Ukraine - Russia Conflict

Not sure if the Russians have the stomach to take Kharkiv though. The UAF will hold the citizens hostage as usual, and the RA is just a one-trick pony when it comes to taking cities, by reducing it to rubble. I feel Kharkiv can only be won through negotiations.
Lol. Maybe you haven't heard but Ukraine is a few days away from kicking out all Russian orcs from Kharkiv so why the hell would they negotiate for their own city that is under their control?

I hope India negotiates and doesn't hold Kashmir folks hostages by defending themselves if and when Pakistan takes Kashmir with help from chicoms.

Indian military better not fight back Mr. radio or it could be perceived as India using the people as hostages.
 
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Lol. Maybe you haven't heard but Ukraine is a few days away from kicking out all Russian orcs from Kharkiv so why the hell would they negotiate for their own city that is under their control?

Maybe if you read up on the Korean War, it will give you a clue.

I hope India negotiates and doesn't hold Kashmir folks hostages by defending themselves if and when Pakistan takes Kashmir with help from chicoms.

Indian military better not fight back Mr. radio or it could be perceived as India using the people as hostages.

We evacuate our civilians. We don't hide behind them.
 

I haven't been exposed to Russia side of the war for over a month now.

There is no pattern for Russia's behaviour, which is why Europe is up in arms about it, and which is also why Finland and Sweden are making knee-jerk reactions.

I am also talking about the same website, it says 26 jets show down.



They tried linking the Aryan race to every old civilisation imaginable. Even Oppenheimer believed that Atlantis existed, and apparently nuked India.



Linking Hitler's hate to Hinduism was easier for the post-war Europeans to feel good about themselves. Common sense should force you to use the word "hakenkruez", not "swastika". But sheep think like sheep in every which way possible.
He clearly went for Kyiv though. We will see if he takes all that territory.

Invasion of Georgia, annexation of South Ossetia, annexation of Transnistria, invasion and annexation of Crimea, presence of troops in the Donbass since 2014, poisoning of Yushchenko. Just to add to all the crimes pre-1990. Split Abkhazia off from Georgia in 1993.

It's one thing to remove a dictator or terror group and hold elections, it's another thing to repeatedly annex territory Hitler-style.

Nah, check out the interfax one I linked earlier, that one is out-of-date.

You're missing the point. Nazis appropriated many symbols. They don't necessarily mean you are a Nazis. A sunwheel isn't something someone would pick if they wanted to be seen that way.

PS: I watched an interesting episode of Ancient Aliens on that though. :D

That doesn't even make sense. Besides, your support of the 21st century Hitler in the Kremlin does far more damage to your image than an old symbol.
 
Do you even know to what ancient age does Indian culture go back to? In Ramayana, It is written that when Bhagwan Hanuman reached Ravan's Lanka he saw very rare multitusked Elephants. This was written some 12k years ago and now we have fossil evidence of such Elephants having existed about 14k to 12k years ago. Till 18th century, entire Europe was shitting on roads, you created toilets after meeting Indians.
The so called Vaccination was prevelent in India for over 6k years wherein the Brahmins used to rub the skin with a clothe dipped in Ganga water treated with some herbs and on that reddened skin they used to drop the fluid from an infected person which too was treated with other herbs to make it docile and that is how India used to manage pandemics. You idiots destroyed our ancient knowledge and misappropriated it. You replaced rough cloth rubbing on skin with a needle.
And yet today you use the Ganges.:poop:

WTF!? :ROFLMAO:
 
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Point de situation des opérations en Ukraine 15 mai 2022

Update on operations in Ukraine 15 May 2022


One month after the start of the "decisive" phase of the offensive for the complete conquest of the Donbass, Russian forces have conquered a pocket 15 km west and 20 km south of Izyum against four Ukrainian brigades. They seem to have stopped in this area, giving up on Barvinkove, a key point 40 km west of Sloviansk. Combined with the sterility of the attacks coming from the South and in particular from the city of Donetsk, the possibility of a large "pincer" encircling the Donetsk oblast is no longer credible.

