Pakistani Propaganda Busting thread

vstol Jockey said:
I gave very clear hints about what I meant but it seems you could not make out the point. Please read that post again and you will probably understand provided you know about the incidents referred to in the post. I had clarified it already in previous post.
In 1947, the British army officer commanding the batallion in skardu handed over Gilgit and Baltistan on platter to Pakistan and the shia soldiers there, just shouted allah o akbar and changed over to Pakistan. The same change over can happen once again.
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Wasn't dismissing your points at all. Was just saying that so many incidents and detailed history will not be known to most including myself, especially when things are put as one-liners.
 
STEPHEN COHEN said:
I dont understand how can we even think of war in the middle of a lockdown

War needs resources

And we are frittering away our savings and resources because of this lockdown
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War could be a possibility before 2024 if the economy starts improving a lot but not enough for Modi's re-election.

Given the current mindset prevailing on both sides, at some stage our conventional superiority has to reveal itself in some way. It is totally silly that when we have much more capabilities, we are still not able to show our dominance at all. Look how we step backwards with respect to China.
 
thinkingcap81 said:
War could be a possibility before 2024 if the economy starts improving a lot but not enough for Modi's re-election.

Given the current mindset prevailing on both sides, at some stage our conventional superiority has to reveal itself in some way. It is totally silly that when we have much more capabilities, we are still not able to show our dominance at all. Look how we step backwards with respect to China.
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War is not about just about firepower anymore

It is about your national economic capacity to deal with losses and disruptions

The present damage being done to the economy by Corona will take more than a year to recover
 
vstol Jockey said:
I gave very clear hints about what I meant but it seems you could not make out the point. Please read that post again and you will probably understand provided you know about the incidents referred to in the post. I had clarified it already in previous post.
In 1947, the British army officer commanding the batallion in skardu handed over Gilgit and Baltistan on platter to Pakistan and the shia soldiers there, just shouted allah o akbar and changed over to Pakistan. The same change over can happen once again.
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I think the acts of the British officers in seizing Skardu can safely be dismissed as arising out of a espirit de corps or out of a sense of loyalty to one's regiment. It was British perfidy through & through. Besides around the time of partition all Muslims were head over heels in love with the idea of Pakistan on both sides of the border.

If we were to undertake the invasion of PoJ&K under the notion that the local Shias there would be open to welcome us with flowers, like the US coalition thought they would be in Iraq during Gulf War -2 , we're being self delusional. Our only option once we retake that piece of land is expelling all the occupants & immediately filling it in with ex service men, turning it into a Garrison state.


Any Nehru / Gandhi style displays of largesse & we've the example of Kashmir, Shaheen Bagh & the Tablighis before us. Let's not forget that our neighbours both Paxtan & Bangladesh have been brought up on a steady diet of Hinduphobia & anti Semitism since Partition , before & later.
 
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vstol Jockey said:
IA is under GOI and follows the dictates of the civilian government who can't make out their as$ from their elbow. If I was RM of India, I will allow IA to respond across IB becoz PA has been violating even the IB. This will create an uncertainity and allow us to dominate escalation ladder all across the frontier with Pak.
But this should be done with a clear objective to have well defined aim to escalate to full blown war.
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Apkey muh mein ghee shakker. But it will be insiders job to create hurdle. The same sacchar commission report is used again and again to shout dalit, bechar, lachar, pichda , dalit musalman, dalit isai, and what not. Some laws and reports and comissions are specially created for the subversion.
And later they get played by the hands of adversary by spreading rumours to create chaos. Just like in Delhi and then later in Mumbai.
Why Delhi and Mumbai, why not any other state? One capital another financial capital and the migrant issue, migrants are not aliens they are part of the society only unless until some of them are illegal Bangladeshis ;)
 
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screambowl said:
Apkey muh mein ghee shakker. But it will be insiders job to create hurdle. The same sacchar commission report is used again and again to shout dalit, bechar, lachar, pichda , dalit musalman, dalit isai, and what not. Some laws and reports and comissions are specially created for the subversion.
And later they get played by the hands of adversary by spreading rumours to create chaos. Just like in Delhi and then later in Mumbai.
Why Delhi and Mumbai, why not any other state? One capital another financial capital and the migrant issue, migrants are not aliens they are part of the society only unless until some of them are illegal Bangladeshis ;)
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Our enemy will never any opportunity to destroy us even if it means destroying itself. Pakistanis started this rumour that covid19 will effect only non muslims and the target was Indian Muslim. But while few in India have fallen for this stupidity, the real effect has been on pak muslims. While we are making isolation wards, they are making new graveyards.
Sacchar like Mandal, was a communist who's aim was to destroy India.
 
