Israel, US Strike Iran After Weeks Of Warning, Explosions Heard In Tehran

Propulsion is the only issue really. Even that is not a big problem. We have both guidance and propulsion. Nobody is really serious in producing it because brahmos is just a superior option. Plus the present government isn't really serious about having influence beyond the immediate subcontinent.
We could mass produce it.


The Russians came up with a rather elegant solution to the range extension problem back in the day. They simply fitted their Kh-55 CMs with conformal fuel tanks.

Range reportedly went up from 2500km to 3500km.


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Let me also add from ai since my old comment was timed out,
  • Tomahawk (Block V series) – United States
    • Type: Subsonic land-attack/anti-ship cruise missile (multi-platform: ship, sub, ground).
    • Range: Up to ~2,500 km (optimized variants).
    • Speed: ~Mach 0.74–0.9.
    • Engine: Turbofan (Williams F107/F415 series).
    • Why top-tier: Combat-proven in multiple wars (Gulf, Iraq, Syria, Libya), excellent accuracy (CEP ~1–10 m), real-time retargeting, stealthy low-altitude flight. Backbone of US/NATO long-range precision strikes.
  • Kalibr (3M-14/3M-54 family) – Russia
    • Type: Subsonic/supersonic land-attack/anti-ship (ship, sub, air, ground launch).
    • Range: 1,500–2,500+ km (land-attack variants).
    • Speed: Subsonic cruise (~Mach 0.8); some variants supersonic terminal sprint (~Mach 3).
    • Engine: Turbofan (or turbojet in some configs) for cruise; solid rocket booster.
    • Why top-tier: Proven in Syria/Ukraine, high versatility, hard to intercept in terminal phase for some versions.
  • AGM-158 JASSM-ER / LRASM (AGM-158C) – United States
    • Type: Stealthy air-launched subsonic cruise (JASSM-ER for land; LRASM for anti-ship).
    • Range: ~1,000 km (JASSM-ER); similar for LRASM.
    • Speed: Subsonic (~Mach 0.8–0.9).
    • Engine: Turbofan (Teledyne J402 or Williams F107-class).
    • Why top-tier: Extreme stealth/low observability, autonomous targeting, anti-ship seeker on LRASM. Highly survivable against advanced air defenses.
  • Storm Shadow / SCALP-EG – UK/France/Italy
    • Type: Air-launched subsonic stealth cruise missile (land-attack).
    • Range: 250–560+ km (export variants shorter).
    • Speed: Subsonic (~Mach 0.8–0.95).
    • Engine: Turbofan (Microturbo TRI 60 or similar).
    • Why top-tier: Stealth features, terrain-following, bunker-busting warhead. Proven in Libya, Syria, and Ukraine (via Storm Shadow transfers).
  • Kh-101 / Kh-102 – Russia
    • Type: Air-launched subsonic stealth cruise (nuclear/conventional).
    • Range: 2,500–5,000+ km (extended claims).
    • Speed: Subsonic (~Mach 0.6–0.78).
    • Engine: Turbofan.
    • Why top-tier: Very long range, low-altitude flight for evasion, used extensively in Ukraine.
  • BrahMos (extended range variants) – India/Russia
    • Type: Supersonic multi-platform cruise (anti-ship/land-attack).
    • Range: Up to ~800–900 km (newer ER versions).
    • Speed: Mach 2.8–3.0.
    • Engine: Ramjet.
    • Why top-tier: World's fastest operational supersonic cruise missile, hard to intercept due to speed, precision, and multi-role capability.
  • 3M22 Zircon (Tsirkon) – Russia
    • Type: Hypersonic cruise/anti-ship (also land targets).
    • Range: 1,000–1,500+ km.
    • Speed: Mach 8–9.
    • Engine: Scramjet (air-breathing hypersonic).
    • Why top-tier: Sustained hypersonic speed makes it nearly uninterceptable; game-changer for naval/air defense penetration.
  • CJ-10 / DF-10 family – China
    • Type: Subsonic land-attack cruise (ground/ship launch).
    • Range: 1,500–2,000+ km.
    • Speed: Subsonic.
    • Engine: Turbofan.
    • Why top-tier: Massive numbers in PLA arsenal, good precision, integrated into China's A2/AD strategy.
Of all these missiles, the brahmos is the most expensive here after zircon, granted it is supersonic and harder to intercept but the high cost and only having less than half the range of the other missiles here, we need to perfect the nirbhay missile for a long drawn out war, not to mention under ideal conditions, only the agni missiles from india can hit mainland china unlike china who can easily target delhi from tibet, so a large stock of long range low cost cruise missile might be beneficial in the long run.
 
