Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

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How are people still listening to him after his blabbering last night? According to him, Vikrant attacked Karachi. These clowns should be fined.
This info seems logical. Ignore yesterday, many authentic accounts got carried away in fog of war.

Latest tweets shows Indian counter attack. Not sharing because can be false.
 
We can only wait and see. I see this as an off ramp for both countries. The question is will the Pak establishment be happy to placate their populace with a Rafale kill. If they try to attack Indian land again, it's clear that India is ready to respond in kind.

Their missile strikes have failed so this leaves them with 2nd best choice which is to claim a superior AF. The onus is on them now.

India is still perceived as being restrained and measured despite western bias and we've got undeniable proof of terrorist kills unlike Balakot.

You are underestimating the enemy's will. Those missile attacks are just probing attacks. The real attack will be larger and would involve dozens of aircrafts and missiles.
 
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US will not sell F35 to a country that operates S400. that much is guaranteed.
Nothing is guaranteed. Everything is for sale.

Trump said it just as a talking point but no actual commitment.
Commitment only happens after money is committed. India has never committed money. Vance was here talking about sale of F-35 to India.

the only way out is self reliance.
There is nothing like "only"... All options are used.

I hope this incident lights a fire under our a$$es , increase the defence budget and to expedite the AMCA as much as possible. 2035 induction is very very late.
That is guaranteed. More funding. More everything.
 
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IF incase the Rafale was shot down, wouldn't that make new big IAF orders unlikely?

I mean wouldn't super MKIs bet better and we might aswell just get more Tejas and for technical edge get Su57/f35 in small quantities.
 
SU-57 makes a lot more sense. I will not go long about this topic in this thread, but F-35 will be a liability as far as I am concerned.
We need both. And we need the E7 sentry,Phalcon and Netra mk2/3.
F-35 will be the biggest gamechanger in the subcontinent. Us accepting american combat architecture will finally allow us to takeover the Tibetan plateau.
We have Akash-ng which can be mated to aircrafts like Aim-174b
Akash ng is nowhere near the capability of the aim-174B.
 
We need both. And we need the E7 sentry,Phalcon and Netra mk2/3.
F-35 will be the biggest gamechanger in the subcontinent. Us accepting american combat architecture will finally allow us to takeover the Tibetan plateau.

Akash ng is nowhere near the capability of the aim-174B.
What sentry is offering which phalcon cannot?
 
There are several points of view, but the situation is not yet clear: India says that all the aircraft were undamaged, Pakistan says that it shot down 5 aircraft, including 3 Rafales. As far as we are concerned, there may have been one Rafale. But the constraints of the operation meant that the Indian pilots took greater risks, as they were not allowed to attack the radars and ground-to-air missiles. No aircraft is invulnerable in a war. It depends on the aircraft, but also on the pilot and his fatigue, the tactics, the mission and the operational conditions.
It's being reported as an air to air loss. It is also its first air to air conflict

"A Chinese-made J-10C multirole fighter jet of the Pakistani Air Force, reportedly involved in a long-range engagement with an Indian Rafale using the PL-15 missile. This marks a potential first combat loss of a French-built Rafale, pending official confirmation. "

 
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F-35 sale is almost sealed. That is why you see Unkil pussyfooting.

Now that will be a double burn - Veg Pak will cry because IAF has F-35. Non Veg Pakistan will cry because they got booted out of the program because they bought S-400. Now India will use both S-400 and F-35s

We're not gonna buy F-35s or any other 5th gen. None of them are stealthy enough.

The IAF Chief in 2018 supported the development of "all-round" stealth capabilities, like the kind you get from Neuron and B-2.

That's why we have the Ghatak, and perhaps Neuron via MRFA.

ACM Bhadauria also dismissed the F-35.
ACM Bhadauria “ruled out” the possibility of importing a Fifth Generation Fighter Aircraft (FGFA) and reposed faith on the Advanced Medium Combat Aircraft (AMCA) being developed by the Defence Research and Development Organisation on which “work has already started.”

ACM AP Singh.
ACM Singh’s statement at the conclave was unequivocal: “Actually, we have not looked at it. IAF needs to analyze the aircraft fully and say 10 F-35s is good enough, and IAF has not given any thought on its purchase nor any official offer has been made to India.”

Our only goals today are LCA, MRFA, and AMCA. With Ghatak being our primary stealth component.

ADE means drones.
 
You are underestimating the enemy's will. Those missile attacks are just probing attacks. The real attack will be larger and would involve dozens of aircrafts and missiles.

They may run out of petrol before that so their planes won't be able to fly.

And then we will face the terryfying prospect of having millions of begging bowls fall down on us from the sky.
 
Akash ng is nowhere near the capability of the aim-174B.
Ofcourse, just saying we can mate these SAMs on aircraft like AIM-147b, not that akash-ng = aim-147b. But I feel akash-ng is a good design to standardize for our next gen AAMs after astra mk2 series
They may run out of petrol before that so their planes won't be able to fly.

And then we will face the terryfying prospect of having millions of begging bowls fall down on us from the sky.
gulf will give them oil, or the smuggling thru iran border option is also there
 
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IF incase the Rafale was shot down, wouldn't that make new big IAF orders unlikely?

I mean wouldn't super MKIs bet better and we might aswell just get more Tejas and for technical edge get Su57/f35 in small quantities.
No. It matters under WHAT circumstances. If it was not having any air to air missiles, it will not matter.
 
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