Neither did Cuba pose a threat to US in 1962.
After Bay of pig Fiasco, Cuba's Security Pact With Soviet was Necessary.
India–United Kingdom relations : Updates
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After Bay of pig Fiasco, Cuba's Security Pact With Soviet was Necessary.
I don't remember saying that about the entire western world, Paddy. I would have clearly specified your little island.
Don't misconstrue my words. And I do stand by what I said.
The genocidal Islamic Pakistan was the little bitch of the so called "righteous" Western Bloc in this part of the world, dipshit. And they got bitch-slapped like how all bitches would.
How you all reacted to that "bitch-slapping" are household stories in India, Paddy. I should say reading the salty reactions of the Western Block about how a "third-world" India literally tore apart their key ally in South Asia 1971 is kind of my guilty-pleasure.
And you all still expect us to toe your line- no questions asked, eh? As if we don't remember you sending CBGs to the Indian Ocean to threaten us into submission?
And if that wasn't enough we have write-ups like this, painting India as the aggressor. Despite there having been zero inimical actions from the Indian side towards your little island.
The intentions are clear, Paddy. Don't go off a tangent about democracy, freedom & other nonsense. These are merely creative excuses for the Western Bloc to justify all their excesses.
You all are only interested in maintaining your hegemonic position in the World Order.
For all the breast beating he's been indulging in out here since more than a year on that troll thread called the Ukraine - Russia Conflict filled to the brim with propaganda but which unsurprisingly has passed muster with the administration here , what he fails to notice (but to paint a situation best resembling an analogy so that a dimwit like Paddy grasps the concept ) is that Bangladesh was in Ukraine's position then with Pakistan playing the aggressor like Russia today & India certainly not emulating the west was actively involved in the war which began with a civil war rapidly degenerating into a genocide with 3 million Bangladeshi lives lost in the span of less than a year & the US & the UK sending their AC flotillas to intimidate India. It was only Russia which backed up India then in words & deed sending N submarines to tail the 7th fleet. The US lost it's nerve & the 7th fleet turned around refusing to enter the Bay of Bengal .
Quite obviously lives of little brown men don't matter . They didn't matter in 1943 during the time of the great famine of Bengal , why would they matter in 1971 ?
This is what our supposed "Allies" have to say about our rise.
India’s rampaging rise threatens to tip world’s fragile balance of power
US and its allies need a China bulwark, but Modi's ‘unbreakable’ friendship with Putin complicates an alliancewww.telegraph.co.uk
paywall free link: India’s rampaging rise threatens to tip world’s fragile balance of power
The last paragraph is particularly interesting.
For the US and Britain, India’s rise is simply too significant to ignore or resist. Engagement, with caveats, is the order of the day.
For now, the best approach to managing relations with India appears to be an adaptation of Theodore Roosevelt’s maxim about diplomacy: speak softly and carry a squadron of stealth multirole combat aircraft
I have always maintained that White Anglo-Saxon Protestant Countries- on both side of the Pond- are the biggest threat to India, with China a close second. The way the only British ahole here- @BMD - behaves in this forum is quite indicative of their collective hatred.
Pakistan is a literal nobody which has been propped up by this Anglo-Saxon alliance to keep India in check.
Australia too is in this alliance- don't forget their hostile actions targeting Indian Navy vessels. India must be wary of AUKUS plans & should expedite our very own SSN program.
Well What did you expect ?
It has been always like this from 1947.
Dr.Vikram Sarabhai,Dr Homi Babha etc you name it .Most of them passed away from this world not due to sheer fate but the skunk works of some of our so called allies.
We cant blame common Brits for it but their elite its different story.
Fact is that our Govt knows that very well.Thats why they keep an open eye on all of them .Thats why we dont take that much interest on a collision course with China.
But before that we have to self sufficient completely in everything.
Do you know who is the silent backer of Pakistan now?
Its British.
Keep that sermons with yourselves.
British was in India out of pure greed .No more no less.
Israel Palestine,India Pak both these issues are British legacy.
We dont care what happens in Palestine.
But we will definitely handles the Pakistan problem
Our priority must be the defence and energy sector and need to double down on fifth Gen program.This is what our supposed "Allies" have to say about our rise.
India’s rampaging rise threatens to tip world’s fragile balance of power
US and its allies need a China bulwark, but Modi's ‘unbreakable’ friendship with Putin complicates an alliance
paywall free link: India’s rampaging rise threatens to tip world’s fragile balance of power
The last paragraph is particularly interesting.
For the US and Britain, India’s rise is simply too significant to ignore or resist. Engagement, with caveats, is the order of the day.
For now, the best approach to managing relations with India appears to be an adaptation of Theodore Roosevelt’s maxim about diplomacy: speak softly and carry a squadron of stealth multirole combat aircraft
I have always maintained that White Anglo-Saxon Protestant Countries- on both side of the Pond- are the biggest threat to India, with China a close second. The way the only British ahole here- @BMD - behaves in this forum is quite indicative of their collective hatred.
