Wow, that is some spectacular bad faith reporting then. That said at least to my knowledge Jaguars have long been EOL by OEM and it was HAL handling the Darin-III upgrades. If that is the case, then the project management side of HAL appears to have some history of over-comitting and under-delivering.
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“There are Air Staff Quality Requirements (ASQR) laid out for the Mk1A jets that HAL had agreed to meet. However, the company is seeking some relaxation in these capabilities in order to deliver the first five jets by March,” said one of the sources. “Otherwise, the start of deliveries could slip to May with fewer concessions, or even to June or July if all the ASQR capabilities are to be met,” they added. 
The sources explained that one key operational issue was the proper functioning of the radar in conjunction with other systems, such as the electronic warfare suite.
Tejas Mk1As unlikely to come with full capabilities by March: Sources
The sources explained that one key operational issue was the proper functioning of the radar in conjunction with other systems, such as the electronic warfare suite.
Tejas Mk1As unlikely to come with full capabilities by March: Sources
Still before Rafale, interesting, I seriously thought IAF will wait till Rafale is delivered to induct Tejas“There are Air Staff Quality Requirements (ASQR) laid out for the Mk1A jets that HAL had agreed to meet. However, the company is seeking some relaxation in these capabilities in order to deliver the first five jets by March,” said one of the sources. “Otherwise, the start of deliveries could slip to May with fewer concessions, or even to June or July if all the ASQR capabilities are to be met,” they added.
The sources explained that one key operational issue was the proper functioning of the radar in conjunction with other systems, such as the electronic warfare suite.
Tejas Mk1As unlikely to come with full capabilities by March: Sources
Let's wait till CMD change in around May and Rafale deal in next 6 months, Tejas comes then whatever happens before.
And not with capabilities promised, Patriots of IAF will give consensus to it of course. Astra Mk2, whatever work order said.
Will fly MKIs for 22 years without HMDS, but you know Marut, Tejas, etc etc.
Nothing meets the requirements except of course Ourgan, jaguar, mig23/27/29...
MKI doesn't have a fully integrated Jammer-RWR-Radar combination either
Its feb now, IAF should wait till july instrad of giving relaxation to HAL.“There are Air Staff Quality Requirements (ASQR) laid out for the Mk1A jets that HAL had agreed to meet. However, the company is seeking some relaxation in these capabilities in order to deliver the first five jets by March,” said one of the sources. “Otherwise, the start of deliveries could slip to May with fewer concessions, or even to June or July if all the ASQR capabilities are to be met,” they added.
The sources explained that one key operational issue was the proper functioning of the radar in conjunction with other systems, such as the electronic warfare suite.
Tejas Mk1As unlikely to come with full capabilities by March: Sources
What makes you think it comes in July
I would bet...
See the work order, there is a good chance it comes with Astra Mk2 now, I think someone in this forum posted...
Another integration, Astra Mk1 is "outdated"
Also enginnering issues, you can't guarantee anything, issues get solved or they don't...
People underestimate even basic software issues. Even LM struggles
Either concession come or they don't... Years and years and years...
Give extension to HAL then, but don't agree to take delivery.What makes you think it comes in July
I would bet...
See the work order, there is a good chance it comes with Astra Mk2 now, I think someone in this forum posted...
Another integration, Astra Mk1 is "outdated"
Also enginnering issues, you can't guarantee anything, issues get solved or they don't...
People underestimate even basic software issues. Even LM struggles
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Either concession come or they don't... Years and years and years...
Some tweets from the Business Standard journalist whose 2 articles were posted by me before. https://x.com/AniketBS
When MK1A will be fully ready as per IAF requirements.
IAF and homegrown platforms.
In reply to ragebait's above tweet
On last minute additions:
When MK1A will be fully ready as per IAF requirements.
IAF and homegrown platforms.
In reply to ragebait's above tweet
You have comprehension issues. First you have to prove it exist in QR. Then if its in new or old.
Absolute Cinema!
Sala Tejas na hua Birbal ki kichdi hei.
And who were the big brains who still kept that F404IN6 on?