Russian forces are now concentrating their efforts simultaneously but separately on the cities of Sloviansk and Severodonetsk. In the first case, the 2nd Guards Motorised Infantry Division in the Izyum pocket to the west of Sloviansk is pressing the 81st Air Assault Brigade with fire but not attacking. The main effort was made northeast of Sloviansk on the axis from Oleksandrivna to the Ozerne bridgehead, along the Sviati Hory nature park and the Donets River. North of the arc protecting Sloviansk, the Ukrainian 57th motorised brigade has retreated some ten kilometres in a week and it will soon be difficult to hold the town of Lyman. In the second case, Russian forces are increasing their attacks on the outskirts of Severodonetsk and Lysychansk.

The crossing of the Donets River in the area of the village of Bilohorivka ended on 13 May in a Russian disaster with the equivalent of a battle group of the 35th motorised brigade entirely destroyed by Ukrainian artillery. This episode shows how little tactical progress was made by some Russian forces who were unable to secure and organise a crossing zone. The Russians were more successful north of Popasna, in the direction of Lysychansk, which was still far away.

In summary, the Russian offensive is focusing more and more strictly on the conquest of Sloviansk and the Severdonetsk-Lysychansk pair, making do with limited attacks and many strikes along the rest of the Donbass arc and placing itself in a defensive posture in the Kharkiv and Kherson regions. The Russians are advancing very slowly, with significant losses, and when you lose a lot of men and equipment to gain little ground, the battle of manoeuvre tends to become a battle of attrition.

While the Russian support and logistics forces were less affected than during the battle of Kiev (better protection and less harassment on the rear axes), it can be estimated that the Russians lost the equivalent of one armoured-mechanised battalion (the 'shock' component of the battle groups, i.e. about 40 tanks and armoured infantry vehicles) every three days in this combat zone. That is the equivalent of one-fifth of the battle groups engaged in the area already neutralised (10 out of 48 including the Popasna area) and a potential of a few weeks of fighting at this rate and at this casualty rate, all other things being equal.

For the moment, if the Ukrainians are retreating, they are mainly exchanging ground for time gained and Russian losses, which can be estimated at twice theirs, considering the ratio of documented losses in combat vehicles (of the order of 1 to 4 in favour of the Ukrainians on the Oryx site, but undoubtedly underestimated in favour of the Ukrainians). So what can Russian forces expect in the coming month in this sector?

The dislocation of Ukrainian forces north of Sloviansk is unlikely, at best the Russians will see them withdraw to the city. The Russians may therefore be on the northern outskirts of Sloviansk by the end of the month or early June, with exhausted forces. Their prospects are more favourable for Severodonetsk where they are already on the outskirts of the city. They can hope at best to have the city surrounded by the end of the month. They will then have to fight inside the urban strongholds which, unlike Mariupol which was attacked at the beginning of the war, have been prepared for more than two months,

But things are not otherwise equal. Firstly, both adversaries can reinforce or relieve their forces in the area. The Russian forces would have about twenty battle groups in reserve in Belgorod, most of them from the withdrawal from the Kiev region. Perhaps they have been reconstituted and could therefore be deployed, in the area or elsewhere, as there is no shortage of needs. The Ukrainian forces still have some brigades, such as the 45th Air Assault Brigade in Poltava. In case of emergency, they can also transfer three or four brigades from the Kharkiv or Kherson sectors. The Ukrainians have also received and are receiving a lot of Western equipment, more than 240 tanks and 400 armoured infantry vehicles at the beginning of May, already more than they have lost in battle since the war began, and perhaps most importantly 200 pieces of artillery, 152 or 155 mm howitzers or multiple rocket launchers. At least as important in the immediate term, they are receiving fuel and ammunition. There was enough to supply the sector units but above all, in the longer term, to train new units.

But as proof of their confidence in the SKS (Sloviansk-Kramatorsk-Severodonetsk) sector's ability to resist, the Ukrainians are devoting their reserve forces to attacking elsewhere. They have made significant progress this week north of Kharkiv, where the forces currently hold only a small, 10km-wide pocket across the border from Kozacha Lopan to Vesele. The Russian forces, covered by Donetsk Republic battalions left behind, can consider themselves safe beyond a border that the Ukrainians can hardly cross, at least openly, or else they would probably provoke an official Russian declaration of war. The first effect of this advance, first to the east and then to the north of Kharkiv, by four Ukrainian brigades (one of which is territorial) is to remove the threat of Russian artillery from the city. On the contrary, it allows the main logistical axis from Belgorod to Izyum via Voltchansk to be threatened by a ground attack (Voltchansk is in Ukraine, 15 km from the nearest Ukrainian troops), by infiltration, even if the axis seems to be protected by the spetsnaz brigades and perhaps above all by precise long-range artillery (American M-777 or French Caesar).