Let me also add from ai since my old comment was timed out,
  • Tomahawk (Block V series) – United States
    • Type: Subsonic land-attack/anti-ship cruise missile (multi-platform: ship, sub, ground).
    • Range: Up to ~2,500 km (optimized variants).
    • Speed: ~Mach 0.74–0.9.
    • Engine: Turbofan (Williams F107/F415 series).
    • Why top-tier: Combat-proven in multiple wars (Gulf, Iraq, Syria, Libya), excellent accuracy (CEP ~1–10 m), real-time retargeting, stealthy low-altitude flight. Backbone of US/NATO long-range precision strikes.
  • Kalibr (3M-14/3M-54 family) – Russia
    • Type: Subsonic/supersonic land-attack/anti-ship (ship, sub, air, ground launch).
    • Range: 1,500–2,500+ km (land-attack variants).
    • Speed: Subsonic cruise (~Mach 0.8); some variants supersonic terminal sprint (~Mach 3).
    • Engine: Turbofan (or turbojet in some configs) for cruise; solid rocket booster.
    • Why top-tier: Proven in Syria/Ukraine, high versatility, hard to intercept in terminal phase for some versions.
  • AGM-158 JASSM-ER / LRASM (AGM-158C) – United States
    • Type: Stealthy air-launched subsonic cruise (JASSM-ER for land; LRASM for anti-ship).
    • Range: ~1,000 km (JASSM-ER); similar for LRASM.
    • Speed: Subsonic (~Mach 0.8–0.9).
    • Engine: Turbofan (Teledyne J402 or Williams F107-class).
    • Why top-tier: Extreme stealth/low observability, autonomous targeting, anti-ship seeker on LRASM. Highly survivable against advanced air defenses.
  • Storm Shadow / SCALP-EG – UK/France/Italy
    • Type: Air-launched subsonic stealth cruise missile (land-attack).
    • Range: 250–560+ km (export variants shorter).
    • Speed: Subsonic (~Mach 0.8–0.95).
    • Engine: Turbofan (Microturbo TRI 60 or similar).
    • Why top-tier: Stealth features, terrain-following, bunker-busting warhead. Proven in Libya, Syria, and Ukraine (via Storm Shadow transfers).
  • Kh-101 / Kh-102 – Russia
    • Type: Air-launched subsonic stealth cruise (nuclear/conventional).
    • Range: 2,500–5,000+ km (extended claims).
    • Speed: Subsonic (~Mach 0.6–0.78).
    • Engine: Turbofan.
    • Why top-tier: Very long range, low-altitude flight for evasion, used extensively in Ukraine.
  • BrahMos (extended range variants) – India/Russia
    • Type: Supersonic multi-platform cruise (anti-ship/land-attack).
    • Range: Up to ~800–900 km (newer ER versions).
    • Speed: Mach 2.8–3.0.
    • Engine: Ramjet.
    • Why top-tier: World's fastest operational supersonic cruise missile, hard to intercept due to speed, precision, and multi-role capability.
  • 3M22 Zircon (Tsirkon) – Russia
    • Type: Hypersonic cruise/anti-ship (also land targets).
    • Range: 1,000–1,500+ km.
    • Speed: Mach 8–9.
    • Engine: Scramjet (air-breathing hypersonic).
    • Why top-tier: Sustained hypersonic speed makes it nearly uninterceptable; game-changer for naval/air defense penetration.
  • CJ-10 / DF-10 family – China
    • Type: Subsonic land-attack cruise (ground/ship launch).
    • Range: 1,500–2,000+ km.
    • Speed: Subsonic.
    • Engine: Turbofan.
    • Why top-tier: Massive numbers in PLA arsenal, good precision, integrated into China's A2/AD strategy.
Of all these missiles, the brahmos is the most expensive here after zircon, granted it is supersonic and harder to intercept but the high cost and only having less than half the range of the other missiles here, we need to perfect the nirbhay missile for a long drawn out war, not to mention under ideal conditions, only the agni missiles from india can hit mainland china unlike china who can easily target delhi from tibet, so a large stock of long range low cost cruise missile might be beneficial in the long run.
Tomahawk has also evolved in terms of range, ECCM & accuracy plus RCS reduction over multiple batches. Same will happen with our LRLACM. No need to worry and compare it with a proven system like Tomahawk when our project is still not even fully operational, IMO.
 
