Lok Sabha passes Citizenship Bill amidst Opposition outcry

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The Lok Sabha on Monday passed the Citizenship Amendment Bill (CAB) that seeks to give citizenship to refugees from the Hindu, Christian, Buddhist, Sikh and Zoroastrian communities fleeing religious persecution from Pakistan, Bangladesh and Afghanistan. The Bill was passed 311-80 with zero abstentions, after the Opposition put up a spirited attack against it.

Responding to the five-hour debate that saw nearly 48 speakers from various parties participate, Union Home Minister Amit Shah said it was a “historic Bill” that sought to complete what the “Nehru-Liaqat pact could not do.”


To repeated questions on the National Register for Citizens (NRC), he said it would be done soon.

According to him, the Bill abided by the Constitution and “there is no violation.” “Under the principle of reasonable classification citizenship can be granted and there is no violation of Article 14,” he said.

“India can’t be a mute spectator to the religious persecution of minorities happening in our neighbouring countries. We have given refuge to everyone without exception at various points of time in history,” he said.

Adding that the Muslim population had grown to 14% from 9.8%, he said, “This Bill will not affect Indian Muslims or their rights at all.”

I would like to specially applaud Home Minister @AmitShah Ji for lucidly explaining all aspects of the Citizenship (Amendment) Bill, 2019. He also gave elaborate answers to the various points raised by respective MPs during the discussion in the Lok Sabha.​
— Narendra Modi (@narendramodi) December 9, 2019

He said that other neighbouring countries like Nepal and Sri Lanka were not mentioned as those were not theocratic states.

This is a simple amendment but hits at illegal migrants, noted the Minister. “This will benefit the Bengali refugees the most. There is no need to fear now... anyone who has or does not have document is welcome. Refugees need not fear but those coming here illegally are not welcome,” he said.

He added that the northeast would not be touched.

The majority of parties representing the northeastern States supported the Bill, as their concerns had been taken care of.

The Sikkim Kranti Morcha (SKM) opposed it, however, with MP Indra Hang Subba demanding that the State be given exemptions on the lines of other northeastern States.


Calling the Bill “heart-breaking” Trinamool MP Abhishek Banerjee said: “It is causing me great anguish and pain. Our India is all about peace. But your idea of India is all about lynchings. Our India is inclusive, your India is divisive.”

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Questioning why the Bill is only looking at three countries, he said: “Sri Lanka is there, Myanmar was part of British India. Why don’t you consider them? Because they don’t serve your political hunger. NRC was a disaster. It failed in one State and now you want to do it all over India. This Bill is anti-India and anti-Bengali also.”

DMK MP Dayanidhi Maran said: “This is a “half-hearted” Bill which has completely ignored Sri Lankan Tamils. The government is preoccupied with its hatred for Muslims.”


“You have not done anything so far to win the support of minorities or to give them comfort. Are you the Home Minister only for North India or all of India? There was no mention of Christians in the CAB in the BJP’s election manifesto, so I want to ask why the party is seeking to divide the minorities in the country.

“You say that Kashmir is part of India, will you give citizenship to Muslims who are fleeing from Pakistan-Occupied Kashmir to India? No, because you have one stand — we don’t want Muslims,” he said.

Congress MP Manish Tewari noted that “reasonable classification” as mentioned by the Home Minister should mean that equals can’t be treated as unequals.


Calling the Bill unconstitutional, he said it was not the Congress that was responsible for the partition of the country on the basis of religion. “I want to remind the House that the idea of partition on religious basis was first floated in 1935 by Hindu Mahasabha... by Savarkar.”

AIMIM chief Asaduddin Owaisi, speaking against the Bill, said: “I want to know why this government is so opposed to Muslims. Why do you hate us? After all we are also citizens of this country. This Bill has been brought in to accommodate Hindus left behind in NRC which will now make many lakh Muslims stateless. This is a historic blunder.”

He tore up a copy of the Bill, emulating, he said, Mahatma Gandhi’s act of tearing up copies of Race Laws in South Africa in 1910.

Gaurav Gogoi of the Congress demanded that Mr. Shah apologise to Gorkhas, Rajbonshis and others left out of the NRC despite being Indian citizens.

“When you couldn’t complete the NRC exercise properly for 30 crore people, how will you do so for 130 crore people?”

