No, I meant Russian GOST std databuses would be incompatible with Indian, French and Israeli origin weapons in the IAF inventory. Would software mods be enough to allow for the same? Wouldn't changing the databus hardware involve significant changes to the processors as well?
PAK-FA / Sukhoi Su-57 - Updates and Discussions
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I'm glad you asked.
Not much clued into electronics or avionics or even communication architecture. In better times I'd have recommended you pose your question to PKS. Unfortunately he's no more I understand.
You could take this to twitter & ask the BRF gang there or pose this question on the next IAH episode to S.Jha & S. Thyagarajan on DDR.
The last & least recommended alternative is you pose this question to the in house amateur experts . I'm merely an amateur not having graduated to such an exalted status.
What you'd receive are pages of wisdom if there are disagreements which you can bet there will be & if you're really lucky it could last a week with dozens of pages of infinite wisdom & no definite answers.
Hopefully you'd be able to tell wheat from chaff going by your assessment of their reputation based on past performance.
Su-57's export version will require NATO std data buses.
Well tech background here but a Mech engineer. Not much clued into electronic stuff.
As predicted my observation in the previous post struck a raw nerve in spite of me not naming or even hinting at anybody.
Of all the 3 dozen or more members who regularly post here only one reacted. It's also known in Hindi as chor ki dadhi mein tinka syndrome.
And just as predicted , you got information but not what you sought leaving you none the wiser.
Ok... So does the new AL-51F1 engine really solve S-duct intake problem ?
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Su-57 is coming but problem is CAATSA. Both India & Russia are looking to circumvent it through novel execution model. The fine details are being worked out. Don't be surprised if India announces stealth Su-30 JV deal with Russia as CAATSA won't apply on ongoing defense deals with Russia but only on new deals
With Trump warming up to Pak once again, we can only buy leverage via oil and defence deals, imo. (these two aspects were specifically mentioned during Modi's visit to DC earlier). After Howard Lutnik's recent outburst that India was "rubbing America the wrong way" by buying Russian arms, we've got to play our cards well. Ultimately, those guys are the ones advising DT on foriegn policy.Su-57 is coming but problem is CAATSA. Both India & Russia are looking to circumvent it through novel execution model. The fine details are being worked out. Don't be surprised if India announces stealth Su-30 JV deal with Russia as CAATSA won't apply on ongoing defense deals with Russia but only on new deals
If we dangle the F-35 purchase carrot, we may be able to stall the sale of F-16V B70+ AMRAAM C7 to Pak which seems to be very likely atm. Whether we ultimately buy F-35 or not would depend on the progress of Mk2 and AMCA. Try and buy ourselves some time until we decide on the best path.
As for a Su-57 JV, too early to tell.
If Pak tilts to US so much that they will get US arms how likely is it China will give J35 still?
Ideally, the Pakistanis would want to play peacemaker between the US and China and hopefully milk both for money and weapons. It's a re-run of the 1970s when Pak facilitated Nixon's visit to Beijing. Imo, China could ask PAF to firewall its J-35s from US origin jets (like they do F-16s at Jacobabad). They probably won't mind Pak getting some Vipers either as long as they don't come at the expense of J-10C. PAF reportedly has plans for 100+ of those birds.
Our agreement with the Russians on PAKFA / FGFA far precedes enactment of the CAATSA. If we truly want the Su-57M throw a bone to Trump . There are plenty of acquisitions pending from P-8I to the Apaches perhaps even additional quantities of the MH-60R.Su-57 is coming but problem is CAATSA. Both India & Russia are looking to circumvent it through novel execution model. The fine details are being worked out. Don't be surprised if India announces stealth Su-30 JV deal with Russia as CAATSA won't apply on ongoing defense deals with Russia but only on new deals
Su-57 is a lock now whether Uncle Sam likes it or not. But we would likely not like to turn America completely hostile towards us because our Tejas & AMCA MK1 programmes depend on their engines. GOI is looking at all these issues and the world will know about them hopefully within next few months.
PAF & Paxtan lack the bandwidth to network all these various beasts in their menagerie much like the problem we're facing except we've the industrial depth to do so vide Akashteer or IACCS.
The days of non networked warfare are over as we saw between 7-10th May & are seeing now in the Iran Israel war .
If PAF is still determined to get more F-16s & J-35s & J-10s on top of them good luck co ordinating their actions in a war & fire walling them in peacetime.
No AF would want to put all their eggs in one basket. F-16 enjoys mythical status in Pak and PAF can't afford to piss of China. Apparently, they have rigged their Erieye for NATO and non-NATO std comm links. It'd be a tight rope walk but nothing the Pakistanis haven't done before.
I don't see how this is technically possible without SAAB having provided their source codes to the Chinese thru the Paxtanis or vice versa. Both are impossibilities.
OTOH Chinese presence in the Paxtani war room & continuous satellite feed besides inputs from Beijing is a much more plausible scenario.