Brexit and Future of UK : Discussions

Hello- topic is self explanatory. I'm creating this thread to show the strength of British character for historical record. We will keep a detailed record of companies deserting Britian so that when Britain prevails over them we can send this thread and say screw you...UK has won!

Unilever planning to move to netherlands (good luck selling Surf to Britain 'dutches')

Consumer goods giant Unilever to leave FTSE 100 after relocating to the Netherlands
 
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https://www.theguardian.com/busines...-moves-euro-clearing-from-london-to-Frankfurt

Deutsche Bank moves some operations to Frankfurt as Brexit risks bite | DW | 30.07.2018

"The London Stock Exchange Group, the owner of LCH, has warned that up to 100,000 jobs could be lost if the City of London — the business and financial district — lost its status as the euro-clearing hub."



Considering how London is known for its financial services, this exodus will cost them dearly if it continues.

yeah even goldman is under the delusion that they can go to europe and survive. They'll learn their lesson fast.
 
Try citing even 7.
Every time you post. E.g. the disposal of Saddam Hussein was an excuse for terrorism. The removal of the Taliban was an excuse for terrorism. The terrorist sympathiser, i.e. you, will always try blame all the civilian deaths in Iraq on the coalition. 19th century colonialism is an excuse for 21st century terrorism etc. I've come across your kind before.
 
Every time you post. E.g. the disposal of Saddam Hussein was an excuse for terrorism. The removal of the Taliban was an excuse for terrorism. The terrorist sympathiser, i.e. you, will always try blame all the civilian deaths in Iraq on the coalition. 19th century colonialism is an excuse for 21st century terrorism etc. I've come across your kind before.
1. I never said anything about Taliban. Please quote where I said that.

2. Removal of Saddam Hussian indeed brought a flood of Islamic terrorists into power. It is not my own observation but also observation of quite a few others as well.

3. Death of civilians in Iraq invasion was indeed caused by Coalition. It was a war, a war on people who had nothing to do with west. Do you expect people to not die in war? West brought war on these people in Iraq and when west went away it left them on the mercy of Daesh. Do you disagree? Actually refer above.

4. 19th Century colonialism was indeed a dictatorship and mass murder of non europeans. These facts are not even controversial and are widely agreed even by western historians. Why is it so hard for you agree upon? I never linked 21st century terrorism to 19th century colonialism. 21st century terrorism is purely a product of military-political game by world powers and religious extremism.

5. Those were not even 2 points. Far cry from 100 points.

There is no "My kind". It is just me. I can only answer for what I say and do.
 
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1. I never said anything about Taliban. Please quote where I said that.

2. Removal of Saddam Hussian indeed brought a flood of Islamic terrorists into power. It is not my own observation but also observation of quite a few others as well.

3. Death of civilians in Iraq invasion was indeed caused by Coalition. It was a war, a war on people who had nothing to do with west. Do you expect people to not die in war? West brought war on these people in Iraq and when west went away it left them on the mercy of Daesh. Do you disagree? Actually refer above.

4. 19th Century colonialism was indeed a dictatorship and mass murder of non europeans. These facts are not even controversial and are widely agreed even by western historians. Why is it so hard for you agree upon? I never linked 21st century terrorism to 19th century colonialism. 21st century terrorism is purely a product of military-political game by world powers and religious extremism.

5. Those were not even 2 points. Far cry from 100 points.

There is no "My kind". It is just me. I can only answer for what I say and do.
The independence of India led to sectarian terrorism too. Do that mean it was wrong?
List of massacres in India - Wikipedia

The vast majority of non-militant civilians were killed by Iraqi insurgents.

Daesh is a very diverse mix of people. Foreign Jihadis, local Sunnis, remnants of the Ba'ath Party etc.

There were lots of historical empires that did the same, e.g. India's Cholas. But the day we start using centuries-old acts to justify terrorism in the present is the day the world ends.

I have not the time to list them all. You are a stereotype, a replica of what is commonly encountered on the internet. Those who try reflect the murders of radical Islam onto the West, just because Western forces were present at the time. Iraqi civilian death were predominantly caused by Sunni on Shia insurgents bombing each others schools, mosques and markets every day of the week for a decade. You will find Muslim violence throughout the world, whether NATO is involved or not. So the fact you think NATO presence somehow causes, or even excuses Muslim violence is ridiculous. Philippines, Myanmar, Chechnya, Indonesia, Nigeria........
 
