He suffers from Stockholm syndrome. These people were driven out of their lands by islamists
Lok Sabha passes Citizenship Bill amidst Opposition outcry
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I've answered you.
You haven't listened.
There is a time and place for everything.
The time and place for the Muslims was 2009 through 2013 on PDF and WAB.
Now it's your turn. Don't feel bad. I'm an equal opportunity moohfat.
Cheers, Doc
You truly truly truly do not appreciate the seminal moment in history that Maharashtra is in the larger scheme of things fir this land and it's ancestral faith and the fascist imported Christian ideology of Hindutva.
Insiders know well the ripples of Maharashtra. And how they are spreading.
And to where.
Can you IMAGINE a Thackeray and Sonia Gandhi ...
This is war. Total war.
Cheers, Doc
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As a policy we do not encourage Religious discussion... But since the topic in hand is an important one and depends on national security, we are allowing this.
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Would not agree on that... I sure am proud of the epics like Mahabharata.. or Shakuntala.. or kadambari by Bana bhatta and several other works... Or the architectural wonders like the kailasa temple, and numerous other temples.. There is no hyphenation with non Hindus here.
But, judeo Christian civilization just outstripped hindu, islamic and other civilizations, after the renaissance which fostered a spirit of enquiry, that led to the industrial revolution, and great scientific works..
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Delhi's anti-terror unit arrested 4 men — Mohammed Tufail (52), Mohammed Mazahir (32), Mohammed Munsad (27) and Mohammed Ehsan (30) — from GT road when they came to supply a cache of weapons to miscreants amidst the Citizenship Amendment Act turmoil. They are from Kairana, UP. Raj Shekhar Jha on Twitter ( )
I agree with you and this is what i want our so called Hindu leaders also to do, look deep into our glorious past to find affirmation and self worth and work towards the future with the assurance of a confident nation, without the need to witch hunt minorities or carry a permanent chip on the shoulder.But unfortunately to many among us, including those in power, baiting non Hindus is the only way they can find reassurance of their self esteem.
Tf they are all named Muhammed. At least Christians introduce variety to their names by altering spellings and contractions.
Bro, when will the realisation come to the rabids (as it did to me some years ago) that your problem is with an incompatible ideology.
Why demonise your own people?
As @_Anonymous_ very eloquently penned down in my ghosted biography above, this is no different in reverse to what happened with us in Persia.
It's personal to me.
Cheers, Doc
There's a larger issue here. I'm surprised a person of your erudition hasn't noticed it. The issue is of the results of the NRC in Assam. The final results are out. It's incumbent on both the state & central governments to make a final tally & deport those declared as illegal migrants. Now, contrary to the expectation of the Assamese, the state government & the central government the number of illegal migrants the NRC reported were around 1.2 million Bangladeshi Hindus +0.7 million Bangladeshi Muslims.
The Assamese want both the Illegal Bangladeshi Hindus & Muslims deported. Such an act may satisfy the Assamese but would be suicidal for the BJP Or any other political party but particularly the BJP. In the event the Assamese themselves are disappointed with the numbers as they expected several millions more not to meet the stringent standards set to meet the criteria of qualifying for citizenship.
This act thus was necessary. What we can expect is the SC expressing it's dissatisfaction with the current NRC & issuing fresh guidelines for a new NRC in Assam. The Bangladeshi Hindus will then get citizenship thanks to the CAA. Those who don't meet the criteria will be put in detention camps.
This will have the salutary effect of scaring those illegal Bangladeshi Muslim migrants back to Bangladesh. This is already happening. The BBC has been reporting that up to 200-300 ppl are entering Bangladesh from the Indian side every day & for every one apprehended, there are 3-4 going across unnoticed.
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I take that back, the Constitutional requirement mentions reasonable classification and just stating minority or religious oppression wouldn't stand in SC.
