Pradhanmantri Pakoda Rozgar Yojna

[BlackOpsIndia]

Mitron I proudly present you Pradhanamntri Pakoda Rozgar Yojna

Eligibility:
1) Any graduate, post graduate preparing for UPSC, cuz I just reduced your vacancies to almost half. From 1300 to 750 as this poor bhikhari nation of 125 crore apparently can't afford 1200 Group A officers.


2) Any graduate preparing for Bank job, I just reduced your vacancies to 1/3 from 21000+ to 8000+ within in three years. Your graduate degree issued by honorable degrefied Irani ji will serve as a good plate to serve those pakodas.


3) Any other graduate looking for a decent group B job, cuz there is literally no major job which I have not reduced by significant proportion. You are the prime audience for this yojna.


Scheme Benefits:
What is not provided:
Under Pradhanamntri Pakoda Rozgar Yojna (PMPRY) you won't be provided any subsidy for Kadhai to fry Pakoda, no subsidy on cooking oil, you can't use domestic LPG cylinder for commercial purposes, bring your own thela and besan. Though onion price can sometime take dig at your profit but don't worry you will be helping farmers of country.

What is provided:
You can ask for Mudra loan from nearby bank, if your papers are ok and aadhaar is linked all you need to do is skim 10-20% of loan amount to bank manager to get a loan approved. The interest rates can vary over time but don't worry they won't break your back, policeman commission and his lathi for parking your thela will.


Sarcasm aside I have few questions to PM I supported everywhere I could have.

1) At 200 Rs per day as our dear PM said, if he work 30 days a month it will amount to 6,000 Rs per month. The minimum wage his own govt declared is Rs 18,000 per month. I won't ask how will a family survive in 6,000 Rs per month but how moral is it to quote 6,000 per month as employment amount which is way below the legal minimum wage! Shouldn't a prime minister be little more sensitive to unemployed youth which struggles financially, morally and socially? He just didn't stop there, after this example he went on further saying that he is on right track! So either he is not aware of these dwindling numbers or youth can live or die he don't really care. This much insensitivity is appalling and can be only seen in Rahul baba, Akhilesh Yadav, Tejasvi Yadav and other crown princess.

2) There is increasing number of contract based vacancies to avoid minimum wage rules and a recent circular asked every department to nullify every vacant post and remove it from system instead of filling it and call whatever strength they have today as 100% strength, no vacant posts, there is also a proposal to hire people from private sector who will serve at pleasure of PM (99% political party workers as proved in female board of directors case, Shazia Ilmi and others). Is this scarcity intentionally created to prepare ground for private entry? Where are we actually headed? If this is the level of apathy when 2019 elections are around the corner what will be result after he gets another term? Are we going to give whole country on contract at 6,000 10,000/month while mega businessman appoint own people even in bureaucracy after buying political parties? Will there be any merit based system left? Will it not damage the system beyond repair?

Special Request: Please stay clear of naked sycophancy and blind support, contribute if you can.

 

[ranadd]

The pakoda debate just destroyed any respect I had for Indians. Gullible donkeys buying the drivel these fools are feeding them.

 

[Shajida Khan]

1) Any graduate, post graduate preparing for UPSC, cuz I just reduced your vacancies to almost half. From 1300 to 750 as this poor bhikhari nation of 125 crore apparently can't afford 1200 Group A officers.

2) Any graduate preparing for Bank job, I just reduced your vacancies to 1/3 from 21000+ to 8000+ within in three years. Your graduate degree issued by honorable degrefied Irani ji will serve as a good plate to serve those pakodas.

3) Any other graduate looking for a decent group B job, cuz there is literally no major job which I have not reduced by significant proportion. You are the prime audience for this yojna.

This is fun. I have just one basic question. Is getting a government job an entitlement? Especially these useless bureaucrat types. Secondly, pencil pushing jobs in banks -- are they some kind of birth right?

When someone decides to do some degree course, do they think what they will do once their degree is done? Or more importantly, what kind of value can they produce? A lot of folks with graduate and post-grad degrees and finally phds in disciplines with no economic future are doing this much: delaying their entry in job market. Thats all. How about take up some skills that really matter and in demand? Skills like AI, statistical skills etc.

