USA now mentioning South China Sea and Himalayas together. Response of Indian stance on SCS finally? Hopefully we take full advantage of the situation in favour of our Naval capabilities.
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USA now mentioning South China Sea and Himalayas together. Response of Indian stance on SCS finally? Hopefully we take full advantage of the situation in favour of our Naval capabilities.
Beijing has an eye on Ladakh’s rivers - Open The Magazine
While there is a lively social media debate on between Colonel Ajai Shukla (Retd), the Strategic Affairs Editor of Business Standard, and General VK Singh (Retd), currently Minister of State for Road Transport and Highways, on whether or not the Chinese have “pulled back”, the central question...
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Just read the conclusion of this report. Although you could read whole report if you have time.
Check how we had a robust industrial base pre independence era which was only destroyed by interventionist policy of government post independence.
Correct. India was a major industrial power before independence and both our GDP and industrial output fell shareply after that.
And then Indians took over and we are still ruled by Indians.
On a contrary note, we should never compare an industrial output captured by a colonial power from their subjects with no regards for its people or its resources. India exploited by British may well be an industrial hub, but it ceases once British left us on our own.
This was a specific response to your specific statement that India never had decent manufacturing capacity inAnd then Indians took over and we are still ruled by Indians.
On a contrary note, we should never compare an industrial output captured by a colonial power from their subjects with no regards for its people or its resources. India exploited by British may well be an industrial hub, but it ceases once British left us on our own.
'History'. You also said this
So the point of India being under a colonial rule is irrelevant.
As I have said earlier History is a big term...
Hi all, my first post.
Will start off by saying that inspite of all the arrogance and bravado from the Chinese, their military forums show that they are actually worried that a serious conflict might break out with India.
Their military forum is nowadays 80% filled with India related topics. Its funny reading (auto translate) their arrogant comments that India is nothing and not worth their time, while constantly creating topics on every small development in India.
They are giving serious competition to our western neighbor in obsessing over iver India.
Will start off by saying that inspite of all the arrogance and bravado from the Chinese, their military forums show that they are actually worried that a serious conflict might break out with India.
Their military forum is nowadays 80% filled with India related topics. Its funny reading (auto translate) their arrogant comments that India is nothing and not worth their time, while constantly creating topics on every small development in India.
They are giving serious competition to our western neighbor in obsessing over iver India.
And then Indians took over and we are still ruled by Indians.
On a contrary note, we should never compare an industrial output captured by a colonial power from their subjects with no regards for its people or its resources. India exploited by British may well be an industrial hub, but it ceases once British left us on our own.
Wow. what a way to hide the enormous mismanagement by stooges of commies.
Which Chinese forums are you referring to? The ones I see are full of fear an trepedation. The Pakistani ones are just trying to cope with the massive psychological blow that comes from knowing your daddy's been kicked in the nuts.
It was built on British money though.
And after WW2, it's obvious that investment will die out, made worse by independence. And later on we decided we didn't need those industries until 1962, when the govt woke up to the reality of the world.
WW2 industry for weapons. Weren't we talking about our production capabilities, or did I miss something?
British industries built in India by Indian money you mean out of which pvt enterprises like Walchand's HAL was taken over by the British for the war effort to build & support RIAF planes in India.
You missed the obvious. He was going to spin- so you missed his spin. That question is called 'rhetorical question'
A lot of discussion on BR focuses on why the Chinese have initiated the ingression and their thinking and motivation , etc. Very academic discussions which are required only after the situation is resolved.
The Chinese have intruded because they can. End of.
We only need to discuss our practical reaction on the ground. We dont have to react immediately but when we are reasonably prepared for any counter actions from the bat eaters. And they will react because they have delusions of grandeur.
No need to get provoked by baiters like shukla or even panag(not using their ranks deliberately).
But reaction is a necessity because unless chinese noses are rubbed in the dirt publicly, they will keep on repeating these incursions.
Time of action can be 1 month, 2 months , 6 months , a year , but has to be visible and unambiguous. The cycle of relative painless incursions has to stop.
And why have our retired folk become so publicity hungry ?
Trying to still look relevant after retirement is not becoming of them.
2 aspects to this media hungry behavior.
Firstly you give the enemy unnecessary confidence by discussing your own weakness so openly.
2ndly you effect the confidence of your own troops by continuously second guessing the army staffs actions . The politicians i don't care about, they can contribute nothing to our defense. Only except them not to become road blocks.
The Chinese have intruded because they can. End of.
We only need to discuss our practical reaction on the ground. We dont have to react immediately but when we are reasonably prepared for any counter actions from the bat eaters. And they will react because they have delusions of grandeur.
No need to get provoked by baiters like shukla or even panag(not using their ranks deliberately).
But reaction is a necessity because unless chinese noses are rubbed in the dirt publicly, they will keep on repeating these incursions.
Time of action can be 1 month, 2 months , 6 months , a year , but has to be visible and unambiguous. The cycle of relative painless incursions has to stop.
And why have our retired folk become so publicity hungry ?
Trying to still look relevant after retirement is not becoming of them.
2 aspects to this media hungry behavior.
Firstly you give the enemy unnecessary confidence by discussing your own weakness so openly.
2ndly you effect the confidence of your own troops by continuously second guessing the army staffs actions . The politicians i don't care about, they can contribute nothing to our defense. Only except them not to become road blocks.
I've noticed that a lot of our top brass are making their way into Twitter. Dunno if it's just on their own initiative or there's a plan out there to make the military's voice heard in some way.
Anyway, welcome to the forum.