Let me also add from ai since my old comment was timed out,
  • Tomahawk (Block V series) – United States
    • Type: Subsonic land-attack/anti-ship cruise missile (multi-platform: ship, sub, ground).
    • Range: Up to ~2,500 km (optimized variants).
    • Speed: ~Mach 0.74–0.9.
    • Engine: Turbofan (Williams F107/F415 series).
    • Why top-tier: Combat-proven in multiple wars (Gulf, Iraq, Syria, Libya), excellent accuracy (CEP ~1–10 m), real-time retargeting, stealthy low-altitude flight. Backbone of US/NATO long-range precision strikes.
  • Kalibr (3M-14/3M-54 family) – Russia
    • Type: Subsonic/supersonic land-attack/anti-ship (ship, sub, air, ground launch).
    • Range: 1,500–2,500+ km (land-attack variants).
    • Speed: Subsonic cruise (~Mach 0.8); some variants supersonic terminal sprint (~Mach 3).
    • Engine: Turbofan (or turbojet in some configs) for cruise; solid rocket booster.
    • Why top-tier: Proven in Syria/Ukraine, high versatility, hard to intercept in terminal phase for some versions.
  • AGM-158 JASSM-ER / LRASM (AGM-158C) – United States
    • Type: Stealthy air-launched subsonic cruise (JASSM-ER for land; LRASM for anti-ship).
    • Range: ~1,000 km (JASSM-ER); similar for LRASM.
    • Speed: Subsonic (~Mach 0.8–0.9).
    • Engine: Turbofan (Teledyne J402 or Williams F107-class).
    • Why top-tier: Extreme stealth/low observability, autonomous targeting, anti-ship seeker on LRASM. Highly survivable against advanced air defenses.
  • Storm Shadow / SCALP-EG – UK/France/Italy
    • Type: Air-launched subsonic stealth cruise missile (land-attack).
    • Range: 250–560+ km (export variants shorter).
    • Speed: Subsonic (~Mach 0.8–0.95).
    • Engine: Turbofan (Microturbo TRI 60 or similar).
    • Why top-tier: Stealth features, terrain-following, bunker-busting warhead. Proven in Libya, Syria, and Ukraine (via Storm Shadow transfers).
  • Kh-101 / Kh-102 – Russia
    • Type: Air-launched subsonic stealth cruise (nuclear/conventional).
    • Range: 2,500–5,000+ km (extended claims).
    • Speed: Subsonic (~Mach 0.6–0.78).
    • Engine: Turbofan.
    • Why top-tier: Very long range, low-altitude flight for evasion, used extensively in Ukraine.
  • BrahMos (extended range variants) – India/Russia
    • Type: Supersonic multi-platform cruise (anti-ship/land-attack).
    • Range: Up to ~800–900 km (newer ER versions).
    • Speed: Mach 2.8–3.0.
    • Engine: Ramjet.
    • Why top-tier: World's fastest operational supersonic cruise missile, hard to intercept due to speed, precision, and multi-role capability.
  • 3M22 Zircon (Tsirkon) – Russia
    • Type: Hypersonic cruise/anti-ship (also land targets).
    • Range: 1,000–1,500+ km.
    • Speed: Mach 8–9.
    • Engine: Scramjet (air-breathing hypersonic).
    • Why top-tier: Sustained hypersonic speed makes it nearly uninterceptable; game-changer for naval/air defense penetration.
  • CJ-10 / DF-10 family – China
    • Type: Subsonic land-attack cruise (ground/ship launch).
    • Range: 1,500–2,000+ km.
    • Speed: Subsonic.
    • Engine: Turbofan.
    • Why top-tier: Massive numbers in PLA arsenal, good precision, integrated into China's A2/AD strategy.
Of all these missiles, the brahmos is the most expensive here after zircon, granted it is supersonic and harder to intercept but the high cost and only having less than half the range of the other missiles here, we need to perfect the nirbhay missile for a long drawn out war, not to mention under ideal conditions, only the agni missiles from india can hit mainland china unlike china who can easily target delhi from tibet, so a large stock of long range low cost cruise missile might be beneficial in the long run.
Eh, quite wrong in many stats, and provide a very shallow understanding in other cases.