The threat forced the Russian command to withdraw part of the forces from the Izyum pocket (and surprisingly not from Belgorod it seems) to protect Volchansk. Several Russian artillery groups have been moved to the border to carry out "fire diversions", notably on the Suzyum side.

On the other hand, the Ukrainian forces did not make any progress on the Kherson side where they had five manoeuvre brigades supported by two territorial brigades/National Guard against seven weakened Russian brigades/regiments. The balance of forces is more balanced than in the Kharkiv region, but it is there that the strategic potential in case of tactical success (threat to Crimea, recapture of the entire poorly defended southern zone) is the greatest.

If the Donbass front continues to resist, it is perhaps on this side that the Ukrainians should focus their efforts. Similarly, if the North Donbass front is blocked, it may be in the Zaporizhia-Donetsk area that the Russians have the most potential against the sparse Ukrainian forces. This might explain the reinforcement of Russian positions in the region from forces in Donetsk or Mariupol, where fighting continues.
 
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Let me ask you a question. The Nazi swastika is also a symbol in Sikhism, Buddhism and Hinduism, so why don't you guys change it because some random teenagers the other side of the world use the symbol while perpetrating attacks?
your sly attempt to defend racism is nothing different from a community who shout god is ...... and go onto commit violence, should we ban the word "god" then. Let me make it even more simpler, just bcos some one uses kitchen knife to kill ppl in one part of the world does not mean it should be banned in rest of the world.

Your subtle attempt to trivialize the event as a random teenager is nothing but dishonest attempt to sweep racism & bigotry under carpet. A country like germany used it at state level and it is still used by thousands of racists across the western world. It is not a one off event in some remote place that can be wished away.
 
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Oh but I thought India was going to give food to the needy like vstol said? :ROFLMAO:

India cannot feed Africa alone, but whatever can be provided is being taken away by others. So Modi has decided to do GTG deals instead of selling in the open market.
 
He clearly went for Kyiv though. We will see if he takes all that territory.

Invasion of Georgia, annexation of South Ossetia, annexation of Transnistria, invasion and annexation of Crimea, presence of troops in the Donbass since 2014, poisoning of Yushchenko. Just to add to all the crimes pre-1990. Split Abkhazia off from Georgia in 1993.

It's one thing to remove a dictator or terror group and hold elections, it's another thing to repeatedly annex territory Hitler-style.

Nah, check out the interfax one I linked earlier, that one is out-of-date.

You're missing the point. Nazis appropriated many symbols. They don't necessarily mean you are a Nazis. A sunwheel isn't something someone would pick if they wanted to be seen that way.

PS: I watched an interesting episode of Ancient Aliens on that though. :D

That doesn't even make sense. Besides, your support of the 21st century Hitler in the Kremlin does far more damage to your image than an old symbol.

The Russians went into Kiev with different expectations.

A lot of the "annexations" were caused by the US.

Sticking random numbers on an infographic isn't what's considered reliable. You don't down jets when jets aren't flying.

And today, neo-Nazis are appropriating Nazi symbols, but worse, cultivating their ideas.

The only ones supporting Nazis today are the West. The people in the Kremlin are communists. Nazis don't like communists.
 
Artillery units of the DShV and the Land Forces of the Armed Forces of Ukraine detected and destroyed the firing position of the Russian occupiers

 
He has a long way to go to catch up with Putin. Isolated supremacist attacks are your argument for flattening an entire country?

This is the problem, you're using a minority of thugs to justify invasion, mass genocide, ethnic cleansing and rape.
Your american way of characterizing others , either you are with us or against us is simply nonsense. No one here supports any of the countries in conflict, we have no stake in this war. We are not sending weapons and shedding crocodile tears about death & destruction.

here's the treatment for your disorder. why dont you condemn orthodox church which has whole heartedly backed putin?

 
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The Russians went into Kiev with different expectations.

A lot of the "annexations" were caused by the US.

Sticking random numbers on an infographic isn't what's considered reliable. You don't down jets when jets aren't flying.

And today, neo-Nazis are appropriating Nazi symbols, but worse, cultivating their ideas.

The only ones supporting Nazis today are the West. The people in the Kremlin are communists. Nazis don't like communists.
People like you are unbelievable, even when Russia invades a democracy you still blame the US. I suppose they made their troops commit war crimes too? Pointless argument, Russia can do no wrong in your eyes.

