Brahmos Supersonic Cruise Missile : News, Updates and Discussions
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There were notam & sea closure few days ago too during aero India which got postponed as the top officials were busy at the show for 3-4 days. So its normal both tests went on yesterday & today, roughly similar area. Yesterday it was so clear notam was active, planes were avoiding the entire area.
Just hoping that today's test was fully successful as this missile is needed in 1000s to saturate enemy air defence and critical military/infra sectors.
Brahmos is our silver bullet. Very effective but very costly as well.
At best it would be short duration test, to validate the same parameter set in the last failed attempt. The notam area was quite small. Imo Nirbhay was tech demo with Rus engine, based on it ITCM being developed as sort of tech demo with indigenous engine (ie a middle ground). Based on ITCM success possibly mission mode project LRLACM will proceed, which is the final version to be delivered to the military.
Nirbhay never meant to be a tech demo, it was envisioned to be a desi tomahawk with 1500 km range. The only successful test till date with full range was its second. Rest all are failed one( obviously partial succes in DRDO language ) or tested for 700-750 km range only.
Like Trishul missile program, Nirbhay too an utter failure program. You can easily call a program failure which achieved only 3 successful test out of 7 development trials conducted in past, barring today's test. Out of the three, two test were just above 650 km instead of 1500 km. Thank god, we accepted Trishul program was a failure and didn't achieve its development goals. With passing of time We indians become d!ck head that we are not dared to call a failures a failure & hence started mentioning Nirbhay as technical demonstrator.
The ADE guys are either trying to make a Cruise missile which can do alien stuff, or they are more useless than Hamas R&D guys.
Heck the Pakistanis are offering Air Launched Cruise Missiles for export now.
Do you have any official documents to prove that? Total budget of the Nirbhay program was Rs 97 cr then. None of the techs was ready then.
This is the mistake of reading fanboy fiction. Missiles should be able to use in every range. It can even be 100 km. That's also a success.
Nirbhay is a failure in many aspects. If they have gone with imported navigation and engine that may have not been the case. But with the increase in their technical maturity in subsystems they choose to go for 100% Indian. For that, the sub-sonic cruise missile program paid the price.
When a mission mode project fails then complain and cry because that was a project on the basis of matured technology. This project was definitely not.
Pakistanis define nationalism by delivering usable products to the military.
Here, our scientists define nationalism by calling it a product fully indigenous. Doesn't matter how long the military is suffering without the capability.
The only issue is that our teams are risk averse and do not want to change.
Instead of doing a single ITCM test, they should have had testfired 3-4 rounds in different trajectories. It will result in faster resolution of possible issues.
Say the fault which occured in recent test is figured out in 1 year and in 2024 we again test and fail in something? Then what ?
Anyways defence of a nation is the last place where noble values are needed. One provides what's needed by hook or by crook.
If we had some sort of efficiency meter, we would have found out quite a lot.
Do u have any documents to prove otherwise? I mean a document dated prior to 2014?
By this logic, Kaveri engine too should be a tech demonstrator.
Yeas, but not Nirbhay like missile. Its not meant to target 100 km sure.
Did Nirbhay matured for 1500 km range? Only one test for that range sofar and you think that its sufficient?
I wanna ask one more thing, did Nirbhay need only for 1500 & 650 km? Not meant for 1000 km? Why drdo didn't try for 1000 km?
Its good for defending DRDO.
So Brhamos, we have no contributions to it?
You made the claim, its easy to prove if you are correct.
Obviously, you make claims and opinions but don't have the patience or will to do due diligence.
Do you understand how logic works?
Oh it is if they want to.
They did already successfully with russian engine.
Don't vouch for the tweet but if it's true does this signify we're over the hump as far as STFE goes ?
Boast over things you have, not over things you could have.
Thing with brahmos is that it being mainly export oriented now, mind to market as we call it, they are making way too many statements. Would be good if Ng release is fast-tracked.
8 years to indigenize Zircon lol.
As far as our subsonic cruise missile project is concerned, DRDO could have just imported the Russian engine and called it a day. But "they took the path less travelled by, and that has made all the difference".
Finally we succeed
