Brexit and Future of UK : Discussions

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UK fishing industry caught between rock and hard place on trade talks

Boris Johnson has vowed to take back control of the UK’s “spectacular maritime wealth” but at 6am on Monday in Brixham, England’s biggest fishing port by value, there is nervousness that the prime minister’s efforts to defend the industry in post-Brexit EU trade talks could end in disaster. (...)

The problem, rarely acknowledged by ministers, is that Britons do not much like the fish caught in the UK’s rich fishing waters. To the extent the country eats fish, it is mainly the “big five” of cod, haddock, tuna, salmon and prawns — most of which are imported. (...)

But Mr Johnson recognises that fishing is not just about numbers. Even if Britons are not big fish eaters, the industry has a place in the nation’s psyche; (...)

Jim Portus, chief executive of the South West Fish Producers’ Organisation, said the boat owners he represents believe Brexit is a chance to redress historic wrongs; (...)
Mr Portus claims new boats — or second-hand boats — could be acquired in months to take up the extra quota and he insists that EU consumers would still buy the fish even with high tariffs after the transition period expires. (...)

But Mr Portus’s optimism is not shared by Mitch Tonks, a restaurateur behind the Rockfish chain and the upmarket Seahorse in Dartmouth, who said British consumers would not take up the slack if tariffs were imposed and reduced exports to the EU.
“The sale of the fish is as important as the fishing,” he said, on a regular early-morning tour of Brixham fish market. “You could end up with fish rotting on the docks.”

Tariffs on exports would (...) be a catastrophe for (...) business and the fishing boats that supply it. Barring a radical change in the dietary habits of Britain, (...) the sector would be “stuffed” (...)
 

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So those fish taste differently in our waters? :ROFLMAO: What will the Remainers come up with next?
 

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The vote that really caused Brexit happened in 2008, when a Labour government with only 35% of the popular vote blocked a referendum on The Lisbon Treaty.


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In any case, the UK has always considered the EU to be just a free trade area, which was not true when it joined the EU, and then worked against any progress of the EU in its other dimensions.
In the end the UK only joined to thwart the project and that is why we are glad they are leaving. But we are not against the UK only we don't want our interests to be harmed and that is why I think there will be no agreement at BREXIT.
 
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In any case, the UK has always considered the EU to be just a free trade area, which was not true when it joined the EU, and then worked against any progress of the EU in its other dimensions.
In the end the UK only joined to thwart the project and that is why we are glad they are leaving. But we are not against the UK only we don't want our interests to be harmed and that is why I think there will be no agreement at BREXIT.
It looks like your Macron is the reason there'll be no deal, which suits us perfectly, no deal and Macron gets the blame. Look forward to a tax hike.

However, the point was that the UK could and should have vetoed The Lisbon Treaty.
 

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The sole real interest of a no deal is for the environnment : less fishing in the UK seas, ie more fish there :);):)
 

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Who care of German automakers?
Merkel.
No deal and in a couple off years no more automakers in uk, except some small sales ones as Aston Martin, MG, Lotus.
Yeah, except you won't be able to sell any European cars here unless they're made here, and we currently import more than 3 cars for every one we export. So your analysis that there won't be any automakers here is way off. They will have to be here to sell here.
 

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Merkel.

Yeah, except you won't be able to sell any European cars here unless they're made here, and we currently import more than 3 cars for every one we export. So your analysis that there won't be any automakers here is way off. They will have to be here to sell here.
In this case it is most likely that you will have to do without cars.
 

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In this case it is most likely that you will have to do without cars.
Clearly we won't though because the brands still left here like Ford, Vauxhall and JLR will supply them you fool. It will be Peugeot, Renault, Citroen, BMW, VW, Audi, Mercedes, SEAT etc. that lose out.

People might be prepared to wait and pay a premium for Porsches, but certainly no one will do that for any of your motorised biscuit tins.:ROFLMAO:
 
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Yeah, except you won't be able to sell any European cars here unless they're made here, and we currently import more than 3 cars for every one we export. So your analysis that there won't be any automakers here is way off. They will have to be here to sell here.
It's mainly a problem for the next UK jobless.