Army Aviation Corps : Updates & Discussions

Hydra

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Yes. 'Cause the IA hijacked the deal, so they got the remaining 17 options. It was 22+17. The IAF was supposed to get 2 squadrons with 16-18 each, but they have now settled for 1 with 22.

More Apaches will come, all for the IA. They want 1 squadron for each SC.
So howmany more Apache will come, asper this report army ask only 11 more.
 

Fatalis

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So howmany more Apache will come, asper this report army ask only 11 more.
Army is asking for 11 more and as per the report, the CDS wants a study to find how many gunships are actually required after that more numbers will be ordered.

While the Army has been pushing the case for 11 more Apaches, the Chief of Defence Staff (CDS) recently ordered a study on the number of armoured helicopters required which is expected to commence end-November or early-December. So, officials said, the call on additional Apaches would be taken once the study was complete.
 
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Ashwin

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Such a waste of a purchase for a service with the least amount of modernization budget.

Here we have Naravane tutoring others about duplication between services.

 

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So howmany more Apache will come, asper this report army ask only 11 more.

11 more is only to get to 39 max that can be purchased right now without starting a new process. They are still figuring out what the final number will be. We may see anywhere between 50-100 more, but I'd personally like to see up to 300, enough to equip 25 armored brigades (250) and 2 MSCs (40).
 

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11 more is only to get to 39 max that can be purchased right now without starting a new process. They are still figuring out what the final number will be. We may see anywhere between 50-100 more, but I'd personally like to see up to 300, enough to equip 25 armored brigades (250) and 2 MSCs (40).
You mentioned once that we have 14 corps and each corp wants 3 squadrons of helicopters comprising of 1 squadron each of utility, attack and transport helicopters. Here each squadron is having 18-20 units.

It gives a total of 42 squadrons having a requirement of around 840 helicopters. We are having/procuring:
90 ALH Dhruv
75 + 25* Rudra
5 + 95* LCH
6* Apache
259* LUH

It gives a total figure of around 555 helicopters. We can also get a minimum of 11 more apaches.

We will also see the induction of IMRH which might take the number close to 800.
 

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You mentioned once that we have 14 corps and each corp wants 3 squadrons of helicopters comprising of 1 squadron each of utility, attack and transport helicopters. Here each squadron is having 18-20 units.

It gives a total of 42 squadrons having a requirement of around 840 helicopters. We are having/procuring:
90 ALH Dhruv
75 + 25* Rudra
5 + 95* LCH
6* Apache
259* LUH

It gives a total figure of around 555 helicopters. We can also get a minimum of 11 more apaches.

We will also see the induction of IMRH which might take the number close to 800.

Army has an outstanding requirement for 60 Tactical Battle Support Helicopters, which will be fulfilled with the IMRH.

 

randomradio

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You mentioned once that we have 14 corps and each corp wants 3 squadrons of helicopters comprising of 1 squadron each of utility, attack and transport helicopters. Here each squadron is having 18-20 units.

It gives a total of 42 squadrons having a requirement of around 840 helicopters. We are having/procuring:
90 ALH Dhruv
75 + 25* Rudra
5 + 95* LCH
6* Apache
259* LUH

It gives a total figure of around 555 helicopters. We can also get a minimum of 11 more apaches.

We will also see the induction of IMRH which might take the number close to 800.

That's for a division.

We may have as many as 120 IBGs. So each IBG will need at least 8 attack/armed helicopters. So the overall requirement would be 960. That's a mix of Apache, LCH and other armed ones. Right now, we only have somewhat of a committment for 2 per brigade.

When it comes to transport, once the IA is done with its modernization, they will have 200-300 LUHs, 200-300 IMRH and 150+ ALH. And a bit smaller numbers with IAF as well. There's no real end to how many transporters we need. We will need 8-10 per brigade here as well at the minimum. So that's 960 to 1200, and it's possible. We have 400-450 Chetaks, 250 Mi-17s and 300+ ALH, so we already have 1000. Light could climb to 500-600, IMRH could climb to 400 and 300-400 ALH, that will give us 1200-1400.

A squadron could be 8-10, 12/13, 16/17 or 24.

I guess the IA will know the ratio of Apaches and LCHs by early next year. We could end up with just 3 more full squadrons for the SCs or we could buy many for the plains (6-8 squadrons) or for the entire army (14 squadrons). Or it's possible even the corps will be reorganized. Let's see.
 

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11 more is only to get to 39 max that can be purchased right now without starting a new process. They are still figuring out what the final number will be. We may see anywhere between 50-100 more, but I'd personally like to see up to 300, enough to equip 25 armored brigades (250) and 2 MSCs (40).
132 numbers of Apache is sufficient, if IA/ place orders 90 & follow on LCHs.