And finally what is fundamentally wrong with selling Pakodas? Is doing a degree puts you somehow above those who sell Pakodas? If that degree was worth its salt, it would have enabled you to figure out how to earn 10 Lakhs an year by just selling Pakodas. BTW, a certain Haldiram became a bilionaire by selling Pakodas practically. If you just sell Pakodas then you will not earn more than 8-10K per month. Put some cigs and tea and Gutkha and you will be earning 25-30 K a month. Buy a vehicle to make a makeshift shop and you will be able to quickly move near SEZs and sell 50K worth of goods a month. I don't see why is this a problem and whats with this entitlement for pencil and paper pushing jobs.

 

[smestarz]

The attitude in India as you rightly pointed out is FLAWED
We have become as most world knows a SERVICE NATION, So most countries put up BPOs in India, cheap and reasonable,

Where the thinking is flawed is when PM announces 2 crore jobs would be created, most think those will be 2 crore govt jobs, Railways, Air india, etc etc. Surely the PM can create 2 crore jobs, just to open recruitment for the army, train them for a month and then post them in army and attack Pakistan. Two birds with one stone.

People have stopped thinking outside the box, most people look down on Pakoda or Wada sellers, actually they are doing two things,
a) Being self employed and doing their own business and contributing to the economy
b) Catering to the hungry at reasonable cost (those who can afford expensive restaurants do so)

There are businesses that develop from small business, like you talked of Haldiram, even AMUL was first milk collection point and paseurisation before it became a giant, LIJJAT papad was womens co-operative, APNA Bazar one of the first supermarket was quasi govt venture which involved middle class worker co-operative to buy together and hence get lower price due to bulk buying.

So how well you are committed to the goal can become how well you can progress, Just an example., PavBhaji seller in our area has post 2 BHK apartment and his only income is selling pav bhaji.

Selling Pakoda is small business and importantly you have to learn (at work) to develop yourself and diversify into other products and segments and also positioning of the "shop" becomes important, IT is a basic business where the investment is not much but opportunities and earnings are more and of course knowledge based diversification into other small business. Its not that once a pakodawala is always a pakodawala/
But it does not mean that if you dont have knack or interest to make and sell pakodas and still you should do it, better not, you will make horrible pakodas and blame everyone else for your misfortune. Take business as business and you shall flourish. Also if you have a business and you do not flourish, then either the situation is not ripe for your business or you simply are not an able businessman

This is fun. I have just one basic question. Is getting a government job an entitlement? Especially these useless bureaucrat types. Secondly, pencil pushing jobs in banks -- are they some kind of birth right?

When someone decides to do some degree course, do they think what they will do once their degree is done? Or more importantly, what kind of value can they produce? A lot of folks with graduate and post-grad degrees and finally phds in disciplines with no economic future are doing this much: delaying their entry in job market. Thats all. How about take up some skills that really matter and in demand? Skills like AI, statistical skills etc.

And finally what is fundamentally wrong with selling Pakodas? Is doing a degree puts you somehow above those who sell Pakodas? If that degree was worth its salt, it would have enabled you to figure out how to earn 10 Lakhs an year by just selling Pakodas. BTW, a certain Haldiram became a bilionaire by selling Pakodas practically. If you just sell Pakodas then you will not earn more than 8-10K per month. Put some cigs and tea and Gutkha and you will be earning 25-30 K a month. Buy a vehicle to make a makeshift shop and you will be able to quickly move near SEZs and sell 50K worth of goods a month. I don't see why is this a problem and whats with this entitlement for pencil and paper pushing jobs.

 

[bonobashi]

This is fun. I have just one basic question. Is getting a government job an entitlement? Especially these useless bureaucrat types. Secondly, pencil pushing jobs in banks -- are they some kind of birth right?

When someone decides to do some degree course, do they think what they will do once their degree is done? Or more importantly, what kind of value can they produce? A lot of folks with graduate and post-grad degrees and finally phds in disciplines with no economic future are doing this much: delaying their entry in job market. Thats all. How about take up some skills that really matter and in demand? Skills like AI, statistical skills etc.

And finally what is fundamentally wrong with selling Pakodas? Is doing a degree puts you somehow above those who sell Pakodas? If that degree was worth its salt, it would have enabled you to figure out how to earn 10 Lakhs an year by just selling Pakodas. BTW, a certain Haldiram became a bilionaire by selling Pakodas practically. If you just sell Pakodas then you will not earn more than 8-10K per month. Put some cigs and tea and Gutkha and you will be earning 25-30 K a month. Buy a vehicle to make a makeshift shop and you will be able to quickly move near SEZs and sell 50K worth of goods a month. I don't see why is this a problem and whats with this entitlement for pencil and paper pushing jobs.