Pakistan is a literal nobody which has been propped up by this Anglo-Saxon alliance to keep India in check.
Australia too is in this alliance- don't forget their hostile actions targeting Indian Navy vessels. India must be wary of AUKUS plans & should expedite our very own SSN program.
So was every historical empire of that period and before, including India's own Chola Empire. India had several such empires before Britain had one. Russia also had an empire and kept most of the territory it invaded under authoritarian rule right up to the present.
Indeed they are, but we had to draw the damn border somewhere, and the UN approved it. In hindsight they should have split Kashmir in two and made Bangladesh the independent state form the start, since it ended up that way anyway, but that's hindsight for you. As for Palestine, people have been fighting over that since before Britain even existed.
Except with 2.4MT nuclear tipped MRBMs. Don't recall any such weapons being placed in Ukraine.
Russia was behind the Communist takeover in the first place. Cuba stopped being democratic in 1952.
Popular Socialist Party (Cuba) - Wikipedia
Russia was behind the Afghan coup in 1973 too. Another country permanently destroyed.
As for Bay of Pigs, that was exiled Cuban nationals with limited US funding.
Cuban Democratic Revolutionary Front - Wikipedia
If Russia was okay to fund a non-democratic coup, why was the US wrong to fund a democratic counter-coup?
None of the SE Asian nations complains about a Jalian Wala Bagh, Bengal famine kind of situation due to Cholas rule.Am I wrong ?
There is simply no comparison.
Drawing damn border was the final act .It was the circumstances that created by Brits due to their petty short sighted divide and rulepolicy.
Look at that article.All we are trying to do is to ensure a stable welfare state for our citizens and then the so called beacon of Western democracy directly jump to a squadron of Stealth jets for what ?
To intimidate us? .Our youths constitute the majority of our population.They are educated and they knows who is the friend and foes.
These tactics of stealth jets will work with poor ME nations but not going to spend in India.
Yes. Try to equate documentary evidence of millennia old empires with that of more recent wrongs is a falsehood for a start. Slavery was common during the Chola period, as was Chola piracy.
HUMAN RIGHT VIOLATIONS ON WOMEN IN THE CHOLA PERIOD | rjisacjournal.com
www.rjisacjournal.com
Chola invasion of Srivijaya - Wikipedia
Chola period wasn’t golden age of Tamils. Modern obsession with their glory is misplaced
Mani Ratnam’s Ponniyin Selvan is another attempt to reclaim the medieval Chola dynasty as icons of muscular nationalism.
theprint.in
Your annual hunger/malnutrition deaths this century are equivalent to a Bengal Famine every year.
Hindrise is a Non-Profit Organization Focusing on Poverty & Education
Hindrise Foundation is doing this through working on comprehensive projects in health, education, livelihoods and disaster preparedness and response. Our goal is to stand with the poor, listening to voices unheard, and recognizing potential where others see forlornness.
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Clearly there is. Stop guilt-tripping the UK just because it was last to the party that started thousands of years before 1751.
So it was due to the Brits that the Mughals had invaded you in the first place too I suppose?
And what about all the ethnic massacres since 1947? It was Britain that made Hindus and Muslims not get along? IIRC the Indo-Pak issue arose because they didn't draw a border splitting Kashmir between India and Pakistan in the first place.No, because stealth jets have been invented and naturally allies with air forces want them. It's not like Australia is planning to invade invade India.
That's the problem, you've been told who is friend and foe rather than being allowed to decide.
This is what our supposed "Allies" have to say about our rise.
India’s rampaging rise threatens to tip world’s fragile balance of power
US and its allies need a China bulwark, but Modi's ‘unbreakable’ friendship with Putin complicates an alliance
paywall free link: India’s rampaging rise threatens to tip world’s fragile balance of power
The last paragraph is particularly interesting.
For the US and Britain, India’s rise is simply too significant to ignore or resist. Engagement, with caveats, is the order of the day.
For now, the best approach to managing relations with India appears to be an adaptation of Theodore Roosevelt’s maxim about diplomacy: speak softly and carry a squadron of stealth multirole combat aircraft
I have always maintained that White Anglo-Saxon Protestant Countries- on both side of the Pond- are the biggest threat to India, with China a close second. The way the only British ahole here- @BMD - behaves in this forum is quite indicative of their collective hatred.
Pakistan is a literal nobody which has been propped up by this Anglo-Saxon alliance to keep India in check.
Australia too is in this alliance- don't forget their hostile actions targeting Indian Navy vessels. India must be wary of AUKUS plans & should expedite our very own SSN program.
