Just time pass. No chance he has any information from that high level...He is like nostradamus of army veteran. Throw a lot, some will stick. Let's not treat whatever he puts as gospel truth. I remember he had posted a very cryptic nothing will happen type post prior to Op Sindoor. And then it happened.What is this —
Explosion near Red Fort: At least 9 dead, several injured in blast
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I hope even if they leave Redfort bombing as terror " incident" by " anti nationals",
Ricin plot must be seen through to its end.
Couldn't accept if it ended like that.
If Hellfire has something he will not reveal, but he does have extremly good analytical skills without complicating the subject.. He understands the delicacy, the other is Vstol.
The scale of the penetration spooked them.
A new R&AW appointment, massive raids all over the country. This is looking like a massive internal cleanup.
On the external front - all the BS all the tall claims - egg on our face.
Which is why forces should let the govt do the messaging and keep to the - ready to meet any challenge line.
Check his post on Balakote strike and our action post Pahalgam. It was as if he planned the OPs. The mode of operation matched to almost completely. It's not possible to write those without internal information.
However, given he did that, there is a chance that the other side is also keeping an eye on his account - so this could be cloak and daggers, or, this time GoI is backing out for some reason. The main problem right now is, GoI's any terror attack is act of war is going to be a huge narrative problem for India.
Then he is really Nostradamus. Never went wrong
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Any guess what will happen?
Unfortunate that deaths have occurred, very very unfortunate, no one deserves to die like this. But government may be seeing it as a success, that these ISI operatives and useful idiots are caught red handed, or otherwise what could have happened only god knows. After a long time they have some one who can directly take Pakistan's name.
The only issue is, this was expected from their side, and we are not sure if the government has already simulated it and now responding as per the simulation results during their exercise.
Last point, no matter from which vector you watch it, the final point is Pakistan is an enemy state and this kind of friction with neighbour will only create trouble again and again.
My take is, Modi does not want this to become and treated as a failure of intelligence on his government. That was a talking point last time. He wants to convey that we successfully defeated a much larger threat and this was just a misfire. This is why he is not linking it to Pakistan. If Pakistan succeeded in killing 8 in Delhi then both his government is painted as failure and he will have to go to war with Pakistan.
Another point is the trade deal with USA is almost done. Or so the Indian Babus think. A derailment of that will be a major setback for Modi and his business backers. Which is why so much delicate handling.
All that being said, Modi is acting like Manmohan.
@screambowl
He is an army veteran it is very easy to layout how typically Indian forces work for such people. I don't think information from CCS meeting would be available to some veteran. He could very well be making a very educated guess from his experience. And there are protocols, GoI wouldn't let people blurt out their plan on X of all places lmao.
There is never enough to hurt plans. Again, I don't have his credentials to get into this debate. His posts do make a lot of sense with the benefit of hindsight. How he does it - no clue.
Regarding current situation, let's wait and watch. We will have our answer in few days.
Domestic political narrative is almost fixed camp now. Opposition will do anything and go to any lowpoint to paint govt as failure. OP sindoor narrative from their side was pathetic and borderline, at the cost of India.
Those who trust modi, will never ever gonna back Congress when it comes to national security.
The swing voters are no idiots either. The first think this attack does is bring back memories of UPA era. And next thing that will come to their mind will be Modi's promise of zero tolerance. So, they will expect a response. And real response that punishes the terrorists, their network and ecosystem that backs it. So, backing out is not in favor of his Image.
The reasons are either from side of industry and the abiliy to ramp up of war production cause that is a possibility. Or , a bigger game is underway and the response might come from GOI in unexpected ways.
Wether internal cleanup, Bangladesh, West Bengal, Trade deal, Putins visit.. so many things.
And as someone rightly said. If we can predict this months ago ( testing our doctrine and red line).. then huge govt machinery too. Say what you want but for all their demerit, the babus at helm in current establishment along with political brass isn't complete idiot. Then their almost every month some module is getting busted.. so even agencies knew that it was a possibility and this GOI must have planned something. Given their past record. So, maybe that plan is in motion or haven't met the conditions yet for green light.
But as always, just speculation. Agencies will likely have a headache due to Ricin precedent now. And proper civil management needs to be practiced.
P.S. Don't bring that puppet in discourse. From 1991 to 2014. He was built on carefully planned PR on 1991 crisis. As if IMF/World Bank didn't put conditions to liberalise the economy for approving the loan. The more I read about him, the more I find it unbearable how a family made joke out of the post of PM.
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Yeah. Honestly I myself feel like nothing extraordinary will happen anytime soon. It took nearly 14 days for something to happen last time. This time the circumstances are a lot different too. Maybe something will happen in December. Let's see where this goes. Hopefully GoI don't let this become a norm. If they do, then we are in trouble.
exactly what I was going to say, wait and watch, sindoor took 2 weeks this will almost certainly take more because the surprise is lost and much much better planning is needed because Pakistan is ready and waiting. There will be countless bots spewing BS right now but js wait and look at how the gov behaves.
Srilankan team was attacked by terrorist. I think it's trauma and precaution.
and they wonder why the Indian team didnt want to play in pakistan
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One of founders of this forum @Aashish aka PARIKRAMA ( please read Citizen charter - IAF chronicles thread if you don't know him ) met Hellfire and was highly saying about him in this forum..
( Fyi I thought PARIKRAMA was working in South block or something..means Hellfire level was higher than PARIKRAMA himself )
Offcourse his assumptions on Twitter comes from his experience..
He wouldn't let out even the simplest of insider information openly.
One of founders of this forum @Aashish aka PARIKRAMA ( please read Citizen charter - IAF chronicles thread if you don't know him ) met Hellfire and was highly saying about him in this forum..
( Fyi I thought PARIKRAMA was working in South block or something..means Hellfire level was higher than PARIKRAMA himself )
Offcourse his assumptions on Twitter comes from his experience..
He wouldn't let out even the simplest of insider information openly.