No.
No.
No.
No.
How about it?


For the last one year, I have been obsessed with the matter, and would gladly explain on a new thread.

Nothing wrong with pakoda selling. But that will not address the problem of 13 million coming into the job market. It is one of a million threads needed. There's everything wrong with a PM wriggling out of his responsibilities with this home-spun wisdom. We deserve better.

PS: You are a cheat. That was seven questions, not "...just one basic question."

 

[Shajida Khan]

Nothing wrong with pakoda selling. But that will not address the problem of 13 million coming into the job market. It is one of a million threads needed. There's everything wrong with a PM wriggling out of his responsibilities with this home-spun wisdom. We deserve better.

The government has one responsibility: to strike a balance between interest of common people and that of businesses and then getting out of the way. Beyond this, its all empty promises.

Did PM himself begot those 13 million people?

Did he forced them to study economically-worthless courses like Phd in Sociology without any market-useful skills?

Upshot is when and how will personal responsibility factor into this equation?

The current administration has done few things right. They worked towards making business easier to do. They simplified taxation, though it is still to be implemented in a wide scale fashion.

Now here is what I would have expected these 13 million 'debutante' in 'job' markets. If they had an ounce of capability some of them should have found how to get a cheaper version of this

https://www.amazon.in/Anova-Sous-Immersion-Circulator-Black/dp/B00UET2UI2

and would have catered some quality Sous Vide cooking in India. May be some of them already do it. You see, the way you progress is by offering a value. If you offer the right value, people will pay for it. The innovation is in building the proverbial better mouse trap. I am yet to see most of these 13 millions to do this. They just harp and cry for PM to do something. It is not PM's responsibility it is their own responsibility. After all you cann't sit on your posterior and want all the goodies to come to you.

 

[bonobashi]

The government has one responsibility: to strike a balance between interest of common people and that of businesses and then getting out of the way. Beyond this, its all empty promises.

Did PM himself begot those 13 million people?

Did he forced them to study economically-worthless courses like Phd in Sociology without any market-useful skills?

Upshot is when and how will personal responsibility factor into this equation?

The current administration has done few things right. They worked towards making business easier to do. They simplified taxation, though it is still to be implemented in a wide scale fashion.

Now here is what I would have expected these 13 million 'debutante' in 'job' markets. If they had an ounce of capability some of them should have found how to get a cheaper version of this

https://www.amazon.in/Anova-Sous-Immersion-Circulator-Black/dp/B00UET2UI2

and would have catered some quality Sous Vide cooking in India. May be some of them already do it. You see, the way you progress is by offering a value. If you offer the right value, people will pay for it. The innovation is in building the proverbial better mouse trap. I am yet to see most of these 13 millions to do this. They just harp and cry for PM to do something. It is not PM's responsibility it is their own responsibility. After all you cann't sit on your posterior and want all the goodies to come to you.

Ooooh.

Biting.

 

[BlackOpsIndia]

This is fun. I have just one basic question. Is getting a government job an entitlement? Especially these useless bureaucrat types. Secondly, pencil pushing jobs in banks -- are they some kind of birth right?

When someone decides to do some degree course, do they think what they will do once their degree is done? Or more importantly, what kind of value can they produce? A lot of folks with graduate and post-grad degrees and finally phds in disciplines with no economic future are doing this much: delaying their entry in job market. Thats all. How about take up some skills that really matter and in demand? Skills like AI, statistical skills etc.

And finally what is fundamentally wrong with selling Pakodas? Is doing a degree puts you somehow above those who sell Pakodas? If that degree was worth its salt, it would have enabled you to figure out how to earn 10 Lakhs an year by just selling Pakodas. BTW, a certain Haldiram became a bilionaire by selling Pakodas practically. If you just sell Pakodas then you will not earn more than 8-10K per month. Put some cigs and tea and Gutkha and you will be earning 25-30 K a month. Buy a vehicle to make a makeshift shop and you will be able to quickly move near SEZs and sell 50K worth of goods a month. I don't see why is this a problem and whats with this entitlement for pencil and paper pushing jobs.

Interesting, Bank jobs and bureaucratic jobs are degraded as pencil pushing while maintaining dignity of Pakada selling in same breath!