Ben has no idea , how world has changed . Below is a recent news
Iran and Saudi Arabia agree to restore ties after China-brokered talks
Iran and Saudi Arabia agree to restore ties after China-brokered talks
Embassies to reopen in move that could have wide implications for Iran nuclear deal and Yemen war
Their policy with respect to kasogi murder issue , yemen war , revocation of nuclear deal with Iran , zero sum game with respect to Russia leading the world to unexpected territory .
With respect to india One guy who took over isreali port or the port of Srilanka to prevent chinese takeover , becomes the enemy of democracy . Similarly india following western policy with respect to Iran , Myanmar only gave space to China . Now a drug racket in india's NE growing . Ben wants to wage a proxy war against one country in the region which might have some influence against chinese games . Because India dint make Russia a enemy state , a relation which goes back to soviet era . Relation which includes probably majority of defence equipment and also goes in to nuclear energy .
Right now a zero sum game going on betwn china and India because of chinese policy , geo economic , geo political circumstances . May be it wont be the same forever .
Didn't we go over all this multiple times Paddy only for the discussion to end with why certain ethnicities are essentially stupid , impervious to reason to which you touted the example of Paddyland being one with the highest PCI in the world , where I demonstrated with evidence in the firm of links referenced here that the entire prosperity of RoI hinged on it being a tax haven benefiting not more than 2-3% of the Paddys ( most of whom being indirectly benefitted functioning as menials for those billionaire expatriates or running petty businesses like the corner bakery or pubs or groceries) with the rest of the Paddys in the same cities being burdened by a higher cost of living well beyond what they could afford.Yes. Try to equate documentary evidence of millennia old empires with that of more recent wrongs is a falsehood for a start. Slavery was common during the Chola period, as was Chola piracy.
HUMAN RIGHT VIOLATIONS ON WOMEN IN THE CHOLA PERIOD | rjisacjournal.com
Chola invasion of Srivijaya - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Chola period wasn’t golden age of Tamils. Modern obsession with their glory is misplaced
Mani Ratnam’s Ponniyin Selvan is another attempt to reclaim the medieval Chola dynasty as icons of muscular nationalism.
Your annual hunger/malnutrition deaths this century are equivalent to a Bengal Famine every year.
Hindrise is a Non-Profit Organization Focusing on Poverty & Education
Hindrise Foundation is doing this through working on comprehensive projects in health, education, livelihoods and disaster preparedness and response. Our goal is to stand with the poor, listening to voices unheard, and recognizing potential where others see forlornness.
Clearly there is. Stop guilt-tripping the UK just because it was last to the party that started thousands of years before 1751.
So it was due to the Brits that the Mughals had invaded you in the first place too I suppose?
No, because stealth jets have been invented and naturally allies with air forces want them. It's not like Australia is planning to invade invade India.
That's the problem, you've been told who is friend and foe rather than being allowed to decide.
In other words the income divide is at it's most stark in Paddyland with nearly zero benefits to the Paddys which naturally brings us to the immediate topic of how did the advent of such tech companies impact the local tech sector for after all across the world be it from Japan in the mid 19th century to China in the 21st century & everyone in between , have invited both capital & technology from the West, learning from them, emulating them & eventually starting out on their own giving competition to those former partners finally buying them out in most cases or driving them out of business.
Alas! None of this was visible in Paddyland since the past 2 decades till date as can be seen in practically zero unicorrns from Paddyland by locals as opposed to the isolated ones by expatriates living in Paddyland. This in turn raises the important question of the intellectual capacities of Paddys to imbibe & process complex patterns of data which is rather unfair on them. They simply aren't wired that way. I mean just as we don't associate le francais with hard manual labor, being beasts of burden as it were, why do we associate Paddys with great feats of intelligence or even intellectual rigour. MENSA is proof of this isn't it so Paddy? I mean it may be disconcerting or even distressing to you but it is what it is.
The UK is not our ally. According to our EAM Jaishankar, "ally" is not a term used by the current government. Even calling the UK a partner would be a stretch.This is what our supposed "Allies" have to say about our rise.
India’s rampaging rise threatens to tip world’s fragile balance of power
US and its allies need a China bulwark, but Modi's ‘unbreakable’ friendship with Putin complicates an alliance
paywall free link: India’s rampaging rise threatens to tip world’s fragile balance of power
The last paragraph is particularly interesting.
For the US and Britain, India’s rise is simply too significant to ignore or resist. Engagement, with caveats, is the order of the day.
For now, the best approach to managing relations with India appears to be an adaptation of Theodore Roosevelt’s maxim about diplomacy: speak softly and carry a squadron of stealth multirole combat aircraft
I have always maintained that White Anglo-Saxon Protestant Countries- on both side of the Pond- are the biggest threat to India, with China a close second. The way the only British ahole here- @BMD - behaves in this forum is quite indicative of their collective hatred.