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I have not the time to list them all. You are a stereotype, a replica of what is commonly encountered on the internet.
Its not that you don't have time, its more like you don't have points. You know, searching for my posts on this forum is not too hard, neither my posts are too numerous. There are less than 500. I, for example, tried searching Taliban in my posts. The first time the word occurred was in reply to your question 2 posts back...
Those who try reflect the murders of radical Islam onto the West, just because Western forces were present at the time. Iraqi civilian death were predominantly caused by Sunni on Shia insurgents bombing each others schools, mosques and markets every day of the week for a decade. You will find Muslim violence throughout the world, whether NATO is involved or not. So the fact you think NATO presence somehow causes, or even excuses Muslim violence is ridiculous. Philippines, Myanmar, Chechnya, Indonesia, Nigeria........
My point was specific to middle east. The majority of influx of immigrants and refugees in Europe today are from middle east, displaced by violence due to Daesh terrorists. All the other points of violence, for the context of refugee/immigrant crisis in both EU and UK, are irrelevant.

If you want to count specifically violence all over the world, I guess entire Muslim violence is minuscule in-front of atrocities and violence of two world wars : essentially a western affair. WW1 and WW2 are two events in human history which overshadow any violence ever done. WW1 was rooted in imperialism and WW2 as rooted in WW1 and treaty of Versailles. Essentially, both were European affairs.

The independence of India led to sectarian terrorism too. Do that mean it was wrong?
List of massacres in India - Wikipedia
Thats a straw-man argument. Does the world war 1 and 2 while led to numerous deaths in Europe make say 7-11/london tube bombing 'right'? I believe not. Infact it will be ridiculous to suggest that, right?
On the same lines, what happened before arrival of British, wars in the subcontinent, Muslim conquest and Muslim violence and what happened after British left is no excuse for mass murder committed by British for their own narrow interests.

Iraqi civilian death were predominantly caused by Sunni on Shia insurgents bombing each others schools, mosques and markets every day of the week for a decade.
Yes, middle east has been in conflict for long and has also been peaceful as well. But genocidal forces like ISIS only came into being by a specific condition precipitated by NATO's war on terror in Iraq.
 
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Its not that you don't have time, its more like you don't have points. You know, searching for my posts on this forum is not too hard, neither my posts are too numerous. There are less than 500. I, for example, tried searching Taliban in my posts. The first time the word occurred was in reply to your question 2 posts back...

My point was specific to middle east. The majority of influx of immigrants and refugees in Europe today are from middle east, displaced by violence due to Daesh terrorists. All the other points of violence, for the context of refugee/immigrant crisis in both EU and UK, are irrelevant.

If you want to count specifically violence all over the world, I guess entire Muslim violence is minuscule in-front of atrocities and violence of two world wars : essentially a western affair. WW1 and WW2 are two events in human history which overshadow any violence ever done. WW1 was rooted in imperialism and WW2 as rooted in WW1 and treaty of Versailles. Essentially, both were European affairs.


Thats a straw-man argument. Does the world war 1 and 2 while led to numerous deaths in Europe make say 7-11/london tube bombing 'right'? I believe not. Infact it will be ridiculous to suggest that, right?
On the same lines, what happened before arrival of British, wars in the subcontinent, Muslim conquest and Muslim violence and what happened after British left is no excuse for mass murder committed by British for their own narrow interests.


Yes, middle east has been in conflict for long and has also been peaceful as well. But genocidal forces like ISIS only came into being by a specific condition precipitated by NATO's war on terror in Iraq.
When you fail to differentiate between civilians killed by militias and any killed by NATO and then use that to justify or excuse attacks in Europe, that is defending terrorists.

Actually they aren't, most of the refugees threw away their passports and came from as far away as Pakistan, Iran and Africa. And refugees were already coming from the Middle East every year fleeing the now displaced tyrannical regimes anyway.

WW1 was more complicated. WW2 was against Nazis and Imperialism. Over the last decades nearly all global violence, war and terrorism, has involved Muslims. Breakaway of Sumatra under Sharia Law, IS in the Philippines, Chechen rebels, Uyghurs in China, Boko Haram in Africa, Somalia, Sudan, Mali, Middle East, terror attacks in Europe and North America. All Muslims.

No that wasn't the point. The point was that the road to democracy has never been violence free, but that doesn't mean it's wrong. 7/11 was nothing to do with a road to democracy, it was Islamic fascism. You can't remove evil dictators with a dove and an olive branch.

That's because IS feed on instability anywhere, just as all radical Islam does. That doesn't mean that NATO is to blame just because it's present. That's like blaming a volcanic eruption or earthquake on a passing tourist. The democratic transition in Iraq and Afghanistan could have gone peacefully were it not for the fascist nature of radical Islamists like IS and the Taliban. If I build a school and someone blows it up, is that my fault or the bomber's fault? Your are a liar and a moral coward sir.
 
British Empire didn't invade Europe or attack Pearl Habour, or gas an entire ethnicity en masse for no reason other than their ethnicity.

You said Imperialism, and British empire was not imperialistic ?