As far as entitlement goes YES we are entitled to dignified and meaningful life and the state resources are to be used equally for the welfare of people. All these things are covered and guaranteed to the citizens of India by a piece of paper called constitution of India I hope you heard of it.

Now comes the part of skills, I don't know if you live in India or not but we churn more engineers than total newborns in many countries. So unless you consider 4 year technical course as unskilled job and pakda selling to be very skilled job I think you are not on very strong footing.

AI and statistics are given as example of specialization for getting job which is again not provided with facts that how many AI jobs were created by industry just to hide those insignificant numbers compared to millions of skilled engineers entering the work force. I happened to have worked a bit on AI so I know the number of jobs you are talking about.


Example of haldiram or bikanerwala is given which is again wrong, they didn't reach there but selling pakoda, infact I can quote you so many startup that failed miserably trying to sell food, so unless you think there is space for thousands of haldiram in market I again think that example was diversion tactic.


And finally by clever deflecting the topic from living wages and prime minister's indifference to reducing job the topic is cleverly diverted to dignity of labour. If you read again I nowhere said selling pakoda is wrong, infact I told you problems faced by them. Also that unrealistic and lala land you are living in come down to earth, I can show you thousands of examples in a small city where Gutkha sellers with tea and pakoda and cigarettes and what not are still in that same shop from past 40-50 years. NO THEY DON'T EARN 25k-30k.

Now answer on topic when economy is booming and more importantly world economy is growing at a fantastic pace why are those jobs reducing? And please before you claim anything from your high horse like jobs in AI or 25k for pakoda sellers please provide some back up cuz those numbers are laughable and kind of insulting to same pakoda sellers you are trying to dignify.

 

[bonobashi]

Interesting, Bank jobs and bureaucratic jobs are degraded as pencil pushing while maintaining dignity of Pakada selling in same breath!


As far as entitlement goes YES we are entitled to dignified and meaningful life and the state resources are to be used equally for the welfare of people. All these things are covered and guaranteed to the citizens of India by a piece of paper called constitution of India I hope you heard of it.

Now comes the part of skills, I don't know if you live in India or not but we churn more engineers than total newborns in many countries. So unless you consider 4 year technical course as unskilled job and pakda selling to be very skilled job I think you are not on very strong footing.

AI and statistics are given as example of specialization for getting job which is again not provided with facts that how many AI jobs were created by industry just to hide those insignificant numbers compared to millions of skilled engineers entering the work force. I happened to have worked a bit on AI so I know the number of jobs you are talking about.


Example of haldiram or bikanerwala is given which is again wrong, they didn't reach there but selling pakoda, infact I can quote you so many startup that failed miserably trying to sell food, so unless you think there is space for thousands of haldiram in market I again think that example was diversion tactic.


And finally by clever deflecting the topic from living wages and prime minister's indifference to reducing job the topic is cleverly diverted to dignity of labour. If you read again I nowhere said selling pakoda is wrong, infact I told you problems faced by them. Also that unrealistic and lala land you are living in come down to earth, I can show you thousands of examples in a small city where Gutkha sellers with tea and pakoda and cigarettes and what not are still in that same shop from past 40-50 years. NO THEY DON'T EARN 25k-30k.

Now answer on topic when economy is booming and more importantly world economy is growing at a fantastic pace why are those jobs reducing? And please before you claim anything from your high horse like jobs in AI or 25k for pakoda sellers please provide some back up cuz those numbers are laughable and kind of insulting to same pakoda sellers you are trying to dignify.

@Shajida Khan

Does this count as collateral damage? Now look what you have done!

 

[BlackOpsIndia]

The government has one responsibility: to strike a balance between interest of common people and that of businesses and then getting out of the way. Beyond this, its all empty promises.

Did PM himself begot those 13 million people?

Did he forced them to study economically-worthless courses like Phd in Sociology without any market-useful skills?

Upshot is when and how will personal responsibility factor into this equation?

The current administration has done few things right. They worked towards making business easier to do. They simplified taxation, though it is still to be implemented in a wide scale fashion.