I've posted a lot of videos of downed jets and helis in this very thread.

Cultivating their ideas by having Jews in their ranks and a Jewish leader? It's Russian fraud. Sure there are some Neo-Nazis in Ukraine, there are some everywhere including Russia, you have some racists in India too, but they are not in positions of power. Putin is just manufacturing excuses to fulfil territorial ambitions.

I thought Russia gave up Communism. But if you want to talk Communists, they're even worse still, Stalin, Mao, Le Duan, Pol Pot, Kim Il Sung, Kim Jog Il, the worst murders of the 20th century, and the worst human rights abusers of the 21st century. The West wouldn't go near Nazism with a bargepole, even ignoring morality, it's simply too politically toxic in the woke environment.
 
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your sly attempt to defend racism is nothing different from a community who shout god is ...... and go onto commit violence, should we ban the word "god" then. Let me make it even more simpler, just bcos some one uses kitchen knife to kill ppl in one part of the world does not mean it should be banned in rest of the world.

Your subtle attempt to trivialize the event as a random teenager is nothing but dishonest attempt to sweep racism & bigotry under carpet. A country like germany used it at state level and it is still used by thousands of racists across the western world. It is not a one off event in some remote place that can be wished away.
I'm not defending racism. You're trolling. Nazis don't have Jews in their ranks or follow a Jewish leader. The symbol isn't necessarily related to Nazism in every instance.

Right, so if one person in India commits a racist act, you should be invaded? I'm not trivialising anything, but it's a deranged teenager. It's not like he was acting with the sanction of the oval office.
 
India cannot feed Africa alone, but whatever can be provided is being taken away by others. So Modi has decided to do GTG deals instead of selling in the open market.
Yeah, taken away by Russia blockading the Black Sea. It's not like NATO is the one blocking wheat coming from Ukraine. Fine, I have no problem with you feeding the hungry, start in Tigray, Russia and China are supporting a genocide there too.
 
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Your american way of characterizing others , either you are with us or against us is simply nonsense. No one here supports any of the countries in conflict, we have no stake in this war. We are not sending weapons and shedding crocodile tears about death & destruction.

here's the treatment for your disorder. why dont you condemn orthodox church which has whole heartedly backed putin?

Didn't say that, just said that your biased PoV was extremely sh*t. There is always violence in The Middle East, and it's always caused primarily by the people who live there, Europe is usually peaceful. Old man Lavrov has been on a full-out idiocy spree, he even said Hitler was a Jew. Now Israel supports Ukraine.

We are sending weapons to Ukraine because Russia invaded them, not the other way around.

The Orthodox Church has always been a Russian lap dog. It has even spied for them historically.
 
People like you are unbelievable, even when Russia invades a democracy you still blame the US. I suppose they made their troops commit war crimes too? Pointless argument, Russia can do no wrong in your eyes.

I've posted a lot of videos of downed jets and helis in this very thread.

Cultivating their ideas by having Jews in their ranks and a Jewish leader? It's Russian fraud. Sure there are some Neo-Nazis in Ukraine, there are some everywhere including Russia, you have some racists in India too, but they are not in positions of power. Putin is just manufacturing excuses to fulfil territorial ambitions.

I thought Russia gave up Communism. But if you want to talk Communists, they're even worse still, Stalin, Mao, Le Duan, Pol Pot, Kim Il Sung, Kim Jog Il, the worst murders of the 20th century, and the worst human rights abusers of the 21st century. The West wouldn't go near Nazism with a bargepole, even ignoring morality, it's simply too politically toxic in the woke environment.

grow a pair of balls , fight directly instead of fighting a proxy war. No one is going to be swayed by pathetic western propaganda. Western hypocrisy & dishonesty is sickening to the core, you think if you follow goebells trick of continuously peddling lies will make it truth, you are mistaken it will only push away ppl further.

 
Your american way of characterizing others , either you are with us or against us is simply nonsense. No one here supports any of the countries in conflict, we have no stake in this war. We are not sending weapons and shedding crocodile tears about death & destruction.

here's the treatment for your disorder. why dont you condemn orthodox church which has whole heartedly backed putin?


The West cannot even fathom the bad things they have collectively done in the last 2 decades. They are busy whitewashing their own crimes, and now they want India's support in order to whitewash a whole new crime. Not happening.
 
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