Chinese Missile Systems : Discussions
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I will say though our ICBM, IRBM and general missile technology is fairly advanced, our TEL trucks look horrendous compared to the Chinese ones. Iirc our Agni 5 TEL is literally some Volvo truck pulling the canister!
Also in our republic day parade, we have showcased all of the Prithvis and Agnis, but the K4 has never been seen except for a 5 second video snippet. Imo we need to showcase K4 in a republic day parade. What information could be gleaned from simply seeing the missile?
I do not know about other things, but the parade has Europe rattled. Many are surprised with the progress the PLA has made over the years. The Chinese have done a brilliant job with streamlining and optimising production of weapon systems. The R&D will has been there for a decent amount of time. The reach/speed of certain missiles were a surprise to some analysts. It seems they were considered experimental.
The YJ series is listed in the link. You can read more about them.
www.navalnews.com
The YJ series is listed in the link. You can read more about them.
Chinese Military Parade Highlights Naval Drones And Missiles
The 2025 Chinese military parade in Beijing featured numerous new missiles and drones, underscoring an accelerating naval modernisation.
www.navalnews.com
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I suspect our defence establishment believes using commercial chassis/innocuous looking vehicles for towing ICBM trailers will aid in rapid dispersal and complicate detection via orbiting sats. No reason why we can't get a look-see at Russian TELs and take inspiration from them. The shock and awe effect of a dedicated TEL is something else.
The Americans said in an article recently they're not scared at all. Id reckon the CIA would have predicted the deployment of all of the weapons China showed 10 years back itself. Europe's intelligence capability is fragmented and unorganized, they don't have the mammoth resources CIA NSA does. So while US is unsuprised Europe is doing a Pikachu face.I do not know about other things, but the parade has Europe rattled. Many are surprised with the progress the PLA has made over the years. The Chinese have done a brilliant job with streamlining and optimising production of weapon systems. The R&D will has been there for a decent amount of time. The reach/speed of certain missiles were a surprise to some analysts. It seems they were considered experimental.
The YJ series is listed in the link. You can read more about them.
Chinese Military Parade Highlights Naval Drones And Missiles
The 2025 Chinese military parade in Beijing featured numerous new missiles and drones, underscoring an accelerating naval modernisation.
As long as using such trucks don't affect speed and mobility it should be ok. But I'm sure just by looking at it, Agni 5 TEL is far less suited for thr task than the monstrous TEL China has.
But then again Indian missiles are very small due to very advanced composite technology compared to the Chinese missiles so maybe using mere commercial trucks is fine.
The article was in The War Zone, guy who said it was USAF chief iirc. US is still way ahead on several parameters but China is indeed catching up fast. But I feel US will still retain a lead in 5th gen deployment, 6th gen bombers, nuclear subs, nuclear weapons etc.
BTW their rapid diversification of hypersonic missiles is worrying, from just DF17 and DF26 now they have like 7-8 types of hypersonic weapons. They will proliferate this to Pakistan very soon.I do not know about other things, but the parade has Europe rattled. Many are surprised with the progress the PLA has made over the years. The Chinese have done a brilliant job with streamlining and optimising production of weapon systems. The R&D will has been there for a decent amount of time. The reach/speed of certain missiles were a surprise to some analysts. It seems they were considered experimental.
The YJ series is listed in the link. You can read more about them.
Chinese Military Parade Highlights Naval Drones And Missiles
The 2025 Chinese military parade in Beijing featured numerous new missiles and drones, underscoring an accelerating naval modernisation.
If we're talking about till 2030 then yes.
But if we're talking about after 2030, then I'll reduce it to just nuclear powered subs(ssn) and total no. Of nuclear warhead.
Also.
US would quite restricted in the amount of fighters jets and other aerial assests
operational at one time in case of war against china.
Due to them operating from carriers and islands.
While china has entire mainland to operate from and deep inside mainland area, plus increasing chinese tanker fleet.
also, american aircraft carriers and island and bases are at bigger risk by chinese missiles/rocket force than vice versa.
Even if us have more stealth fighters than china, by 2030 imo, china will have produced enough stealth jets that in case of war for taiwan, Chinese will have more fighter jets in the sky(including stealth jets) than us at any given time.
It was also an american high ranking person who recently said, china is well on its way to prevent US from gaining air superiority till second island chain and establishing chinese one.
Us needs to change their doctrine to more assymterical and preventive, then their current doctrine of defeating enemies by overwhelming numerical and technological edge, because they are loosing it more and more against china every single year
Tbh I doubt China can field something comparable to B21 Raider which is already a 6th gen bomber by 2030. B21 will be entering service well before then and can pose major problems to China. US will also have a huge lead in space based assets which China will take much longer than 2030 to catch up to.
China has more than catched up by now.
Their newer icbm's are larger because they are designed to carry "heavier" payloads to much longer distance.
China doesn't need b21.
Its more of pristine project for Chinese.
Us needs it, as its fighting a war half way around the world.
Chinese will not use a b21 type bomber to counter b21.
Indeed space based edge is something than I can see US having even till 2035.
Agni 5 is even smaller than the comparable Chinese one which was DF21 iirc. Their newer ones carry double the number of MIRVs over longer range than our Agni 5, true. Hende they need more robust TEL to carry them and withstand launch forces. Perhaps Agni 5 doesn't need such large TEL though the current Volvo driven contraption looks rickety.
As for B21 China may not need it but, it's still a threat for China. I heard that B21 was specifically designed to deal with Chinese IADS. It can sneak up and drop precision payloads on Chinese targets. China will need to use space based assets perhaps to better track these things, but even there US lead is big.
From Shaurya/A5 onwards, we have been canisterizing our IRBM/ICBMs, so sooner than later we'll need to adopt a proper all-terrain TEL with CTIS, armoured cabin w/NBC protection, etc. We may not have the luxury of launching from pre-surveyed sites in a conflict with the dragon.
This goes for conventional vectors too. Once IRF is approved, we should see some concrete steps being taken in this regard.
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Hello @Ashwin Sir
Is there a thread for Chinese Military Technologies
I didn't know where to post this
Is there a thread for Chinese Military Technologies
I didn't know where to post this
The laser failed but the jammer worked impressively tho, it's neither good or bad,
Janes – China enhances A2/AD posture in Indo Pacific
China enhances A2/AD posture in Indo-Pacific with new anti-ship effectors that likely offer greater speed and precision than previous generations of similar Chinese weapons
www.janes.com
Detailed report on new Chinese Anti-ship missiles:-
- YJ-15 1200-1800 km ramjet based Mach 5
- YJ-17 HGV Mach 5-8
- YJ-19 scramjet 500km Mach 5-9
- YJ-20 1500-2000 km Mach 6-9