Some mahunbhav should read this poster and replace the damn F404IN6 to M88-2 already. Take the reintegration and recertification L and just do it. If not anything, it will lit a fire under the *censored* of morons in GE.
Sala Tejas na hua Birbal ki kichdi hei.
And who were the big brains who still kept that F404IN6 on?
Some mahunbhav should read this poster and replace the damn F404IN6 to M88-2 already. Take the reintegration and recertification L and just do it. If not anything, it will lit a fire under the *censored* of morons in GE.
MoD, IAF agree on some exemptions to HAL for Tejas Mk1A, but no compromise on ‘must-have’ capabilities
IAF is fine with accepting the aircraft with 'must-haves', even if some other steps remain pending, which may take at least another year, it is learnt.
New Delhi: The Indian Air Force (IAF) and Union Ministry of Defence have agreed to grant Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) certain exemptions from contractual obligations, so that the long-pending delivery of the Tejas Mk1A can start early next fiscal year, ThePrint has learnt.
Sources in the defence and security establishment said that no compromises will be made on “must-have” capabilities in the aircraft—an understanding reached between the IAF, and Defence Research and Development Organisation’s (DRDO) Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) and HAL in 2016. ADA has designed the fighter jet, and HAL is the manufacturer.
Sources further told ThePrint that under the new understanding reached, IAF will accept the aircraft if ADA and HAL complete the missile firing tests, integration of radar to the Electronic Warfare systems, and the weapons package. They said that firing trials have been completed and the certification process is underway. They described the three tasks mentioned above as “completely essential” and non-compromising.
“The IAF has already granted exemptions to HAL for faster delivery of the aircraft, 180 of which have been ordered for,” a source said. IAF is fine with accepting the aircraft without completion of other pending work, which will take at least one year more to be completed, the sources added.
HAL has argued before the defence ministry and IAF that much of the pending work is being overseen by ADA, and is not a manufacturing delay. Major capabilities incorporated are undergoing the certification process and should be completed by April.
Following this, the IAF will undertake acceptance trials, which could last a few weeks.
The original plan was for the IAF to have 20 Tejas in Initial Operational Clearance (IOC), and 20 in Final Operational Clearance (FOC), before moving to the Tejas Mk2. But a compromise was reached in 2016 by then defence minister, Late Manohar Parrikar, to have the MK1A as the interim arrangement before the Mk2 came in.
The contract was finally signed on 3 February, 2021 for 83 Tejas Mk1A. ThePrint had then reported that the biggest worry for the IAF was the delivery of aircraft on schedule.
Incidentally, HAL is yet to deliver two of the remaining order of eight Tejas trainer aircraft as well—an order placed in 2010.
According to sources, a meeting was held between senior officials of IAF, defence ministry and HAL in December last year to review the project status. HAL had provided several timelines for completion of various aspects pertaining to the aircraft. Sources added that since most of the timelines indicated April, a decision was made to hold a review meeting in April for the project.
The timelines promised by HAL for completion of various aircraft systems ranged from a few months to over a year, sources further said.
As ThePrint reported earlier, the pending work can be divided into three categories: minor, major, and not acceptable. Interestingly, earlier this month, HAL had issued a statement, confirming that “five aircraft are fully ready for delivery, incorporating major contracted capabilities in accordance with the agreed specifications”.
IAF is fine with accepting the aircraft with 'must-haves', even if some other steps remain pending, which may take at least another year, it is learnt.
New Delhi: The Indian Air Force (IAF) and Union Ministry of Defence have agreed to grant Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) certain exemptions from contractual obligations, so that the long-pending delivery of the Tejas Mk1A can start early next fiscal year, ThePrint has learnt.
Sources in the defence and security establishment said that no compromises will be made on “must-have” capabilities in the aircraft—an understanding reached between the IAF, and Defence Research and Development Organisation’s (DRDO) Aeronautical Development Agency (ADA) and HAL in 2016. ADA has designed the fighter jet, and HAL is the manufacturer.