vstol Jockey said:
IA is under GOI and follows the dictates of the civilian government who can't make out their as$ from their elbow. If I was RM of India, I will allow IA to respond across IB becoz PA has been violating even the IB. This will create an uncertainity and allow us to dominate escalation ladder all across the frontier with Pak.
But this should be done with a clear objective to have well defined aim to escalate to full blown war.
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Indian politicial class is heavily compromised by foreign powers including baniya party ruling this country right now. Even top military leadership is heavily compromised .media Ka to khena kya. Inke bas Ka Kuch nahi hai. 270 sukhoi hone ke baad bhi ro rahe hai ki or chaiye humey dalali ke liye pasie.
 
not only indian political class but also many top functionaries of the indian military are either incompetent or lack courage for innovative thinking.all these punjabi penchant for pappi jhappy and north indian tendency to look at pakistani as a lost brother is beyond me.its not for a surprise that most of our military nuclear doctrine was given by ppl like k.subramanium.they are comparitively very less affected by these nonsense.

here people are talking about taking back pojk ,then what will you do with that piece of land having nearly 80 lakhs muslims ,are not j&k enough for the violence which has been ringfenced by such a great loss of both man and material.now you want to extend the j&k by another 150 mile so all the viloence will only spiralled into further larger territory.dont for a moment think that u will expell that sort of ppl from pok ,nobody will let you do that ,you are a part of the world order and not big enough to dictate it .grand standing is a thing which is better left for sometime.

a nation which has been not been able to flush bangladeshi termites nearly 2 crore ,taking job and sending remittances to their country as well as creating law and order situation ,an openly hostile majority of the muslim population .i think india is already more in its plate than it can chew and pakistan can happily shell india for a few decades more ,till we get ball to adrress theese issues and be sure when we will be in a crisis our significant population not only aiding the enemy but also rise in revolt. so give our pok dream a rest and be ready for counter shelling.
 
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vikata said:
not only indian political class but also many top functionaries of the indian military are either incompetent or lack courage for innovative thinking.all these punjabi penchant for pappi jhappy and north indian tendency to look at pakistani as a lost brother is beyond me.its not for a surprise that most of our military nuclear doctrine was given by ppl like k.subramanium.they are comparitively very less affected by these nonsense.

here people are talking about taking back pojk ,then what will you do with that piece of land having nearly 80 lakhs muslims ,are not j&k enough for the violence which has been ringfenced by such a great loss of both man and material.now you want to extend the j&k by another 150 mile so all the viloence will only spiralled into further larger territory.dont for a moment think that u will expell that sort of ppl from pok ,nobody will let you do that ,you are a part of the world order and not big enough to dictate it .grand standing is a thing which is better left for sometime.

a nation which has been not been able to flush bangladeshi termites nearly 2 crore ,taking job and sending remittances to their country as well as creating law and order situation ,an openly hostile majority of the muslim population .i think india is already more in its plate than it can chew and pakistan can happily shell india for a few decades more ,till we get ball to adrress theese issues and be sure when we will be in a crisis our significant population not only aiding the enemy but also rise in revolt. so give our pok dream a rest and be ready for counter shelling.
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Indian military leadership is there just to make money for themselves and there kids, drink desi daroo an do parties inside there cantonments... while sending poor villagers to fight Jihadi and to die in numbers.
 
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Hand over media to CDS with respect to Pakistan and China. 27 lakh ki fauj khali baithi hui hai.

How spokes person from MEA Raveesh Kumar and other babus handled the Pakistani propaganda is hilarious. These idiots know nothing about ISPR. Normally they get input from here and there and present. But they could have done it better. Just appeasing Indian media for personal benefits and for domestic consumption is useless.

The ISPR guys were all over twitter, and India media listened to Ghafoora more than Raveesh babu :LOL: . Incapability of these MEA officials is hurting India more than anything else. They are failing in PR.

