What I'm not understanding is how are they getting access to photos of our internal stuff before we can get them?
We need to reverse engineer and put them on our Flankers and mig-29's.
Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan
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In line with what we started with. SEAD/DEAD with Rudram ..
Hit the source of these drones with Hammer, Scalp and Brahmos!
Ensure PA cannot use the PIA jets as shield by taking out the ATC and the runway..
Yes, hence asked are we leaking to say it is genuine stuff or, chongkis got mole inside? or as already posted is it from Pakee side? If mole, then plug the gap fast.
Anyway, has anyone ran reverse search on these to see from where they popped first?
We have the advantage here. We've struck deep inside Pakistan. All they've managed to do is shoot down a Rafale... Yes, I understand this is not fully confirmed but this narrative allows Pakistan some face saving. They can claim superiority of their AF and we've crossed a red line and established a new norm. IAF, despite being understrengthed is able to strike deep within uncontested Pakistani airspace. Add to this the fact that their counter attack against our cities has been ineffective as the S400s have done their job.
We still come out as victors overall and Pakistan's status as a terror sponsoring state is cemented across the world complete with pictures of high ranking military personnel attending terrorist funerals.
In the long term, J35 sales to Pakistan will be expedited and India will have to source a 5th gen aircraft sooner rather than later. An increase in the defence budget to facilitate this would be fine as the budget has been stagnant for a few years despite the GDP growing.
F-35 sale is almost sealed. That is why you see Unkil pussyfooting.
Now that will be a double burn - Veg Pak will cry because IAF has F-35. Non Veg Pakistan will cry because they got booted out of the program because they bought S-400. Now India will use both S-400 and F-35s
India will indeed get F-35s... for better or for worse. That much is a given. About 72 F-35s.
We can only wait and see. I see this as an off ramp for both countries. The question is will the Pak establishment be happy to placate their populace with a Rafale kill. If they try to attack Indian land again, it's clear that India is ready to respond in kind.
Their missile strikes have failed so this leaves them with 2nd best choice which is to claim a superior AF. The onus is on them now.
India is still perceived as being restrained and measured despite western bias and we've got undeniable proof of terrorist kills unlike Balakot.
I Think they are accessing our phones to sift through possible evidence and then wumao 50 cent armies are posting it as propaganda. How are they getting pics of seekers and stuff. It means all chinese android phones are sending them data.
probable, but it might be as simple as simple as one our own posting it without care for opsec, anyway serving personnel in active duty should not carry phones especially smart phones
How are people still listening to him after his blabbering last night? According to him, Vikrant attacked Karachi. These clowns should be fined.
US will not sell F35 to a country that operates S400. that much is guaranteed. Trump said it just as a talking point but no actual commitment.
the only way out is self reliance. I hope this incident lights a fire under our a$$es , increase the defence budget and to expedite the AMCA as much as possible. 2035 induction is very very late.
Any action against Pakistan is well within our ability to afford. They don't have the ability to fight us on the ground. At the current pace, they can fight in the air for now, but not for long. Naturally their navy is not up to par.
We have the drop on Pakistan and China. With operations already ongoing against Pakistan, we can deal with them long before China can engage their front. Even if they start tonight, it will take them weeks to get ready, and they will have to fight with limited air strength. They currently cannot bring their superiority in the air to bear against us; not enough ground infra, and the geography works against optimal operations of fighters.
We still have three big cards to play. An expansion of air operations. At least two major rungs of naval action on the escalation ladder, one with limited objectives, another with full force (the last thing before full-scale war). And lastly, a limited war via a ground invasion (like taking PoJK along with 15-20 km of land across the IB). Post which is the time to worry. So we are not anywhere near that.
Things are moving based on what I had said before May 7th.
Army cannot do anything big without maneuvering on the field, they can only operate at the level of the 2016 surgical strike with just SF, but we have to take the first step for a major attack with either missile strikes or air strikes.
We gotta start with a "non-military" strike on terrorist camps and wait for Pak to escalate, like we did with Balakot.
If we wanna start small and allow Pak to escalate, it's possible. But the attacks have to be publicly verifiable.
I think Pakistan will be forced to retaliate until the IN makes their move, and things will stop after that as their very survival is put at risk at that point.
I think we will start the same as usual, a ground operation or an air strike against terrorist hotbeds and allow Pak to escalate things on their own.
Everything is happening as per my post on Apr 27th.
Ignorants, calm down, will ya? The wumao and mamu make more sense than you do.
We have plenty of enemies in the world. They will use any excuse they can in order to paint India as the aggressor. Even if we are not punished for it today, it will be used against us whenever they desire, or simply use our own logic against us when they do it. It will set a precedent.
There are plenty of terrorist targets all over the place, like locations in Muridke, Bhawalpur etc. We are gonna attack one/some of those and wait for the Pakistanis to escalate on their own.
When it comes to large actions, the air force will be the first to act. Then comes a small naval attack at critical infra. Then comes the army's forays into Pakistan supported by the air force, leading to a limited war. And the navy will be the last to act in a big way before the last rung of the ladder takes us to a full-fledged war.
When the navy steps in, in a big way, the intention will be the destruction of Pakistan as a state.
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My guess is after limited naval action (military targets) and a limited ground invasion, we will announce a ceasefire.
So we can keep going until the navy steps in for a full-scale war, which means up next is a proper ground invasion meant to permanently take Pakistan out. Things can go nuclear at this point, but there's no guarantee of things stopping before that.
Think about it this way. If the Pakistanis do not know when to stop, then a month from now pretty much all of them will disappear.
SU-57 makes a lot more sense. I will not go long about this topic in this thread, but F-35 will be a liability as far as I am concerned.