Operation Sindoor: India Strikes Terroist Camps Inside Pakitsan

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What I mean is that the Rafale wasn't up against a 5th gen fighter like the J-35 or J-20. This would truly tarnish Rafale's reputation if it were indeed destroyed by an entry level Chinese fighter jet like the J-10CE. And I also really don't believe it, how could a Rafale be shot down in Indian territory and only 20 km from its take-off point? Is the J-10CE really that great, is the Rafale really that bad, or is the situational awareness of the IAF just too poor?
 
I hope they attack us fast. Need to start bombing their airspaces. This non-escalatory bs needs to be trashed. Good for the Chinese though they can delay their loss of western manufacturing for some time.

They will come in tonight or tomorrow morning - if at all. The above news if “hydropower installation being hit” sure sounds like them prepping ground to hit our dams. Expect similar missile strike on our dams (likely coz of IWT abeyance) or something else. I really hope we take out Pak mil (PAF and PN) this time! No face saver should be offered this time around. They “f#cked around”, now they should “find out” big time!
 
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Upgraded M-2000Is have grey radomes while the few unupgraded ones (M-2000H) had black ones. Iirc, it was one of the H airframes that reportedly had to abort a bomb run over Balakot in 2019 due to an onboard malfunction.

The UPG program for these birds was scheduled for completion by 2022. So, this can't possibly be M2000. Imo, of course.

M2000 upgrade has been delayed, plus we got some used ones, some were flyable.

And those could be two different crash sites. This one with the nosecone.

JF-17 Block 3 has a black radome too.
 
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I hope they attack us fast. Need to start bombing their airspaces. This non-escalatory bs needs to be trashed. Good for the Chinese though they can delay their loss of western manufacturing for some time.
With 5 down,if true I don't think we will escalate.
 
What I mean is that the Rafale wasn't up against a 5th gen fighter like the J-35 or J-20. This would truly tarnish Rafale's reputation if it were indeed destroyed by an entry level Chinese fighter jet like the J-10CE. And I also really don't believe it, how could a Rafale be shot down in Indian territory and only 20 km from its take-off point? Is the J-10CE really that great, is the Rafale really that bad, or is the situational awareness of the IAF just too poor?
There is a lot that is unknown at this time. A lot of things don’t add up given the information available in the public domain. However, there is no point in speculating. Let’s wait for the official word on this - it will come out eventually.
 
With 5 down,if true I don't think we will escalate.

I don’t think that’s how it will go down- imagine a strike on our dams or military facilities. A retaliatory strike becomes mandatory in such cases. The only case where we probably won’t retaliate is if PA/PAF retaliatory strikes falls flat and they incur a lot of heavy loss/casualties inside border such that they can be proven.
 
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Found in Hoshiarpur


Looks like a piece of BVR.
 
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Found in Hoshiarpur

Law of averages. Basically they fired around 20+ pl-15's atleast.
I don’t think that’s how it will go down- imagine a strike on our dams or military facilities. A retaliatory strike becomes mandatory in such cases. The only case where we probably won’t retaliate is if PA/PAF retaliatory strikes falls flat and they incur a lot of heavy loss/casualties inside border such that they can be proven.
They will strike or they could just use the rafale crash as a pr victory and avoid it.
 
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So is it 2, 3, 5 or 50?
My money is on 2.

Its one shot down and one crashed? Weird....

2 confirmed.

3rd is unknown, could be old M2000.

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Ignore the red lines and the JF-17. The pic is grainy, but if the cockpit is behind the fuel probe, then it's an M2000. Then the hole in front is the nose that separated from the wreckage. But there's another hole below the probe, which could mean it's the JF-17. A clearer pic can confirm it.
 
I had genuinely expected that we would use meteors. Seeing that they launched missiles into our airspace while we were dodging their missiles to not escalate into a military situation was something that I did not expect will be repeated, seems like neither Modi or IAF learnt from Balakot. It seems like the PAF got desperate and launched as many BVR's as they could into our airspace while we were just playing dodge ball against them.

If having a clean image gives us better benefits, then it makes sense that we did not target PAF jets on their territory.

And we used standoff munitions too.
 
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