1. The Bill is an inclusion act and not Exclusion. Therefore any criticism that it discriminates doesn't stand at all.
2. The Wisdom of the bill can be debated but not negated. Court cannot question on the wisdom of the bill.
3. Indian constitution doesn't provide any provisions on the filter that India shall use for aliens.
Harish Salve clearly explained the legality behind the Act
Even if we strictly consider national interest, Indian state would be better taking the side of 35 million Assamese than some 1 million Bangladeshis( including Hindus). I would rather throw out the bengalis than have millions of Indigenous Assamese take up arms against the Indian state, in this state sponsored exercise to change the state demographics. How is this any different to congress winking the illegal migration of Bengalis into the state for vote bank politics. In my point of view Indan state is dutity bound to show committment to 35 million indigenous assamese who chose to be indian and not Bangladeshis to chose not to live in Bangladesh as Bangladeshis....
There is a very real logistical problem here.
Let's say we identify all illegals and round them up.
Who is going to take them?
Can we force them over any international border?
Can we set them adrift at sea?
Can we inter them in camps? For how long? It's maja ni life. They eat anyways on our money. Live on our land.
Then there is the "little" problem of antagonising and constantly whipping 200+ million of your own folk.
Id like to take the liberty here of asking my friends @vstol Jockey @STEPHEN COHEN and @Deathstar something ...
Take Kashmir. 9 million Muslims.
We have a huge part of our army locked up there.
Do you know what will happen if 200+ million of them start feeling alienated?
We do not have enough guns.
And no, neither do the brave UP Hindus from the cow belt under takla yogi.
Cheers, Doc
Let's say we identify all illegals and round them up.
Who is going to take them?
Can we force them over any international border?
Can we set them adrift at sea?
Can we inter them in camps? For how long? It's maja ni life. They eat anyways on our money. Live on our land.
Then there is the "little" problem of antagonising and constantly whipping 200+ million of your own folk.
Id like to take the liberty here of asking my friends @vstol Jockey @STEPHEN COHEN and @Deathstar something ...
Take Kashmir. 9 million Muslims.
We have a huge part of our army locked up there.
Do you know what will happen if 200+ million of them start feeling alienated?
We do not have enough guns.
And no, neither do the brave UP Hindus from the cow belt under takla yogi.
Cheers, Doc
Yeh Shah Bano 2.0 wala kand karke bar bar hinduon ko dara nahi sakte. Woh congressio k din chale gaye
I overestimated your erudition. Those 35 million include the Bangladeshi migrants - both Hindus & Muslims including the so called illegal ones & the Doubtful voters.
In fact the story goes that if one were to take a head count of all those inhabiting Assam today, the original Assamese inhabitants Hindus + Muslims + tribals are already a minority.
Make no mistake, India is duty bound to take in the Bangladeshi Hindus. In today's India, if there were a referendum on it, you'd be in a minority. Even the Congress wouldn't oppose it. However, the Congress in true fashion would look the other way if it came to Bangladeshi Muslims coming in, pay lip service to the Assamese concerns, eschew hard unpopular action & continue to self aggrandise while pursuing token wefare & economic developmental schemes.
@hembo ; @hellbent ; @Gautam
The citizenship act is a precursor to the NRC. The two cannot be separated.
No one is stupid or living in a vacuum here.
India is and will remain a secular country.
There will be no law or act on the basis of faith.
You have reached the lakshman rekha of our patience.
Cheers, Doc
This is charitable because non indigenous people have already reduced the indigenous people into minorities and Assamese have had enough. Since the current NRC has popular backing and was set up by the SC, lets consider only these left out by the NRC as illegal migrants and help relocate them to Bangladesh and force them on a state and its population that don't want anymore of it. India is not duty bound to accept anymore refugees, Hindus or Muslims( in case you think I'm being unfair to Bengalees, i don't India to take in any of the Tamil refugees too). yes i understand how the politics of referendum works, in case we undertake a referendum on adopting Hindi as the national language, i recon i would be in the minority too, but it still would be bad decision and amount to self inflicted injury.