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The crashsite debris was too small to be a fighter, even if it was broken up. Another crashsite was that of a Heron.
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Another one.
Unidentified Aircraft Crashes in Punjab’s Bathinda, Leaving 1 Dead and 9 Injured
Authorities have sealed off the crash site in Bathinda, where an unidentified aircraft went down; officials are still working to determine its origin.
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Aircraft crash during 'Operation Sindoor' in Punjab's Bathinda: 1 man from Haryana dead, 9 injured; police seal area, media restricted from site Aircraft crashes during 'Operation Sindoor' in Punjab's Bathinda: 1 man from Haryana dead, 9 injured; police seal 2-km-area , media restricted from site - Punjab News
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1K views · 133 reactions | Rafale Shot Down by Pakistan’s J-10C: M88 Engine Debris Found in Bathinda. Concrete evidence has emerged of a Rafale being shot down by Pakistan’s J-10C. Debris of the M88 engine, used exclusively in Rafale jets—was discove
Rafale Shot Down by Pakistan’s J-10C: M88 Engine Debris Found in Bathinda. Concrete evidence has emerged of a Rafale being shot down by Pakistan’s J-10C. Debris of the M88 engine, used exclusively in...
Yes. Unfortunately. We also found that J-10CE + PL-15 is a deadly combo. J-35AE with internally mounted PL-15 is going to be even much lethal for all our air assets. Rumour mill also says that PAF has asked the Chinese to integrate their 500kms VLRAAM PL-17 with both J-10CE & future J-35AE(externally mounted). Our Phalcons and Netra(s) would be in deep trouble once PAF acquires this missile.
Nothing suggest the rear part/afterburner of the engine broke off when aircraft was going mach 0.7, afterburner's reported location is in the same village, so possible aircraft was limping/barely flying when it finally broke off at low altitude, shortly after plane crashed nearby.
Acc. To this poster, chances are it could have been hq9 that took down rafale
Yes, some early report also suggested that all our attrition was due to HQ-9s. But by saying that we found J-10CE + PL-15 combo to be effective, I didn't mean that our Rafale was shot down by that. Maybe, it wasn't shot down, rather suffered some nasty accident during return mission. But just the fact that PAF was able to lob the missile from 200kms away completely changed the calculus of our air warfare, IMO.
) are coming to deny PAF having this VLO advantage.
One thing is certain, that we did lose one Rafale. I've been saying this since we all saw M-88 wreckage. Now the report which suggests that IAF is looking to upgrade 35 F3R-I Rafales to F4+ standard confirms that loss beyond any doubt.
This PL-15 kill chain theory seems bullshit to me without considering how BVR missile kill range reduces in real combat scenerio full of EW.. let me add some of counter points -
Yup,
You are right on that ARH BVRAAMs outclass SARH SAM ...but that's irrelevant to the 150km + tail chase rafale kill theory.
A rafale went down period with meteor. There are enough videos of it period. One Mig 29 & mirage 2000 also went down that's all. Rest are all porkiye BS claims.
People in this forum are weird. They like to beleive things never happened are reality.
One Rafale was lost along with one Mirage 2000 and one Mikoyan MiG-29...... earlier one MiG-21 had gone down in 2019 & for all these jets there is visual confirmation. In contrast, there is no solid proof of any Pakistani aircraft being shot down beyond Indian claims based on radar data & possible intelligence inputs from within Pakistan, which may or may not be accurate. The IAF’s gamble on May 7 came at a cost in the air even as it struck terror facilities on the ground..... . Rest three days it was all IAF show with PAF nowhere to be seen thanks to IAF launching standoff weapons from safer distances rectifying earlier mistakes. They failed to achieved air superiority but had the momentum to which they & rest of the military & political brass squandered away like they always had in the past.
