We were mapping out and hitting their Air Defence Radars for next two days ie 7 th and 8 th
And there after we started bombing them and hit their airbases
Air Engagement of Operation Sindoor : Analysis
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We were mapping out and hitting their Air Defence Radars for next two days ie 7 th and 8 th
And there after we started bombing them and hit their airbases
@Harpy1
You should tell your Pakistani friends that :
What is the Purpose of Any Air Force
It is to HIT ASSETS on the ground and prevent enemy planes from hitting our own Assets
IAF succeeded in Both the tasks and objectives for which Any Air Force exists
Did PAF prevent the destruction of Pakistani Ground based Military assets
Secondly did PAF hit Any target inside India
Just dancing foolishly and claiming some Air to Air kills means nothing IF you have failed to discharge your Basic DUTIES and Responsibilities
You should tell your Pakistani friends that :
What is the Purpose of Any Air Force
It is to HIT ASSETS on the ground and prevent enemy planes from hitting our own Assets
IAF succeeded in Both the tasks and objectives for which Any Air Force exists
Did PAF prevent the destruction of Pakistani Ground based Military assets
Secondly did PAF hit Any target inside India
Just dancing foolishly and claiming some Air to Air kills means nothing IF you have failed to discharge your Basic DUTIES and Responsibilities
Russian jets are on an entirely different internal network than what we use. VVS jets are not usable in India. They always develop a NATO-compatible jet for exports, and that's not available for lease 'cause it does not exist yet.
Chakra was rebuilt to our specifications. It's not usable by the Russians either.
Evaluating the jet is good enough for us. Basically, as long as the export version of the Su-57M1 enters MRFA, and meets specs, and is evaluated by an IAF team, it's more than sufficient. Of course proven operational data is necessary to be taken seriously and the Su-57 is not there yet.
Nothing much. Our IADS is too much for them. And they do not yet have a proper response to the MKI, let alone the Rafale.
It's not stupid at all to use five J-20s to counter one Rafale (he didn't say that one Rafale could beat five J-20s), and I'll explain why. In the first case, the aircraft are on the ground, and in the second case, they are in flight. However, the Rafale is capable of generating many flight hours, which requires very efficient maintenance and a sufficient stock of spare parts at the aircraft's base. However, the Indians have purchased a ‘Performance Based Logistics’ contract from Dassault, which obliges Dassault to maintain an availability of at least 75%, with penalties if this performance is not achieved. Dassault's internal objective is to maintain an availability of 90% in order to have a safety margin in case of major problems with an aircraft.
The result is that the aircraft can fly a lot: for example, during the Finnish tender, Dassault committed to the Rafale being able to fly 1,000 hours per year on a regular basis and 350 hours per month in ‘surge’ mode. In comparison, an F-35 must go into surge mode to exceed 15 hours of flight time per month and is capped at around 20 hours when used by the Israelis in combat operations with priority global assistance for spare parts.
This is because the maintenance of the F-35 is highly complex, particularly with regard to the maintenance of the airframe's surface, which must remain stealthy. It is not known whether the complexity of the J-20's maintenance is comparable to that of the F-35, but it is certainly more complex than that of the Rafale.
So if China had F-35s, it would produce 15*12 = 180 hours per year compared to 1,000 hours for the Rafale, and it would therefore take 5.56 F-35s to counter one Rafale, and in ‘surge’ mode it would take 350/20 = 17.5 F-35s to counter one Rafale.
Well, it may be a little different with the J-20, but we have orders of magnitude that explain why the IAF commander's statement may be substantiated.
I had explained all that once. He decided I was making it up.
The Chinese need 3 jets for every one of ours without counting the Rafale due to the distance alone.
Plus your numbers are for plains. It gets even worse for China 'cause of Tibet. They lack sufficient air bases and they will be lucky to manage even half the sorties as on the plains.