For example:


2500km range variant of tomahawk were nuclear variants, these are long been decommissioned.
Currently most tomahawk variants have >1600km range.
Torpedo tube launched variant have 450km+ range.


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According to Putin, Kalibr missiles have been in service with the Russian army since 2012 and have a range of 1500km.


2019 article

Russia is developing a new Kalibr-M crusie missile with a range of over 4,500 kms for its navy.

"The newest high-precision ship-based Kalibr-M cruise missile with a maximum firing range of more than 4,500 km is being developed for the Russian Navy. The creation of the rocket is at the stage of scientific research and financed by the Ministry of Defense," a source in the military-industrial complex was quoted as saying by TASS on Tuesday.

The source clarified that the development of the missile was included in the state armament program until 2027.

Presidential Statement (2015): On December 9, 2015, following a Kalibr launch from a Kilo-class submarine in the Mediterranean, President Vladimir Putin publicly confirmed that the missiles are "dual-capable."
Quote: "Both the Kalibr missiles and the Kh-101 rockets can be equipped either with conventional or with special nuclear warheads.
Potential range 2500km+



Etc.
 

The torpedo that struck and sank an Iranian warship in the Indian Ocean earlier this week was fired by the US Navy attack submarine USS Charlotte, multiple US officials told CBS News

According to the report, the Los Angeles-class attack submarine fired two MK-48 torpedoes at the Iranian warship IRIS Dena

The report quoted officials as saying that "the first torpedo missed" the target, while the second torpedo struck the vessel, sinking it.

(First torpedo missed At close range at a defenceless target)
 
Let me also add from ai since my old comment was timed out,
  • Tomahawk (Block V series) – United States
    • Type: Subsonic land-attack/anti-ship cruise missile (multi-platform: ship, sub, ground).
    • Range: Up to ~2,500 km (optimized variants).
    • Speed: ~Mach 0.74–0.9.
    • Engine: Turbofan (Williams F107/F415 series).
    • Why top-tier: Combat-proven in multiple wars (Gulf, Iraq, Syria, Libya), excellent accuracy (CEP ~1–10 m), real-time retargeting, stealthy low-altitude flight. Backbone of US/NATO long-range precision strikes.
  • Kalibr (3M-14/3M-54 family) – Russia
    • Type: Subsonic/supersonic land-attack/anti-ship (ship, sub, air, ground launch).
    • Range: 1,500–2,500+ km (land-attack variants).
    • Speed: Subsonic cruise (~Mach 0.8); some variants supersonic terminal sprint (~Mach 3).
    • Engine: Turbofan (or turbojet in some configs) for cruise; solid rocket booster.
    • Why top-tier: Proven in Syria/Ukraine, high versatility, hard to intercept in terminal phase for some versions.
  • AGM-158 JASSM-ER / LRASM (AGM-158C) – United States
    • Type: Stealthy air-launched subsonic cruise (JASSM-ER for land; LRASM for anti-ship).
    • Range: ~1,000 km (JASSM-ER); similar for LRASM.
    • Speed: Subsonic (~Mach 0.8–0.9).
    • Engine: Turbofan (Teledyne J402 or Williams F107-class).
    • Why top-tier: Extreme stealth/low observability, autonomous targeting, anti-ship seeker on LRASM. Highly survivable against advanced air defenses.
  • Storm Shadow / SCALP-EG – UK/France/Italy
    • Type: Air-launched subsonic stealth cruise missile (land-attack).
    • Range: 250–560+ km (export variants shorter).
    • Speed: Subsonic (~Mach 0.8–0.95).
    • Engine: Turbofan (Microturbo TRI 60 or similar).
    • Why top-tier: Stealth features, terrain-following, bunker-busting warhead. Proven in Libya, Syria, and Ukraine (via Storm Shadow transfers).
  • Kh-101 / Kh-102 – Russia
    • Type: Air-launched subsonic stealth cruise (nuclear/conventional).
    • Range: 2,500–5,000+ km (extended claims).
    • Speed: Subsonic (~Mach 0.6–0.78).
    • Engine: Turbofan.
    • Why top-tier: Very long range, low-altitude flight for evasion, used extensively in Ukraine.
  • BrahMos (extended range variants) – India/Russia
    • Type: Supersonic multi-platform cruise (anti-ship/land-attack).
    • Range: Up to ~800–900 km (newer ER versions).
    • Speed: Mach 2.8–3.0.
    • Engine: Ramjet.
    • Why top-tier: World's fastest operational supersonic cruise missile, hard to intercept due to speed, precision, and multi-role capability.
  • 3M22 Zircon (Tsirkon) – Russia
    • Type: Hypersonic cruise/anti-ship (also land targets).
    • Range: 1,000–1,500+ km.
    • Speed: Mach 8–9.
    • Engine: Scramjet (air-breathing hypersonic).
    • Why top-tier: Sustained hypersonic speed makes it nearly uninterceptable; game-changer for naval/air defense penetration.
  • CJ-10 / DF-10 family – China
    • Type: Subsonic land-attack cruise (ground/ship launch).
    • Range: 1,500–2,000+ km.
    • Speed: Subsonic.
    • Engine: Turbofan.
    • Why top-tier: Massive numbers in PLA arsenal, good precision, integrated into China's A2/AD strategy.
Of all these missiles, the brahmos is the most expensive here after zircon, granted it is supersonic and harder to intercept but the high cost and only having less than half the range of the other missiles here, we need to perfect the nirbhay missile for a long drawn out war, not to mention under ideal conditions, only the agni missiles from india can hit mainland china unlike china who can easily target delhi from tibet, so a large stock of long range low cost cruise missile might be beneficial in the long run.
Zircon is more like 700km based on Ukrainian measurements and cruise speed is only M5.5 , with M7.5 terminal.
can someone explain how america has such high definition video footage of these combat vehicles and what are they using to accurately find, target and shoot these military installations and vehicles and whether we have a similar capability to do so?
I'll also add that they're way ahead on optics.
can someone explain how america has such high definition video footage of these combat vehicles and what are they using to accurately find, target and shoot these military installations and vehicles and whether we have a similar capability to do so?
I'll also add that they're way ahead on optics.
 