Last time they again licked to that Princess Hend of UAE. There was no need to tweet after tweet, by that Navdeep Suri. One tweet was enough.
Chaatney ko Diplomacy nahi kehtey.
 
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Pak account poses as ‘Omani princess’ tweets anti-India meterial; princess clarifies
APR 22, 2020

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An increase in the number of Pakistani accounts changing the name to Arabic names or after names of Arabic royalty has been seen.

A Pakistani ID @pak_fauj changed its name to Omani Royalty Mona bint Fahd al Said @SayyidaMona to spread propaganda and tweeted anti-India rant.

Twitter gives the option of changing one’s Twitter name, username and description but its history is not managed publicly.

The handle Pak Army took full advantage of it and changed its profile’s identity to show it as the profile of Omani Princes. What followed an anti-India tweet on ties between India and the Gulf which was retweeted by many including by Pakistani media personnel.

Incidentally, to save itself from being reported and get blocked by Twitter, the account had “parody” mentioned in its bio, something not noticed by many. Twitter doesn’t block parody accounts.

The name of the account was changed recently so this username is present in Twitter cache since a simple search of @pak_fauj will lead to the parody account @SayyidaMona. Also, many old tweets by the account were not deleted, perhaps to show it is an old account.

The unique twitter ID of @SayyidaMona is 2870592601 which cannot be modified or transferred. Interestingly, WION was able to crawl out several old tweets from the same account which have been deleted now and it clearly shows Pakistan’s ISPR is behind the account. Links from deleted tweet – pic.twitter.com/rYCleSt8SN and pic.twitter.com/LLt3FN1Yed when in google searches shows number of Pakistan army links.

Omani Princess clarifies

Meanwhile, the Omani Princess Mona bint Fahd who was impersonated has issued a statement. In the statement, she said,”Friends, First of all I thank you for your concern to verify the offensive post published through an account impersonating me, which you are sure that I have no connection with it.”

Adding,”With full trust in all of you in strengthening awareness among all regarding such activities, which are not acceptable to the Omani society, I confirm again that my presence in social media is restricted on the following accounts: @hhmonaalsaid and @MonaFahad 13.”

Indian envoy to Oman Munu Mahawar thanked the Omani princes for clarification. In a tweet he said,”I thank HH @MonaFahad13 for clarification on fake social media posts attributed to her” and India values its “friendly relations with Oman and will continue working closely with the Government and people of Oman to further strengthen our special relationship.”

Pak FM quotes non-existent Omani statement

Wednesday’s case of Pakistani accounts changing the name has been the only case. A number of Pakistani accounts have been seen trying to change names into Arabic sounding names and tweet anti-India material. And while this is happening, Pakistani foreign minister SM Qureshi was seen fishing in troubled waters.

Highlighting the huge Indian diaspora in Gulf, he said, “Gulf..for example Oman has said Indians working in the country should leave”.

No such thing has been said by the Oman govt and it seems he was attributing it fake tweet which was attributed to Omani princess. He also said he will write to Gulf foreign ministers and ask them to reset ties with India over the situation of Muslims in the country, something that will not find many takers in the region.

Source: Thanks WIONews.com

Pak account poses as ‘Omani princess’ tweets anti-India materiel; princess clarifies
 
screambowl said:
awwww uyeinnn uyeinnn... mommmyyyy Pakistanis doing propaganda. World save us, we are soft power we are growing economy we are a cultured country, Gandhis is our God and Nehru is our Chacha 😪

It all started because some MEA guys fell on their knees even when people in India were countering that princess Hend due to tweet of the Hindu guys exposing the Tablighis. They were showing her the reality and Pakistanis took the advantage.

Whether you like it or not. Pakistanis has full support of Muslims world. And hot girls respect bold guys not pussies!! Arab princess will fall for you if you show some balls not holes.
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As senior member, I demand the right to award positive ratings a la PDF. I mean, without which neither does being a senior member count for much nor does such a gem of a post get duly acknowledged. Most posts of this member is equal to it's weight in gold. Some like this one in platinum. The least you could is acknowledge it. @Ashwin ; @Falcon ; @nair

P. S on days like this I really miss Kshitij Sharma.
 
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