Pakistan is a literal nobody which has been propped up by this Anglo-Saxon alliance to keep India in check.
Australia too is in this alliance- don't forget their hostile actions targeting Indian Navy vessels. India must be wary of AUKUS plans & should expedite our very own SSN program.
We have to remember, Indophobia was a construct of the British aristocrats. They have literally been pushing this shit for the last 200 years. It's even present in Western academia ffs!
Nothing new in this article. Just a reflection of British frustration watching a former colony overcome it's past and progress. Hope the government doesn't grant these guys the trade agreement they are vying for. Turn the screws on them while they're in a fix.
All we have to do is to maintain the current momentum.UK is in overdrive to support Pakistan in Washington for past few months.
Somehow due to obvious reason that they knows it is not going to be easy like in last decades.
Embassies reopening is fairly minimal. The US Embassy in Russia is still open.Ben has no idea , how world has changed . Below is a recent news
Iran and Saudi Arabia agree to restore ties after China-brokered talks
Iran and Saudi Arabia agree to restore ties after China-brokered talks
Embassies to reopen in move that could have wide implications for Iran nuclear deal and Yemen warwww.theguardian.com
Their policy with respect to kasogi murder issue , yemen war , revocation of nuclear deal with Iran , zero sum game with respect to Russia leading the world to unexpected territory .
With respect to india One guy who took over isreali port or the port of Srilanka to prevent chinese takeover , becomes the enemy of democracy . Similarly india following western policy with respect to Iran , Myanmar only gave space to China . Now a drug racket in india's NE growing . Ben wants to wage a proxy war against one country in the region which might have some influence against chinese games . Because India dint make Russia a enemy state , a relation which goes back to soviet era . Relation which includes probably majority of defence equipment and also goes in to nuclear energy .
Right now a zero sum game going on betwn china and India because of chinese policy , geo economic , geo political circumstances . May be it wont be the same forever .
You lost the argument every time and resorted to racial slurs.
You massively overestimate the importance of Pakistan to us. Where is your evidence for even stating this?
Yeah it's a real shame isn't it, the Russians don't share any information with you on what're they planning next? After all the move to seize Kiev early on in the war came from Poland .
Now let's see. Where does major US & UK apart from European interests as represented by it's capital industries etc lie in? China. Who built up China to become the Frankenstein it has today selling the snake oil to it's people that in time with prosperity China'd democratize eventually believing it themselves .
Who turned a blind eye to Pakistan acquiring a N bomb? Where was OBL & practically the entire leadership of the AQ arrested from or eliminated in ? Where was practically every terror attack in the West traced back to? Whost rehabilitating Pakistan & pleading their case in Washington today?
Salad comes from vegetables , hence vegetables come from salad .
The AUKUS is essentially to offload US security duties onto it's local sheriff . Nothing wrong in it . It's just the equivalent of China using DPRK to control the narrative on Japan & RoK minus the offensive language & your favourite trope of it not being a democracy .
This is what our supposed "Allies" have to say about our rise.
India’s rampaging rise threatens to tip world’s fragile balance of power
US and its allies need a China bulwark, but Modi's ‘unbreakable’ friendship with Putin complicates an alliance
paywall free link: India’s rampaging rise threatens to tip world’s fragile balance of power
The last paragraph is particularly interesting.
For the US and Britain, India’s rise is simply too significant to ignore or resist. Engagement, with caveats, is the order of the day.
For now, the best approach to managing relations with India appears to be an adaptation of Theodore Roosevelt’s maxim about diplomacy: speak softly and carry a squadron of stealth multirole combat aircraft
I have always maintained that White Anglo-Saxon Protestant Countries- on both side of the Pond- are the biggest threat to India, with China a close second. The way the only British ahole here- @BMD - behaves in this forum is quite indicative of their collective hatred.
Pakistan is a literal nobody which has been propped up by this Anglo-Saxon alliance to keep India in check.
Australia too is in this alliance- don't forget their hostile actions targeting Indian Navy vessels. India must be wary of AUKUS plans & should expedite our very own SSN program.
Pakistan is the patsy they will use against India in time. I hope something is done about Pakistan while the US is distracted by China.
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I fail to understand how using western sources to everyone was in colonization mode & that atrocities committed then were par for the course as per those same sources suddenly becomes racist slurs when used to depict the general dim wittedness of certain ethnicities along with those ethnicities using religion to highlight instances of mass deprivation among sections of the population in some corner of the world to raise funds indulging in CSA & conversion by those very same sources.
Further down the same thread your posts had more emoticons in it than logic which is not denying the fact that your posts never had anything by way of logic in the first place except the quota of emoticons was disproportionate in this one .
The attack on India is going to intensify this year, as we move closer to the polling dates.
The main attack in the article concerns Modi, Muslims and Godhra. So that's going to be the main theme as usual, divide and rule.