Now here is what I would have expected these 13 million 'debutante' in 'job' markets. If they had an ounce of capability some of them should have found how to get a cheaper version of this

https://www.amazon.in/Anova-Sous-Immersion-Circulator-Black/dp/B00UET2UI2

and would have catered some quality Sous Vide cooking in India. May be some of them already do it. You see, the way you progress is by offering a value. If you offer the right value, people will pay for it. The innovation is in building the proverbial better mouse trap. I am yet to see most of these 13 millions to do this. They just harp and cry for PM to do something. It is not PM's responsibility it is their own responsibility. After all you cann't sit on your posterior and want all the goodies to come to you.

Why are brushing under the carpet the 50-70% reduction in decent paying jobs? They were there before Modi, is this topic about business and startups? This is about jobs and the way they are vanishing and what govt is doing.

You can't run away saying we didn't ask you to study. Yes you did, you gave us seat in institution you accredited it with UGC. If govt won't look for job creation and instead start reducing them who will?

And no govt job is not just to strike the balance between interest of common people and business. It's first and foremost job is to be answerable to citizens, to provide them basic eminities. How mockingly you reduced whole GOI into a single I don't have any responsibility attitude! If you can't handle it resign, you can't even maintain the number of jobs that were there from years and now you lecture that it's that fault of unemployed and educated youth???? WTF!

 

[_Anonymous_]

Why are brushing under the carpet the 50-70% reduction in decent paying jobs? They were there before Modi, is this topic about business and startups? This is about jobs and the way they are vanishing and what govt is doing.

You can't run away saying we didn't ask you to study. Yes you did, you gave us seat in institution you accredited it with UGC. If govt won't look for job creation and instead start reducing them who will?

And no govt job is not just to strike the balance between interest of common people and business. It's first and foremost job is to be answerable to citizens, to provide them basic eminities. How mockingly you reduced whole GOI into a single I don't have any responsibility attitude! If you can't handle it resign, you can't even maintain the number of jobs that were there from years and now you lecture that it's that fault of unemployed and educated youth???? WTF!

That this government has failed in creating more jobs is indisputable. That they have also failed to boost infrastructure creation exponentially is also true to an extent . But can anyone deny the sincerity of their efforts . Can anyone deny that the NPA's the banks were saddled with were purely due to capital cronyism courtesy the Congress led UPA ? Can anyone deny that the economic sluggishness and lack of adequate capital apart from land and labour reform are great inhibitors to employment generation which in turn owes much to the debilitated state of the banks thanks in great measure to the accumulated NPA's?

Without getting into the pakoda vs AI controversy here , aren't we kidding ourselves that even if the economy were booming job creation still wouldn't be in a position to cope up with the sheer nos of graduates being churned out - technically skilled or not . Does anyone here believe that government would continue being an employment generator in perpetuity ? That too secure jobs till one retires ! What do you think AI and increasing digitization of the economy , any economy , is going to result in ? More jobs ?

What then is the solution in your esteemed opinion ? Jobs or entrepreneurship ? Be it selling pakodas or pav bhajis or incubating tech ventures in Bangalore or in the services sector !

 

[BlackOpsIndia]

That this government has failed in creating more jobs is indisputable. That they have also failed to boost infrastructure creation exponentially is also true to an extent . But can anyone deny the sincerity of their efforts . Can anyone deny that the NPA's the banks were saddled with were purely due to capital cronyism courtesy the Congress led UPA ? Can anyone deny that the economic sluggishness and lack of adequate capital apart from land and labour reform are great inhibitors to employment generation which in turn owes much to the debilitated state of the banks thanks in great measure to the accumulated NPA's?

Without getting into the pakoda vs AI controversy here , aren't we kidding ourselves that even if the economy were booming job creation still wouldn't be in a position to cope up with the sheer nos of graduates being churned out - technically skilled or not . Does anyone here believe that government would continue being an employment generator in perpetuity ? That too secure jobs till one retires ! What do you think AI and increasing digitization of the economy , any economy , is going to result in ? More jobs ?

What then is the solution in your esteemed opinion ? Jobs or entrepreneurship ? Be it selling pakodas or pav bhajis or incubating tech ventures in Bangalore or in the services sector !

The topic was never about selling pakoda unless a member cleverly deflected it to it.


See if the private sector jobs reduce that's due to market but public sector jobs are almost fixed, they don't reduce or increase much due to a administration structure developed over years. When these job decreases and not by 5-10% but by whooping 50% or more there is something wrong.