He asked northeastern parties to vote according to their conscience and not political compulsions.
 

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pathetic attempt to divert attention from failing economic conditions. No one I know is even bothered about this. They've all quietly made up their minds about the BJP.
 
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pathetic attempt to divert attention from failing economic conditions. No one I know is even bothered about this. They've all quietly made up their minds about the BJP.
A nation is like a computer system. There is no point of having latest hardware when you are still using windows 95. It works but efficiency is outdated. It requires latest software updates and hardware proportionately. And to do that remove the bugs and viruses first which have been acting as hurdles. Once it's clean it can be updated and so the hardware automatically.

India's software/mentality is anarchist I wont even call it ancient because it was advance that time. Update the mentality by getting rid of stupid issues and hardware/infrastructure/economy will advance automatically.
 
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A nation is like a computer system. There is no point of having latest hardware when you are still using windows 95. It works but efficiency is outdated. It requires latest software updates and hardware proportionately. And to do that remove the bugs and viruses first which have been acting as hurdles. Once it's clean it can be updated and so the hardware automatically.

India's software/mentality is anarchist I wont even call it ancient because it was advance that time. Update the mentality by getting rid of stupid issues and hardware/infrastructure/economy will advance automatically.
first perform, then talk
 

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first perform, then talk
The software doesn't let perform due to glitches. Actually sotware does not want to perform. Most of them don't want to pay taxes by declaring themselves as agriculturist. If strict laws are braught then people only have problem. The mind of Indians know only two things how to be macho in bed and be lethargic which is shadowing the good as well done by 0.1%.
 

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CAB is a much needed step in right direction. We had Nehru-Liaqat pact and Indira-Mujib Pact regarding safety of minorities in these nations. We did not have any such agreement with Afghanistan but under Taliban rule, A very progressive Afghanistan which was more like Warsaw pact country in western outlook, became an islamist ghetto. So we have to do our duty to save these minorities who were part of our population prior to the division of this nation. They were given false assurances of safety and equality by the two countries, Pak & Bangladesh.
 

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CAB is a much needed step in right direction. We had Nehru-Liaqat pact and Indira-Mujib Pact regarding safety of minorities in these nations. We did not have any such agreement with Afghanistan but under Taliban rule, A very progressive Afghanistan which was more like Warsaw pact country in western outlook, became an islamist ghetto. So we have to do our duty to save these minorities who were part of our population prior to the division of this nation. They were given false assurances of safety and equality by the two countries, Pak & Bangladesh.
It seems that Pakistan will go through some crisis soon so is Bangladesh (to some lesser count) and this will create refugees and India will only take sikhs hindus christians parsis and jains to later grant them Indian nationality. Hence this is being braught right at the point of event horizon.
 

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It seems that Pakistan will go through some crisis soon so is Bangladesh (to some lesser count) and this will create refugees and India will only take sikhs hindus christians parsis and jains to later grant them Indian nationality. Hence this is being braught right at the point of event horizon.
This is also to ensure that any muslim who has already come from these countries can stay on after converting to Hinduism or one of the minorities stated in the bill.
 
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This is also to ensure that any muslim who has already come from these countries can stay on after converting to Hinduism or one of the minorities stated in the bill.
That is a stupid move. They will only be pretending.
Instead we should use some policy like "They have to join a army in war against Pak, and kill the mullahs, then they can be granted citizenship". Like USA did in Iraq were Iraqi citizens were granted American citizenship if they helped the american army.
But since they are muslims and cunning, even that should not be trusted and just send them to missions with no chances of survival.

This way we also do our own armed services a favour of taking them away from risky missions.
It seems that Pakistan will go through some crisis soon so is Bangladesh (to some lesser count) and this will create refugees and India will only take sikhs hindus christians parsis and jains to later grant them Indian nationality. Hence this is being braught right at the point of event horizon.
Bangladesh Islamists threaten ‘long march to Ayodhya to save Babri Masjid’ – Indian Defence Research Wing
What are the chances for this being a move to destabilize India-Bengladesh relations by ISI??
 

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The software doesn't let perform due to glitches. Actually sotware does not want to perform. Most of them don't want to pay taxes by declaring themselves as agriculturist. If strict laws are braught then people only have problem. The mind of Indians know only two things how to be macho in bed and be lethargic which is shadowing the good as well done by 0.1%.
the biggest bug in the software is the bunch of looneys called BJP and their Bhakt. When we remove you growth will automatically come back and all good things will happen.
 

