Akash-NG has a official operational range of 30kms.
Stealth aircraft would have to be flying recklessly or under false assumption like that f-35 was flying in Iran for Akash-NG to get a chance.
Air Engagement of Operation Sindoor : Analysis
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Stealth aircraft would have to be flying recklessly or under false assumption like that f-35 was flying in Iran for Akash-NG to get a chance.
IAF was beaten back on 7th of May but afterwards cucked the Porkis hard. If GOI ROE was indeed free and IAF still did not fire at PAF then its bad. But idt that happened.
The entire premise of Op Sindoor makes no sense. Makes me question the competence of everyone involved.
Modi & his clowns wanted a military retaliation but were also afraid of full scale warfare, so they instructed IAF to not strike PAF assets. So, no SEAD which made them sitting ducks when they approached the border.
War is not a game. Its gambling with life & death. IAF rightly got their asses handed to them on 7th May. They were lucky that only a few a/c were downed.
The fact that IAF agreed to such an op shows how deeply incompetent or unserious these airforce personnel are. Also, you can notice a farcical explanation attributed to the airforce for not revealing their loses, which falls apart on simple counter-questioning.
Abhinanadan comms were jammed so he didn't get order to come back, court martialing him is retarded idea. If you want to punish then punish MoD babus who didnt clear SDR upgrades in time.
The EOTS is effective at max 20-25kms otherwise missile itself can hit other targets beyond that.
The interesting part is PAF only used j-10's for barcap the strike missions were entirely done by their mirages and f-16. The Chinese ac's don't seem to have good strike capabilities.
They just spammed pl-15's and hoped for the best. Our objectives were met. There wouldn't have been any response if they hadn't retaliated with their mirages and f-16's on our airbases which were easily repelled and they lost ac's in response which got quickly covered.
They attempted drone swarming and that also got dealt with our l/40's
They didn't bring j-10's any where near the Indian border knowing very well they would be shotdown by our AD and AF.
Next day we harop'd their AD and sent storm shadows.
Later they retaliated with their fatah 2 which we responded with the brahmos strikes on their airbases and later the kirana hills strike which again got covered up.
It's quite amusing how members have eaten up entire Pakistani propaganda without even realising.
Atleast read the Swiss report on the entire engagement.
Yeah , conversations with him tend to follow this pattern .
At the end of the day , you're confused , other participants are confused , onlookers are confused & best of all he himself is confused.
Btw you spelt my user handle wrong which is the reason I wasn't tagged.
Frankly I've my doubts SAAB Erieye is linked with the Chinese FAs. US would eat Sweden alive if such technology was shared with either the Paxtanis or especially the Chinese.
Fauji Foundation wouldn't have gotten Chinese AEW if that were the case notwithstanding those Chinese AEWs were prematurely retired.
It was spit & run. They just shot in the dark & scrammed.
I am of the firm belief that we will not be going for another Russian fighter jet as there no chatter from government or air force quarters except few cyber tweeter handles pushing for another Russian jet procurement, going as low as low suggesting 2 squadrons of jets.
People suggesting Su jet are loosing the focus that IAF isn't looking for only stop gap measure now. Rather it's looking towards future capabilities addition via collaboration with foreign capable tech giants as its requirement for next decade and half is already covered under domestic production like Tejas MK1A, MK2, AMCA MK1. That should take IAF to mid 2030s at least if development and production timelines are kept in check by the power above.
Do you know what's the range of AKASH NG? And do you believe it can remain hidden from prying eyes of stealth jets? And do you believe stealth jets don't have the sufficient range stand off weapons to degrade the AKASH NG? Why do you believe an stealth jet will enter the short kill zone or AKASH NG?
J-10C does not have the 2 extra hardpoints necessary to act as MMRCA, it's only slightly better than LCA Mk1/A. It has 4 conformal hardpoints with limited utility.
HAL CMD himself said, talking are going on about how much it will take to produce su57 in india, which means gov. Is Involved.
How long you've been hearing regarding 114 MRFA/Rafale saga? That deal is still not signed cause French have denied source code access of its MCs. But we will get there. So, if you think I should stop until first Su-57/60 MKI is locally produced in India, then that would mean keeping silent for several more years looking at our standard Indian defence procurement timelines. So I shall continue to talk
HAL CMD has said a lot of things which are mostly a way of negotiation tactics and saying if you don't give me what I want then I will go to the opposite party and you wouldn't like that a bit!
So? You claimed there's no chatter from gov. Side.
I said discussions between HAL and UAC reaching this level shows gov. Is involved.
HAL is a state owned arm. Sure there might be marketing and stuff but if the gov of India didnt want UAC to conduct anything then UAC can do nothing. This means they're letting HAL do the evaluation. Whether this will lead to orders is something else entirely but they have the approval for an evaluation.
Man, it's downright laughable to see people having trouble accepting that Indian Gov. is "officially" negotiating with the Russians via HAL & UAC to manufacture Su-57s in India as our frontline fighter jet to deal with Chinese Stealth jets until AMCA matures sometime in late 2030s/early 2040s
. GOI just doesn't want an "off-the-shelf" jet on which it has no control but it wants to build whole fighter ecosystem in India as per their "Make in India" policy.
HAL can't go on its own whims or caprice being a government owned institution, but is bound to explore only those avenues which GOI wants it to tread. Period.
. GOI just doesn't want an "off-the-shelf" jet on which it has no control but it wants to build whole fighter ecosystem in India as per their "Make in India" policy.HAL can't go on its own whims or caprice being a government owned institution, but is bound to explore only those avenues which GOI wants it to tread. Period.
There is no chatter from the government side. MOD is government, HAL isn't. HAL is a government owned entity, not the government side unless you square all Tom D!ck & harry government entity as government side.
You don't want government side to pop up at every nook & corner believe me.
Chatter is about European projects, not the Russian projects.
Or they would want to project the presumption that India is under active negotiations with Russian entity giving HAL the leeway/leverage for better bargaining.
Waah, mental gymnastics to cope now.
**As of March 2026, the Defence Secretary indicated that India is still considering proposals from both Russia and the U.S. but has not taken a final call, with reports of "unresolved evaluation issues"**.
This clearly shows talks/chatter from gov. Side going on, the defence secretary himself talked about the chatter/talks happens and are continuing.
That's an *assumption* by your side, with nothing to back it up with.
Again, defense secretary himself talked about discussions taking place.
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Mf's with fragile ego, can't afford to look wrong, I guess.
J10 is equipped with only air to air weapons (Pl15 and Pl10) .I have not seen any mainstream A2G weapon loaded on J10.Ground strikes were conducted through JF17 using CM400AKG ALBM on S400 positions.
For Pakistan, J10C in air and SH-15s on ground did incredible job.