-19 solutions under its ‘Centre for Augmenting WAR with Covid-19 Health Crisis (CAWACH)’ programme.

Pune firm first in India to get government funding for Covid vaccine | India News - Times of India
 
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The ministers have stashed it, they did not know such calamity can happen.
What you say does not happen, we have people trying to go to some place for no reason
There was a lady who went to bring her kid on scooty, drove for 1400 kms in HIJAB, Earlier we assumed that people care for their safety but due to Tablighis, the chances of exposure has increased. so let the infected be treated (and those who want to hide, die) the rest will be saved by preventing them from exposure.
Remember this disease takes just one to expose many.

I was talking about demanding money from the centre and asking centre what to do. When initially, centre told go for lock down many states did not take it seriously. Now they say they don't have money or resources. Well If states don't have money and resources then what's left in this country? All the industries and mines and raw materials are in states. This kind of demand is very odd.
 
WTF !!:eek::eek:

There are some similarities here with our story. We have less people so technically we have more doctors per capita. If you are in Agartala then govt. hospitals are a better option that private for most ailments. The govt. hospitals are maintained(could be better but I am not complaining), they do have plenty of beds for normal situations but they are over run during emergencies, doctors are competent if a bit lazy, nurses are absolute assh*les(females more than males I don't know why). There are 4 major govt. hospitals and 1 major private hospital in Agartala, they are constantly being upgraded for infra and bed capacity. This being India pace of construction is slow. These hospitals combined have the capacity to take in about 1/3 of Agartala's population, this has been demonstrated in previous emergencies like floods. There are other minor hospitals, nursing homes and healthcare wards etc all of which combined can take in slightly less than half of Agartala's population. This combined with the abundance of 24x7 pharmacies means if you are in Agartala you should be fine.

Tripura has 8 districts and 23 sub-divisions, each sub-division has at least one minor govt. hospital. Some have more than one on account for their larger size(Sabroom sub-division for example), some have a major hospital on account for their relative prosperity(Udaipur, Ambassa etc). But the problem is there is no widespread network of pharmacies to support them, thus healthcare outside Agartala is problematic despite often having hospitals and other related infra. This created a trend among people to run to Agartala for every major or minor problem. This chokes up Agartala's hospitals and leaves the newer more recently established hospitals in the rural areas vacant.

The challenge for the administration would be to ensure enough supplies are available in the rural Tripura and also to prevent excessive migration to Agartala(the lockdown might have taken care of that). Anyway I have rambled on for long, I'll stop.
You deal with emergencies so you have experience and infra to deal with it. We rarely have any emergency, if there are floods we let them die, if it's Japanese encephalitis we let them die, simple, it never becomes issue because we have to vote for caste. In any other case we will choke up Delhi because AIIMS is trusted brand.
 
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You deal with emergencies so you have experience and infra to deal with it. We rarely have any emergency, if there are floods we let them die, if it's Japanese encephalitis we let them die, simple, it never becomes issue because we have to vote for caste.
Every time a topic like this comes up I am somehow reminded of Singapore. I wonder if Singapore would be as prosperous as they are now if their population was significantly bigger, like say Malaysia or Philippines. I reckon they would be a lot worse off. Same thing here in a way. UP is massive in every metric. Thus even though the model of healthcare is same through out the country, per capita the quality of services is lower. I wonder if there is a way of improving healthcare services by changing the model. If so what model would it be. What about other sectors like education or nutrition or immunization ? Is there any particular model that you see to be effective in improving any of these sectors ? Surely there is something that works.

Voting for caste isn't prevalent here though.

In any other case we will choke up Delhi because AIIMS is trusted brand.
Some problems are universal I suppose. The Tripura govt. has been trying to use local ward officials to get the news out that the newly set up rural hospitals are good. They have good doctors and medicines and what not. The point is to get the rural folks hooked to these hospitals to relive the stress on Agartala's hospitals. So far this has had mixed results. The local hospitals are becoming popular for common ailments but for emergencies people still rush over to Agartala. The common complaint is about the lack of availability medicines. I doubt this model can be replicated in larger scale though.
 
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Pune firm first in India to get government funding for Covid vaccine

Rohan Dua | TNN | Updated: Apr 12, 2020, 10:29 IST

NEW DELHI: The Union science and technology ministry will fund a Pune-based firm to develop a vaccine for Covid-19 which is expected to enter phase-1 trial in 18-20 months. Seagull Biosolutions is the first company the government is financially backing for coronavirus vaccine efforts. It will also produce at-home test kits for Covid-19 that can detect even asymptomatic infections.

For both purposes, Seagull will use its existing Active Virosome Technology (AVT) which can develop novel Active Virosome agents to induce antibodies. The firm is developing two kinds of agents to produce 19 types of neutralising antibodies to fight the new coronavirus. While the first agent will express the S protein — which mediates attachment of the virus to the host cell surface receptors — the other will express structural proteins of Covid-19.

The company, enrolled with the Union ministry under its Seed Support System scheme with the Technology Development Board, will conduct tests on wild mice to check efficacy of the two AV agents. The next round of tests would be on mice models of SARS disease and later on monkeys or another small animal. The AV-vaccine agent will then be prepared for phase-1 clinical trials.
Vishwas Joshi, founder and MD of the firm, told TOI that the vaccine could be fast-tracked if clearances for animal testing are given on time. Joshi also said their AVT platform has previously been used to develop vaccines for ebola, zika, chikungunya and dengue. “For coronavirus, we will evaluate the ability of AV agents to induce anti-Covid-19 neutralising antibodies and cellular immune responses,” he said.