Sources further told ThePrint that under the new understanding reached, IAF will accept the aircraft if ADA and HAL complete the missile firing tests, integration of radar to the Electronic Warfare systems, and the weapons package. They said that firing trials have been completed and the certification process is underway. They described the three tasks mentioned above as “completely essential” and non-compromising.
“The IAF has already granted exemptions to HAL for faster delivery of the aircraft, 180 of which have been ordered for,” a source said. IAF is fine with accepting the aircraft without completion of other pending work, which will take at least one year more to be completed, the sources added.
HAL has argued before the defence ministry and IAF that much of the pending work is being overseen by ADA, and is not a manufacturing delay. Major capabilities incorporated are undergoing the certification process and should be completed by April.
Following this, the IAF will undertake acceptance trials, which could last a few weeks.
The original plan was for the IAF to have 20 Tejas in Initial Operational Clearance (IOC), and 20 in Final Operational Clearance (FOC), before moving to the Tejas Mk2. But a compromise was reached in 2016 by then defence minister, Late Manohar Parrikar, to have the MK1A as the interim arrangement before the Mk2 came in.
The contract was finally signed on 3 February, 2021 for 83 Tejas Mk1A. ThePrint had then reported that the biggest worry for the IAF was the delivery of aircraft on schedule.
Incidentally, HAL is yet to deliver two of the remaining order of eight Tejas trainer aircraft as well—an order placed in 2010.
According to sources, a meeting was held between senior officials of IAF, defence ministry and HAL in December last year to review the project status. HAL had provided several timelines for completion of various aspects pertaining to the aircraft. Sources added that since most of the timelines indicated April, a decision was made to hold a review meeting in April for the project.
The timelines promised by HAL for completion of various aircraft systems ranged from a few months to over a year, sources further said.
As ThePrint reported earlier, the pending work can be divided into three categories: minor, major, and not acceptable. Interestingly, earlier this month, HAL had issued a statement, confirming that “five aircraft are fully ready for delivery, incorporating major contracted capabilities in accordance with the agreed specifications”.
But, According to our in-house conspiracy theorist, the IAF will not accept it without the removal of the current HAL chairman.
Another Tejas light combat aircraft lost in accident, pilot safe
The Indian Air Force's Tejas fighter jet fleet is under scrutiny following a recent crash during landing. This marks the third significant incident involving the aircraft, with the pilot escaping unharmed but the jet sustaining severe damage. Investigations are underway as the Air Force awaits...
We need to find out the exact reason, transparently and fix the problems.
Responsibility should be taken for the cause of failure ..
So that everyone takes the job seriously.
Series of ALH accidents, then the problem found out.. fixing the problem has been not emphaticly published..
Now ALH and LUH has become out of focus..
Imports are all creeping in.
And ALH is well established product.
If we are not doing things seriously.. Mk1A will hit bumps and Mk2 will become doubtful..
Who knows the Single Engine fighter import will make a comeback instead of Mk2
Responsibility should be taken for the cause of failure ..
So that everyone takes the job seriously.
Series of ALH accidents, then the problem found out.. fixing the problem has been not emphaticly published..
Now ALH and LUH has become out of focus..
Imports are all creeping in.
And ALH is well established product.
If we are not doing things seriously.. Mk1A will hit bumps and Mk2 will become doubtful..
Who knows the Single Engine fighter import will make a comeback instead of Mk2
No confirmation from IAF or MoD, we could have gotten a confirmation from Martin baker (Maybe)Another Tejas light combat aircraft lost in accident, pilot safe
The Indian Air Force's Tejas fighter jet fleet is under scrutiny following a recent crash during landing. This marks the third significant incident involving the aircraft, with the pilot escaping unharmed but the jet sustaining severe damage. Investigations are underway as the Air Force awaits...m.economictimes.com
Jesus Christ! Tejas are dropping like flies.Another Tejas light combat aircraft lost in accident, pilot safe
The Indian Air Force's Tejas fighter jet fleet is under scrutiny following a recent crash during landing. This marks the third significant incident involving the aircraft, with the pilot escaping unharmed but the jet sustaining severe damage. Investigations are underway as the Air Force awaits...
Will some one please cancel this entire drama filled stupidity?