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It seems that Pakistan will go through some crisis soon so is Bangladesh (to some lesser count) and this will create refugees and India will only take sikhs hindus christians parsis and jains to later grant them Indian nationality. Hence this is being braught right at the point of event horizon.
Christians can be taken back, but not their priests, they are just crooked lowlives.
 

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Christians can be taken back, but not their priests, they are just crooked lowlives.
Neither Christians not their priests are needed here. Particularly the latter given the excellent record the Vatican has in controlling the natural urges of their clergy. If you don't believe me, look at their victims, including one here @Guynextdoor

His disturbance stems from trauma he underwent as a child. That explains his anal expulsion.
Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) Tweeted:
We strongly condemn Indian Lok Sabha citizenship legislation which violates all norms of int human rights law & bilateral agreements with Pak. It is part of the RSS "Hindu Rashtra" design of expansionism propagated by the fascist Modi Govt.
India's lower House passes controversial citizenship bill ( )
 

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No one addressed the core (underlying) stereotype/insult to Muslims (subcontinent in general) in CAB, not one in mainstream media.

What message CAB is giving out is it's futile and pointless to even engage in debate with Islamic nations to protect their minorities. We have accepted its their second nature to prosecute their minorities, dwindling their numbers even further. So we won't even give it a try rather will give citizenship to them.

This is complete opposite to Islamic nations who meddle in our internal affairs and cite Human rights / discrimination etc through local Muslim Orgs. Our institutions are empowered enough (they may delay process though). Point being they go for due process rather than running away.

Irony is that Pakistan is sour on Muslims not given citizenship. IK has no regret in Pakistanis unloading their Pakistaniyat and running away.
 

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Guys... so is the CAB only for refugees who came in before 31 dec 2014 ? Does it not apply to refugees in the future ?
 

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Nupur J Sharma (@UnSubtleDesi) Tweeted:
Ahmadiyyas were at the forefront of creation of Pakistan, an Ahmadiyya Unit fought against India in Kashmir in 1947-48

Those who don’t remember history and condemned to repeat it.

Here is all you need to know Ahmadiyyas were at the forefront of creation of Pakistan, an Ahmadiyya Unit fought against India in Kashmir in 1947-48 - Opindia News ( )
Nupur J Sharma (@UnSubtleDesi) Tweeted:
Ahmadiyyas were at the forefront of creation of Pakistan, an Ahmadiyya Unit fought against India in Kashmir in 1947-48

Those who don’t remember history and condemned to repeat it.

Here is all you need to know Ahmadiyyas were at the forefront of creation of Pakistan, an Ahmadiyya Unit fought against India in Kashmir in 1947-48 - Opindia News ( )
@Falcon

If you recall the discussion we had on the role the Ahmadiyyas played in creating Paxtan.
 

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Neither Christians not their priests are needed here. Particularly the latter given the excellent record the Vatican has in controlling the natural urges of their clergy. If you don't believe me, look at their victims, including one here @Guynextdoor

His disturbance stems from trauma he underwent as a child. That explains his anal expulsion.
Imran Khan (@ImranKhanPTI) Tweeted:
We strongly condemn Indian Lok Sabha citizenship legislation which violates all norms of int human rights law & bilateral agreements with Pak. It is part of the RSS "Hindu Rashtra" design of expansionism propagated by the fascist Modi Govt.
India's lower House passes controversial citizenship bill ( )
even you will vote congress in the next election only. So what are you babbling about?
 

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Guys... so is the CAB only for refugees who came in before 31 dec 2014 ? Does it not apply to refugees in the future ?
CAB prioritises naturalisation for refugees from these three countries and does not forbid muslims from being made a citizen of India. It only provides for giving priority to the minorities from these three countries. It is for this reason it has put a cut off date as we have over two millions hindus from Pak and BD in India living without any rights. Article 14 is not violated in this and article 15 & 21 are applicable to Citizens of India and not to those who are waiting to be citizens of India. All those who are opposing it are idiots and doing it to appease their muslim vote bank.
Many may not know than Adnan Sami and an Indian actress who married a Pakistani guy and thn gave up her Indian citizenship, were granted Indian citizenship recently.