Now I never doubted govt sincerity regarding job creation as they talk about it multiple times but now that credibility is worth doubting. It's not just you can't keep up the number of stable jobs which were always there you even justify them by such ludicrous examples! This is not sincerity and then Amit Shah again justify it in RS! Is this seriousness? This is mockery, they are giving the reason to doubt their efforts when what's happening on ground is exactly opposite of what they say.

 

[_Anonymous_]

See if the private sector jobs reduce that's due to market but public sector jobs are almost fixed, they don't reduce or increase much due to a administration structure developed over years. When these job decreases and not by 5-10% but by whooping 50% or more there is something wrong

I thought I addressed that point in my previous post . let me illustrate my case . CST is levied by the Central government . In the past few years the entire process has been digitised leading to reduced corruption apart from some outsourcing which in time to come may increase . Now with the implementation of GST , what are you going to do with all those babus employed in the Sales Tax DPT - Central or state , Excise and Customs , local state taxes like octroi , entry tax , road tax , etc ?

 

[BlackOpsIndia]

I thought I addressed that point in my previous post . let me illustrate my case . CST is levied by the Central government . In the past few years the entire process has been digitised leading to reduced corruption apart from some outsourcing which in time to come may increase . Now with the implementation of GST , what are you going to do with all those babus employed in the Sales Tax DPT - Central or state , Excise and Customs , local state taxes like octroi , entry tax , road tax , etc ?

Whoo! Hold on man, are you saying there is excess of workers in govt departments????

There are numerous reports by both GOI and other agencies that there is serious lack of staff in most departments and I my friends who are employed in the departments you mentioned are crying from last 3 years that work load is way too high as department is functioning at half of his sanctioned strength.

GST is more like a name change, structural change it does not reduced tax collecting officers or anything like it, instead it increased the tax base which automatically require more people to cater that new tax base unless you want to put it on older employees with more work.

 

[_Anonymous_]

Whoo! Hold on man, are you saying there is excess of workers in govt departments????

There are numerous reports by both GOI and other agencies that there is serious lack of staff in most departments and I my friends who are employed in the departments you mentioned are crying from last 3 years that work load is way too high as department is functioning at half of his sanctioned strength.

GST is more like a name change, structural change it does not reduced tax collecting officers or anything like it, instead it increased the tax base which automatically require more people to cater that new tax base unless you want to put it on older employees with more work.

You mean government departments are finally working for a change . That too beyond the 9-5 routine with extended lunch /tea breaks and addabaaji in between . On weekends and public holidays too.
Welcome to the private sector !!

Personally , I feel for you . No government servant should ever vote for the NDA particularly such as headed by Modi . Hope you don't repeat such an error whatever the hike in the salaries courtesy the 7 th Pay Commission recommendations .

 

[BlackOpsIndia]

You mean government departments are finally working for a change . That too beyond the 9-5 routine with extended lunch /tea breaks and addabaaji in between . On weekends and public holidays too.
Welcome to the private sector !!

Personally , I feel for you . No government servant should ever vote for the NDA particularly such as headed by Modi . Hope you don't repeat such an error whatever the hike in the salaries courtesy the 7 th Pay Commission recommendations .

Vote or don't it's not the issue and the pay commission is not introduced by NDA infact while we are on that topic this particular govt gave comparatively least hike.

There is nothing to rejoice if private sector is exploiting you and it will be a matter of shame if GOI start exploiting people just because private sector is doing so, instead they should make sure workers in private sector are protected but that will be too much to ask with this attitude.

 

[Kshithij Sharma]

Interesting, Bank jobs and bureaucratic jobs are degraded as pencil pushing while maintaining dignity of Pakada selling in same breath!


As far as entitlement goes YES we are entitled to dignified and meaningful life and the state resources are to be used equally for the welfare of people. All these things are covered and guaranteed to the citizens of India by a piece of paper called constitution of India I hope you heard of it.

Now comes the part of skills, I don't know if you live in India or not but we churn more engineers than total newborns in many countries. So unless you consider 4 year technical course as unskilled job and pakda selling to be very skilled job I think you are not on very strong footing.

AI and statistics are given as example of specialization for getting job which is again not provided with facts that how many AI jobs were created by industry just to hide those insignificant numbers compared to millions of skilled engineers entering the work force. I happened to have worked a bit on AI so I know the number of jobs you are talking about.


Example of haldiram or bikanerwala is given which is again wrong, they didn't reach there but selling pakoda, infact I can quote you so many startup that failed miserably trying to sell food, so unless you think there is space for thousands of haldiram in market I again think that example was diversion tactic.


