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Chinese have once again back-stabbed us by:
1. Sending domestic PL-15 missiles in-guise of Pl-15E.
2. Giving access of BeiDou BDS system to the Pakistanis.
Why both the above are significant? Well, looks like BDS indeed has some form of AMTI, so that could enable PL-15 launches as far away from 150+ kms and giving track data to the missile for course correction. This is what has happened I fear.
So next-time around, we need to completely block out BeiDou with EW before starting our air-campaign. This short war has given us some rough idea about Chinese air-to-air capabilities that shall come handy in future. Now just don't ask me source of the above extrapolation
Boys! I hate to be "correct" once again and hate to repeat it, but "I told You So" before it was out anywhere on net
. Now IAF/Gov. sources themselves are saying this:Source: Operation Sindoor: Depth of Chinese involvement keeps India on 'hot standby'
We were at war with Dragon itself via its proxy.
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Many of these News channel get their information from social media or forum like these.... No official word on it right now but in all likely it's true.
So you're saying that they got the news from me. Well, even then they'd be correct
Most of Indian defence projects are under development and there are ample of systems which China doesn't know about. Akash Mk2, Rudram 2, LCA mk1, etc etc with feasibility to upgrade Akashteer.
So what we suspect about China's MSS using PA as a proxy to spark conflict and impact India's economy may be true, after all.@randomradio, @vstol Jockey, @_Anonymous_, @nair, @Ashwin, @Hellfire, @marich01, @Milspec, @Parthu, @Speedster1, @YoungWolf, @Asterion Moloc, @RationalGuy, @Sathya, @Hydra, @STEPHEN COHEN, @South block, @Bali78, @Lolwa, @FenicromovCW, @screambowl, @Tatvamasi
Boys! I hate to be "correct" once again and hate to repeat it, but "I told You So" before it was out anywhere on net
Source: Operation Sindoor: Depth of Chinese involvement keeps India on 'hot standby'
We were at war with Dragon itself via its proxy.
The opposition weren't just egging on Modi to go for a full-scale war because of Patriotism but because of their Lizard masters wanting to collapse Indian economy. IAF with its punitive strikes not only pummeled Pak but also its Daddy and his Italian/Indian offsprings. Game of 3D chess was played between Modi and his rivals and the former once again was two steps ahead of 'em
Actually the plan was to start a indo-pak. They were assuming we would be as incompetent as the Russians or Israelis but instead we not only decimated the Pakistanis with ease but extreme ease with limited losses to equipment. The american deep state and chinese deep state were expecting us to be badly thrashed in the war because(racial biases of us being third world and incompetent) and then use that as an argument to scuttle trade talks. But if the war continued we would have basically undone Pakistan and ended anglo-saxon presence within the eurasian continent for good. The Chinese would lose the access of the Indian Ocean and would be at mercy with us taking over Pakistan and cutting off belt and road. Gwadar would be wasted. Now interesting angle is that our performance has actually rattled American and Chinese security apparatus with the way their media has been shilling about faux Pakistani claims. Dolund screeched about the ceasefire these events took place in chronology.
Cease fire gets announced after which this happens.
Trump becomes the first US president to visit qatar. Next thing.
and finally this.
https://x.com/ShereenBhan/status/1922919560640069727?t=QJIk-FYcX7gLw-qcPonEsw&s=19
I think you'd better go to the psychiatric department of a hospital. India itself only dares to say that it has a range of 44 kilometers at an altitude of 8 kilometers.
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Boys! I hate to be "correct" once again and hate to repeat it, but "I told You So" before it was out anywhere on net
Source: Operation Sindoor: Depth of Chinese involvement keeps India on 'hot standby'
We were at war with Dragon itself via its proxy.
Then it would be SAR AMTI, not Beidou. But we need official govt input.
There is speculation on X that Turkey may transfer its old stocks of AMRAAM to Pak, with a wink and nod from Uncle Sam. We still need to bide our time and avoid a direct confrontation with the US for some time. Trump may be a prickly mercantilist who sees international relations through the prism of trade balances. But like Modi, he is also right-wing nationalist. He can rein in the US Deep State meddling in our NE and keep irritants like the now-defunct Hindenberg at bay.
I think India can still manage the fallout of these recent developments by giving Trump a 'win' or two. He's clearly angling for a Nobel Peace Price, having brokered the Abraham Accords in the ME (of course, arms sales were always on the agenda, including F-35s for the UAE). He's now offering to mediate on Kashmir.
While we shouldn't take him up on his K offer, signing an interim FTA and follow-on orders for military hardware (P-8I, MH-60R and perhaps some 2nd hand C-17) can keep Trump from tilting over completely to the OIC (via Qatar) agenda .
Frankly, I don't think we were prepared for a longer ground invasion to take back PoK or liberate Balochistan. The GoI clearly wanted a clinical 'non-military' operation to deflect any international criticism. Otherwise, the Brits (influenced by a huge Pakistani diaspora) and their cronies would have been quick to pressure India via the UN Security Council. Pak is also a non-permanent member currently.
The Chinese have alternative routes to the IO via BD, and Myanmar. Sri Lanka too cannot be counted on, given how they treated Adani after the Hindenberg allegations.
Someone like Ambani can act as a sort of ambassador to smooth over political differences and get access to US investments, semiconductors and military/dual use hardware and of course, outdo the Arabs and their minions, the Pakistanis.
Indian Armed forces are very clear in their thinking. USA may act to be against China and Turkiye but the fact is that they all are together. Kirana hills attack was a warning to USA that we will not let Pakistan use its nukes and can take out all their nuke facilities. You dont even know that we even hit a Nuke Lab of Pakistan and completely destroyed it. It was a message sent not just to Pakistan but also to USA and China that we can hit where ever we want.
I hope we remove Pakistan as a military threat completely before the end of the decade.
Trump has been totally bought in the Qatari camp. From now on U.S is basically an open adversary. Quad is irrelevant now. We will have to engage with the Russians,Europeans,Iranians, Saudis, Koreans and Japanese directly and cut off the Americans entirely. America is too big of a liability now to be trusted. Thank God we never went for any of their legacy systems and Thank God, Trump is such a blithering buffoon that he spouted his actual intentions towards India. If any thing we need to start building ICBM's targetting American mainland and start building the su-57. There's no need for American hardware anymore. Let's see if the Ge-414 deal happens because it's better to use all that money and invest in Kaveri and new 98-105 kN engines. The Ge-414 deal was 1.1 billion dollars. Just invest 1 billion dollars into the Kaveri program instead and you will get some results.
Nah, the Americans are doing their own thing in the ME that's got little to do with India. Trump's purely about business.
Regardless, we need to be vary of doing high-end defence deals(fighter jets et al) with them looking at their volatile demeanour towards us.
Let's see. This sudden change in tone is not professional. This is not how Trump behaves. It's the Qatari money speaking not him. You are trying to ignore reality.
We are unlikely to get into strategic deals with the US anytime soon. But we will buy a lot of stuff from them over the next few years.
Once the deals are signed Trump will move on. So don't worry about it. Quite a bit of these deals also seem like MoUs rather than contracts.
What is your opinion on buying the F-15EX and F-35 now though?