He's not wrong anywhere. Jf-17 and f-16 are indeed inferior to the rafale. The j-20 and rafale are still closer. The meteor was never used in OP Sindoor.
I see the chinese guy has been banned, Also saw that innominate was banned, You guys really don't like diverse opinions
As to the Rafale being better than the F-16, it depends what block you are talking about
As to the Rafale being better than the F-16, it depends what block you are talking about
Rafale as a " platform" is better than f16.
A fighter jet is a * Platform(physical characteristics &kinematics) + avionics&sensors *.
sensors and avionics can be upgraded but platform can limit the extent of upgrade.
Well let me know when the Rafale has the sensors and avionics of the current F-16. As to the rafale being a better platform, it depends what you want a plane to do, there are a lot of platform choices out there. I can think of a few things for the F-16
The only thing in f16V has better than rafale f4.1 I would say is the viper shield internal EW being better than spectra, in some cases.
Buy it lack integrated irst and laser rangefinder unlike rafale, need to carry seprate pod.
It also lack the TV camera rafale has.
F16V also lack integrated ir maws sensors unlike rafale.
US airforce instead has payload pylons with ir maws in built in.
Air Force F-16s Are Getting Pylons With Built-In Missile Warning Sensors And Countermeasures
The bolt-on upgrade will make aging F-16s more survivable by providing better awareness of missile threats and a better ability to fend them off.
www.twz.com
It seems that our aussie member is missing the chicom. Nothing much to miss with his takes to be honest. To anyone who misses LX and his weibo pictures just head over to PDF or similar PAK forums. You'll find plenty of takes that you are looking for. You can discuss advanced chinese weaponry and 'hot takes' of chinese defence analysts. In the same vein; did you know HQ9 and HQ19 are at par with S-400? The more you know. Also, Rafale has obviously performed in a sub-par manner in all its operations. J-10/J-17 dominated the air.
There is no evidence that Britain's Daily Telegraph newspaper published a headline praising Pakistan’s Air Force (PAF) as the “king of the skies”, contrary to online posts sharing a fake image.
The image uses The Telegraph’s masthead, as if showing the front page of the newspaper.
There is no evidence that Britain's Daily Telegraph newspaper published a headline praising Pakistan’s Air Force (PAF) as the “king of the skies”, contrary to online posts sharing a fake image.
The image uses The Telegraph’s masthead, as if showing the front page of the newspaper.
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Get the f-16's RCS under sub-1sqm RCS and make it compatible with the meteor only then will we believe you.
You are wasting your time. I have gone through a bunch of this chaps posts. You'll end up arguing with him till the end of days and derail the thread. Pretty much pointless with regards to this thread about OP Sindoor air ops.
Americans continue to reduce RCS of all their legacy 4th gen jets. They have dedicated "Have Glass" program(now in 5th iteration) to reduce the RCS of F-16s. Clean F-16 with Have Glass 5 RAP, has very comparable(around 0.1m^2/-10dBsm) RCS to Rafale(0.06-0.1m2 clean frontal). American AESA radar tech is also better than French tech. The IRST 21 pod is a LWIR based sensor pod that can detect even F-22/F-35 from 150kms away.
Don't ever discount Uncle Sam's tech! It just their loyalty that is fickle.
This is an alleged video of the 2025 clash - Pakistanis are searching for a Pilot who ejected after seeing his parachute.
Pak - did not get any Indian pilot - this could be Paks chasing one of their own
PS - the Pakistani who posted this video deleted it after Indian handles picked it up.
Pak - did not get any Indian pilot - this could be Paks chasing one of their own
PS - the Pakistani who posted this video deleted it after Indian handles picked it up.
Nope much lower. 1.2m2 is average all-aspect RCS. Clean frontal is much less. Not only F-16s but even Super Hornet has got Rafale like clean frontal RCS(0.1m2). Americans are the masters of low-RCS/stealth tech and are much ahead of Europeans, Russians, Chinese and even us. That's a cold-hard fact.