And finally by clever deflecting the topic from living wages and prime minister's indifference to reducing job the topic is cleverly diverted to dignity of labour. If you read again I nowhere said selling pakoda is wrong, infact I told you problems faced by them. Also that unrealistic and lala land you are living in come down to earth, I can show you thousands of examples in a small city where Gutkha sellers with tea and pakoda and cigarettes and what not are still in that same shop from past 40-50 years. NO THEY DON'T EARN 25k-30k.

Now answer on topic when economy is booming and more importantly world economy is growing at a fantastic pace why are those jobs reducing? And please before you claim anything from your high horse like jobs in AI or 25k for pakoda sellers please provide some back up cuz those numbers are laughable and kind of insulting to same pakoda sellers you are trying to dignify.

Government jobs are not your birthright. They are just maintenance jobs to regulate and maintain the state. They are not directly productive. The push to private sector is exactly for that - to become more productive. The person who sells pakoda does production in the process. He consumes onions, flour, cooking oil and in return gives pakodas for the working class people who need something to eat as refreshment.

Modi has explicitly stated his intention to privatise most of the services. Even OFB and defence is being privatised. So, by job creation, he meant private jobs, not government jobs.

Whoo! Hold on man, are you saying there is excess of workers in govt departments????

There are numerous reports by both GOI and other agencies that there is serious lack of staff in most departments and I my friends who are employed in the departments you mentioned are crying from last 3 years that work load is way too high as department is functioning at half of his sanctioned strength.

GST is more like a name change, structural change it does not reduced tax collecting officers or anything like it, instead it increased the tax base which automatically require more people to cater that new tax base unless you want to put it on older employees with more work.

The job is still being done. This shows that the work was actually appropriate for a person even without filling all the so called vacancy. It is not exploitation by government. If you remember 1980-1990, the women in the house used to work 14-16 hours a day. There was no mixer, grinder, washing machine. The electricity supply was bad and LPG connections were only for select few. Women used to collect wood, fetch water in pots, take care of children, wash clothes, grind flour etc almost continually entire day. That is some extreme hard work which no one is being asked to do now. If you think you are entitled to reduced work with high rewards without considering the situation of "resource scarcity" and huge competition, you are highly selfish.

It is impossible to negotiate with those who say what is mine is mine but what is yours is negotiable.

 

[_Anonymous_]

Government jobs are not your birthright. They are just maintenance jobs to regulate and maintain the state. They are not directly productive. The push to private sector is exactly for that - to become more productive. The person who sells pakoda does production in the process. He consumes onions, flour, cooking oil and in return gives pakodas for the working class people who need something to eat as refreshment.

Modi has explicitly stated his intention to privatise most of the services. Even OFB and defence is being privatised. So, by job creation, he meant private jobs, not government jobs.

The job is still being done. This shows that the work was actually appropriate for a person even without filling all the so called vacancy. It is not exploitation by government. If you remember 1980-1990, the women in the house used to work 14-16 hours a day. There was no mixer, grinder, washing machine. The electricity supply was bad and LPG connections were only for select few. Women used to collect wood, fetch water in pots, take care of children, wash clothes, grind flour etc almost continually entire day. That is some extreme hard work which no one is being asked to do now. If you think you are entitled to reduced work with high rewards without considering the situation of "resource scarcity" and huge competition, you are highly selfish.

It is impossible to negotiate with those who say what is mine is mine but what is yours is negotiable.

I never thought the day would come when I'd like or agree with your post . But I wholeheartedly endorse what you've written . You see @BlackOpsIndia , there's not much sympathy for government servant in India or this forum. That's just the way it is .

 

[BlackOpsIndia]

I never thought the day would come when I'd like or agree with your post . But I wholeheartedly endorse what you've written . You see @BlackOpsIndia , there's not much sympathy for government servant in India or this forum. That's just the way it is .

In case you are mistaking me as govt servant, I am not. I am an unfortunate entrepreneur about which I am given lectures by people who I don't think have any relation to it as reflected by their lose talk about business.

 

[_Anonymous_]

In case you are mistaking me as govt servant, I am not. I am an unfortunate entrepreneur about which I am given lectures by people who I don't think have any relation to it as reflected by their lose talk about business.

Sure. Whatever you say .