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4 days into the Russian SMO there were planes raining down from the sky, and not due to friendly fire, and a lot more than 3. And let's not even compare body count or body count ratio. US losses are still countable on one hand, and the Iran:US ratio is several thousand to one. Whereas the Russia:Ukraine loss ratio is 2-3:1 and Russian losses were in their thousands after 4 days and fast approaching 5 figures.
 
No clue what the current stock status happens to be. However, there are reports that Iran still possesses the sizeable stock of the latest variants of its BM. Yet to find more credible sources other than some OSINT accounts on X.

Some source seem to indicate that Iran is running out rather quickly as the strike frequency drops. It could be that there is a shortage of TELs as they are a primary target.

 
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do we have anything equivalent to america's tomahawk missile? nirbhay has like a range of 800-1000km while tomahawk has like 1500-2500km, the difference is really massive. What is stopping us from making a similar system?
Russia's SS-N-27 Sizzler also has a similar range as tomahawk, also whats the purpose of these wings on both the russian and american missile? is it to increase the range? if so, why didnt the nirbay use a similar system in it?
the LRLACM is a 1500km range missile. tomahawk is 2500km cause the americans need it to be for their requirements, the vast majority of times they wont launch it from 2500kms away

We are aiming for 1000-1500 km first and will chase after 2500 km after that. Step by step.
 
Yea difference in range is massive, even more so when we compare our SLCM (500 km only!) to Tomahawk. Maturity of the turbofan engine, lower efficiency of the engine etc may cause our cruise missiles to have lower range. The wings im not too sure but I'd reckon they are for maneuvering and controlling the attitude of the missile much like the aelorons on planes. Nirbhay does have such wings albeit smaller ones.

Remember Tomahawk AFAIK has been used from 1990 almost 40 years ago and US is far more advanced in turbofan engines than us, so its range being substantially higher is perhaps expected. Same thing with Russia, infact before using Manik we were using Russian turbofan engine for Nirbhay. @randomradio @Rajput Lion @babablacksheep @marich01 Can give more insights as to why LRLACM's range is much lower.

You design weapons for a specific objective, not just meaninglessly max out the specs to the extreme. We can design LRLACM to more than 1500 km, but that's a waste of fuel and other resources when most of the capabilities we need requires below 1500 km.

So we will make a family of missiles at different ranges and incrementally save money that way.

A simple way to do this is by using a smaller battery and cheaper, inferior quality fuel. And when you need more range, you improve the quality and quantity of the fuel and increase the battery size too. The missile is built from the ground up to be upgraded in that manner, with new compact electronics designs complementing the increased need for more volume.