ADA AMCA - Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft

[batman]

"AMCA can be good in BVR & WVR with LOAL mode CCMs, but in gun-fight w/o TVC it'll loose mostly against a TVC jet."

NOPE ! compared to su57 quite disappointed by iwb sure 4 aams is not good (bvr class that too ) number decreases to 2 if ccms included
sure diff roles but ig we must have changed it to fit 6 aams and 2ccms with the current config it faces the same issue of f35 increment of frontal rcs
due to pylon based solution which will be likely incorporated for amca
but yea AMCA design is more western VLO influence than Russian way

even f35 will get 6 aams soon ( ik " a "variant)

the only fix i can think of cca or tailor made weapons
or iwb change very unlikely
speaking of f35 and amca dogfight f35 will see first kill first AIM9x Block 2 with DAS and amca dosent have DAS in mk1 variant btw ( mind you f35 has highest nose authority iirc )

the only formidable plane against VLO is SU57 thats a fact

There is talks that there will be folding fin version of Astra being made for AMCA and hence it will probably be able to fit 5-6 A2A missiles in it.

 

[Lolwa]

Told you rd-33mk needs to be brought in. Amreeka is useless for us.

 

[quark007]

There is talks that there will be folding fin version of Astra being made for AMCA and hence it will probably be able to fit 5-6 A2A missiles in it.

nope ! u can see the design dont think so !!

 

[batman]

nope ! u can see the design dont think so !!View attachment 52947

This pictures doesn't show anything to disprove what I stated, the folding fin astra will fit more snuggly and will enable more missiles to be put inside most likely.

 

[quark007]

This pictures doesn't show anything to disprove what I stated, the folding fin astra will fit more snuggly and will enable more missiles to be put inside most likely.

"This pictures doesn't mean anything to disprove what I stated" why ?? how??
well im telling abt current astra clipping fins and making space is one part of a problem their are other stuff too
and if any changes takes place well that a new bvr which will again undergo testing and improvements

 

[lmaoxd]

This pictures doesn't show anything to disprove what I stated, the folding fin astra will fit more snuggly and will enable more missiles to be put inside most likely.

No, the 6 BVR plan is for the AMCA mk2 where they plan to use a staggered arrangement to hit 6BVRs. At the end of the day there are limits to what a medium weight aircraft can carry in terms of internal volume.

 

[batman]

No, the 6 BVR plan is for the AMCA mk2 where they plan to use a staggered arrangement to hit 6BVRs. At the end of the day there are limits to what a medium weight aircraft can carry in terms of internal volume.

as far as I'm aware, the internal layout size of AMCA mk1 and mk2 is same, hence the payload increase using the fin folded Astra might be possible in both.

"This pictures doesn't mean anything to disprove what I stated" why ?? how??
well im telling abt current astra clipping fins and making space is one part of a problem their are other stuff too
and if any changes takes place well that a new bvr which will again undergo testing and improvements

I didn't mention the current Astra did I? You're new here, this discussion has already taken place earlier. I'm talking about the payload increase with the fin folded astra variant for the AMCA not the current one.