Brahmos Supersonic Cruise Missile : News, Updates and Discussions

Yeah, they are the ones who are ahead in technologies that can be exported. We are naturally ahead when it comes to strategic systems, but cannot be exported. Our focus has sadly been different.
And probably will never use our strategic systems, but soko weapons will have higher probability to witness battle than our strategic systems.
 
While true to some extent, its noteworthy that Korea has a clear strategy for self-sufficiency and autonomy, since historically, they suffered from great power competition (the Japanese invasions, their colonisation and even the division of Korea). Add to that their industrial prowess and procurement efficiency. As such, they are a latent nuclear power with all delivery vehicles for a nuclear triad. except the warheads (which their nuclear engineers estimate they can procure in 6 months).

That being said, the L-SAM clearly differs from the S-400. So maybe, they got tech transfers for the KM-SAM Cheongung, upgraded it to Chongung 2 themselves, and are now manufacturing the next level of their BMD themselves (this particular pattern is present in every single Korean weapons programme).

The SoKos actually sped up their SAM programs after NoKo went nuclear. It barely existed before that.

Anyway, the KM-SAM and L-SAM are in totally different tiers with different missile designs. AFAIK, the KM-SAM uses the 9M96 family and L-SAM uses the 48N6 family. Below both would be the Iron Dome. So foreign help in pretty much every segment.

Having said that, I am new here. So if I do get things wrong, please do go a bit lenient.

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The SoKos actually sped up their SAM programs after NoKo went nuclear
Well, they didn't have much of a need before that. And South Korea wasn't exactly a large economy before the late 1990s. Their military buildup visibly sped up in the 2000s, when their economy became large enough.

And their Iron Dome would be significantly different (and expensive) from the Israeli Iron Dome. As far as I know, their Iron Dome will be indigenous.
 
The SoKos actually sped up their SAM programs after NoKo went nuclear. It barely existed before that.

Anyway, the KM-SAM and L-SAM are in totally different tiers with different missile designs. AFAIK, the KM-SAM uses the 9M96 family and L-SAM uses the 48N6 family. Below both would be the Iron Dome. So foreign help in pretty much every segment.



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Are you telling that those were Russian missile with soko name or just russian inspired missiles?
 
It's like Brahmos. Russian missile, but lots of indigneous components inside. Although I don't think the seeker is SoKo.
I would think of all things SoKo would have have seeker tech. The semiconductor industry is already the most advanced on this planet. Their seekers if they exist would be superior to ours. I feel brahmos has been an export failure.
SoKo now already have:
1) Nirbhay class cruise missile in hyunmoo 3c with 1500KM range inducted. They are working on a 3000Km version now. While our nirbhay is still in induction and we might have some testing regiments to 10-15 systems with varying capabilities with 1500km range still not verified.
2) hyunmoo 2 Tactical ballistic missile which is based on Russian Iskander. We have nothing in that class from dated tochka's. (Shaurya is strategic system not tactical like the isknader)
3)Then they have KSS 3 capable to fire both the above two giving them tactical slbm and Cruise Missile launch capability.
4)Now a Brahmos NG supersonic equivalent. While we don't have a brahmos NG still online.
5) they already have VLS that will be able to launch all these three systems from their ships and subs..
It's honestly sad. And you can see how fast an advanced economy can cover up with us in such a short time..
 
What's the relation? Brahmos wasn't even cleared for export until only a few months ago.
Because they will now export to other countries of a tech we already possessed. And not only that it will most likely be superior to ours..Tech like Brahmos give us huge political leverage like the Chinese did with their ballistic missile and cruise missile tech exporting.
We should atleast export a down graded version of the agni 1 or prahaar missile in SEA..
 
Because they will now export to other countries of a tech we already possessed. And not only that it will most likely be superior to ours..Tech like Brahmos give us huge political leverage like the Chinese did with their ballistic missile and cruise missile tech exporting.
We should atleast export a down graded version of the agni 1 or prahaar missile in SEA..

So you're saying the Russians will allow Korea to export it?
 
If the missile doesn't contain Russian hardware, the Russians will have no say. The KM-SAM Cheongung, developed similarly with Russian tech transfer, was exported to the UAE.

It depends on the type of contract they signed and the type of system. They are unlikely to allow export for something they already have an agreement with another country for the same. The KM-SAM is mostly Korean, in this case the Russians won't really have a problem with allowing the export of their share of the missile itself.
 
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If Korea's military procurement history is anything to go by, so is the supersonic missile.

It's not the same situation though, it's about the leverage you have over the technologies. Korea has the capability to replace the motor on the SAM, but the question is whether they have the same for the ramjet. Airframes are not protected by IPR laws, which is why you can see so many look-alike copies everywhere, including the Chinese Flanker. Then there's obviously the agreement itself, like we can't export the Brahmos-2, as long as the motor comes from Russia, even if the rest is Indian. So the real question is if the Russians will allow the export of the missile with a Russian motor. Of course, the game's different if even the motor is replaced with a Korean one, then it would be a Korean missileand they would have a geniune competitor to the Brahmos.

Let's not forget that Russia has a stake in BAL, which allows profit sharing, plus access to countries they themselves do not have, but if the Korean missile is just a licensed engine, then they won't get export clearance due to the obvious reason that the Russians won't be able to earn profits on their own tech.
 

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From 2011:

The Republic of Korea is developing a supersonic cruise missile to defend the country against threats from the navies of neighbouring countries.

The government source said, “Think tanks like the Agency for Defense Development have been developing a supersonic anti-ship cruise missile for some years now.”

“They’re expected to complete development in three to four years at the earliest,” The Chosunilbo quotes the source as saying.

Based on Russia’s Yakhont missile, the missile will have a range of 250km-300km and can achieve speeds of up to Mach 2.5.

The cruise missile can be used to attack aircraft carriers, Aegis ships and other modern submarines.
 
Korea has the capability to replace the motor on the SAM, but the question is whether they have the same for the ramjet.
Yes, that is ambiguous as of now.

Also, the Koreans apparently have a separate air-launched 400mm supersonic anti-ship missile in development for the KF-21.
 
Because they will now export to other countries of a tech we already possessed. And not only that it will most likely be superior to ours..Tech like Brahmos give us huge political leverage like the Chinese did with their ballistic missile and cruise missile tech exporting.
We should atleast export a down graded version of the agni 1 or prahaar missile in SEA..
We are not a rogue nation like north korea to export Agni BM to foreign countries,by mocking MTCR.
Prahar can be exported since it is a sub 300km missile, Pragathi name first coined for the export variant of prahar missile, don't know what happened to that project.
 
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