The same AV agents are also being used by the firm to develop at-home test kits for Covid-19. The currently available polymerase chain reaction (PCR)-based diagnostic kits can detect active infections but cannot identify asymptomatic infections. In contrast, immunodiagnostic kits developed by the firm will detect antibodies to Covid-19 and, thus, identify asymptomatic infections too.
Department of science and technology (DST) secretary Ashutosh Sharma said the firm will help in diagnostics to break the chain of transmission as well as develop preventive measures, including safe and effective vaccines.

The department has earmarked Rs 56 crore for start-ups working on Covid-19 solutions under its ‘Centre for Augmenting WAR with Covid-19 Health Crisis (CAWACH)’ programme.

Pune firm first in India to get government funding for Covid vaccine | India News - Times of India
Waste of money. The company is fraud. They came out of NCL. Know the laboratory and its people rally well. The website is extremely basic and not updated since 2014. They are taking public money and won't deliver anything in even 100 years. They are in "operation" since 2011. They dont have a product even now. ANY product. They started off to develop some vaccine for measles but they have nothing to show.
 
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The Latest Hydroxychloroquine Data, As of April 11

By Derek Lowe
11 April, 2020

We have new data on hydroxychloroquine therapy to discuss. The numbers will not clear anything up.

First off is an abstract from the Marseilles IHU group of Dr. Didier Raoult. It presents 1061 patients treated for at least 3 days with their hydroxychloroquine/azithromycin combination, with followup of at least 9 days. It includes the statement “98% of patients cured so far” and says also “No cardiac toxicity was observed”, and also says that mortality figures were improved in these patients as compared with others receiving standard-of-care without such treatment. The other release is a data table on these patients (there is no full manuscript as of yet). It does not include any sort of control group, nor (as far as I can see) does it even have a comparison in it to those other patients mentioned in the abstract. Let’s hold on to these thoughts as we discuss the next data.

Here is a preprint from a large multinational collaboration presenting data obtained from health care systems (claims data or electronic medical records) in Germany, Japan, Netherlands, Spain, UK, and the USA. It (1) compares the safety of hydroxychloroquine in rheumatoid arthritis patients (956, versus thost patients (310,350 of them) taking another common RA drug, sulfasalazine, (2) compares the safety of the combination of hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin taken together (in 323,122 patients) versus the combination of hydroxychloroquine and another common antibiotic, amoxicillin (in 351,956 patients). Nothing like digging through the big health databases, is there?

The good news is that the HCQ/sulfasalazine comparison does not show any real differences in adverse events over one-month courses of treatment. I should note that sulfasalazine is not the most side-effect-free medication in the whole pharmacopeia, but it has not been associated with (for example) QT prolongation, which is one of the things you worry about with hydroxychloroquine. The paper concludes that short-term HCQ monotherapy does appear to be safe, but notes that long-term HCQ dosing is indeed tied to increased cardiovascular mortality.

The trouble comes in with the azithromycin combination. Like many antibiotics (although not amoxicillin), AZM is in fact tied to QT prolongation in some patients, so what happens when it’s given along with HCQ, which has the same problem?

Worryingly, significant risks are identified for combination users of HCQ+AZM even in the short-term as proposed for COVID19 management, with a 15-20% increased risk of angina/chest pain and heart failure, and a two-fold risk of cardiovascular mortality in the first month of treatment.
That isn’t good. I am very glad to hear that the Raoult group has observed no cardiac events in their studies so far, but I wonder how they have managed to be so fortunate, given these numbers. The authors again:

As the world awaits the results of clinical trials for the anti-viral efficacy of HCQ in the treatment of SARS-Cov2 infection, this large scale, international real-world data network study enables us to consider the safety of the most popular drugs under consideration. HCQ appears to be largely safe in both direct and comparative analysis for short term use, but when used in combination with AZM this therapy carries double the risk of cardiovascular death in patients with RA. Whereas we used the collective experience of a million patients to build our confidence in the evidence around the safety profile, the current evidence around efficacy of HCQ+AZI in the treatment of covid-19 is quite limited and controversial.
Indeed it is. And this morning, there is a picture of what appears to be the summary page of a manuscript under review at the NEJM. This is quite irregular, of course; this stuff is not supposed to be floating around on Twitter. It is apparently a study from Detroit of 63 consecutive patients admitted with coronavirus infection, with 32 assigned to receive hydroxychloroquine therapy and the others to standard-of-care. So this is again not a large study, and is rather similar in size to the Wuhan study discussed here that showed some benefit.

That’s not the case in this work. If we are seeing is an accurate summary of the work, then HCQ treatment was actually associated with worse outcomes. I won’t go into more detail until this becomes more official and we can verify that we’re looking at a real manuscript – a quick check shows that the authors’ affiliation appear to be correct, but that many of them are ophthamologists, and I’m not sure what to make of that. I am of two minds about whether to mention it at all, but these are unusual circumstances. More to come as the situation gets clearer.

Update: here is another new preprint from a multinational team lead out of Brazil. It enrolled 81 patients in a trial of high-dose chloroquine (note: not hydroxychloroquine as this post initially stated) (600 mg b.i.d. over ten days, total dose 12g) or low-dose (450mg b.i.d. on the first day, qd thereafter for the next four, total dose 2.7g). All patients also received azithromycin and ceftriaxone (a cephalosporin antibiotic). The high-dose patients showed more severe QT prolongation and there a trend toward higher lethality compared to the low dose. The overall fatality rate across both arms of the study was 13.5% (so far), which they say overlaps with the historical fatality rate of patients not receiving chloroquine. The authors actually had to stop recruiting patients for the high-dose arm of the study due to the cardiovascular events, but they’re continuing to enroll people in the low-dose group to look at overall mortality. The paper mentions that chloroquine and HCQ have been mandated as the standard therapy in Brazil, so there is no way to run a control group, though.

The Latest Hydroxychloroquine Data, As of April 11
 
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