Early 2000s or around that time
If you'll go for test facilities to MoF without a project in place you aren't getting it.
what im saying is, project is already out in open,
why not specifically ask for such facility funding?
i agree our babudom is one of the worst thing that has happen to india.
we wasted last crucial decade without doing anything is this front.
kaveri was already existing and they could have ask for facility for improvement on it.
True we should've gotten the funding long before but the problem with Kaveri has been the limited commitment by the government throughout the decades because alternatives were available but the F 404's very late delivery has shown that you cannot compromise engine front and has led to much more seriousness regarding the engine front.
The best thing is that now these words are being echoed by the Def secretary and Def Minister himself which means atleast something will happen though it remains to be seen as to what steps will be taken but, seeing how the engine development is coming up regularly things look much better.
+ Work on hydraulic press and some other things has started, so there is a start for now though nothing can be guaranteed
our earlier failures led to closure or stop funding of many crucial projects,
for example jet engine, tapas, sub sonic cruise missiles(ultimately succeeded).
meanwhile china's had many jet engine development failures far more than india but they kept going, even ws 10A still not good but they are still using it in their front line fighters.
Alright too much black pilling here
There are 12 Su30s on Order and DRDO will get one of them, I won't say more.
The compressor test facility isn't something that hard to make, just buy a 20 MW turbine.
HATF can also be made, not that difficult.
Right now, I will wait for the 20k ton isothermal press. That's more important.
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Btw a question I have that there was a 100 kg/s fan tender by GTRE sometime ago, does anyone knows who was the vendor?
There are 12 Su30s on Order and DRDO will get one of them, I won't say more.
The compressor test facility isn't something that hard to make, just buy a 20 MW turbine.
HATF can also be made, not that difficult.
Right now, I will wait for the 20k ton isothermal press. That's more important.
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Btw a question I have that there was a 100 kg/s fan tender by GTRE sometime ago, does anyone knows who was the vendor?
The 2 Su 30 thing isn't related to GTRE it is for validation of missiles, and other upgrades that will happen in Super Sukhoi
+ There isn't any "blackpilling" here. It is all known for years nothing new here. As for the tender, if it is a recent tender then it is very unlikely that you'll get the vendor name.
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Japan is an ideal partner to reduce dependency on Russian and French test facilities. Japan has various wind tunnels and aero engine test facilities that we can utilize to accelerate the development cycle.
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Type approvals are with Midhani and they also made from the powder alloy, thing is China floods the market with cheaper volume hence. Our current thrust is incorporating additive mfg for these super nickel alloys, production method of powder alloy and its process , SERB often grant projects on this in recent years
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@ShiroBarks bhai any update on flying testbed trials of kde or the new afterburner from brahmos??
Yes , for the first time we see specific mention of such projects , first you need mfg of the same then test on the testbed. This bit of info came out today so I think more news will be out soon from the usual sources.
K-LCA is likely the testbed thing.
KDE is very much ahead in the manufacturing group btw.
So are we getting an lca with kaveri? Before gta6?
It would the most emotional day for each and every defence enthu in bharat
We do not know yet, and frankly there is very little available info on this,u unless someone like TMH get scoop directly from GTRE. So currently we know there is a specific K-LCA engine project, which is likely a kaveri dry version being tested on some LCA testbed. Once more information comes out we can be sure. This K-LCA bit info I saw yesterday ie this is active job actually so they are prepping for this ongoing project. There are many phases before the hardware part, preparing engg doc, drawings , QAP , material & item sourcing, inspection, test reports submission etc various work.So are we getting an lca with kaveri? Before gta6?
It would the most emotional day for each and every defence enthu in bharat
Previously some time ago, this LCA Kaveri bit was mentioned in a different tender work almost a year or so ago. In that job package related to AMCA and TEDBF , there was mention of Kaveri ICD for LCA Tejas related work.
milestone of work listed the LCA part at T0+24 months, tender was in 2023 so the timing sort of fits
if we get kaveri integrated on tejas by 2026 end, i request the owner of this forum to give us all a grand party
This kaveri is the dry version of the kaveri engine. In the job scope we can see mention of KDE and K-LCA. This means there are 2 phases. First the dry version of kaveri is manufactured. The next phase is integration of that dry kaveri engine on a LCA tejas testbed. This particular phase is critical which needs a different expertise something which HAL will provide. GTRE is the designer and maker of the kaveri engine, but they can not integrate the engine onto a testbed or a jet. That requires HAL like expertise.
Its also similar with the STFE Manik engine and ITCM, GTRE makes the Manik engine. Their workshare part is delivering a tested & QA cleared engine to ADE who is making the ITCM article. GTRE will assist in integration work , but it is ADE who would integrate the manik engine on the ITCM airframe and test it.
There are examples of such. The su30 modification for missile trials, the user hand over some aircrafts , these are then subcontracted by DRDO to HAL for modification work under project capital expenditure. DRDO themselves can not modify thee jets. HAL also has to take an insurance coverage in case of an accident (like the one overhauled Su30 crashed a few months ago while under trials) for the duration of the work. The kaveri dry engine integration with LCA will be similar I think. Actual full kaveri engine with afterburner flying on in service airframe, that day is still far away.
To add on that a Kaveri with afterburner which can be mass produced to replace the F 404 in Tejas itself is still far away but, the good thing is that work on such an engine is going on, I think.
This is not new information. Request experts to confirm the validity of the information provided.
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What information needs validity? The "F 404 class engine being in development" one?
Do you think this version of Kaveri will be ready in 10 years? If yes then it will be roughly 50 years of development on the Kaveri project
